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Pheonix_789
02-26-2006, 09:29 PM
I was wondering if this card can be modded to 16pixel piplelines and if anyone has ever modded this card to 16 pixel pipelines.....

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_specifications.php?gpid=119

http://ai.pricegrabber.com/product_images/13027000-13027999/13027403_640.jpg

Sapphire X800 GTO FireBlade:
Core Code: R480
Core Speed: 400MHz
Vertex Shaders: 6
Rendering (Pixel) Pipelines: 12
Memory Clock: 980MHz DDR3 (Samsung 1.6ns)
DDR Memory Bus: 256 bit

Pheonix_789
02-26-2006, 09:39 PM
oh yeah if not should I just get X1600 XT or the X800 gto 2?

Pheonix_789
02-26-2006, 10:03 PM
Please any advice would be great!!!

dolf
02-26-2006, 10:18 PM
To answer your question I need your fuses. How to obtain them read here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367

But obviously you haven't got it but need advice :confused:. In that case somebody who have it should say.

Pheonix_789
02-26-2006, 10:23 PM
um well does anyone have this card unlocked to 16 pipelines!? Is it at all possible?:confused:

Pheonix_789
02-26-2006, 11:44 PM
Well I dont care about unlocking any more pipelines Iam just going to buy this card it looks like a pretty decent card and has a way better cooler than the rest of the GTO series cards! and as a bonus it is way cheaper than the 6800 GS and seems to have higher clocks when this card gets overclocked!:p :p :p

gygabite
02-27-2006, 08:06 AM
No,its not a really good card.My friend has one, it cant be unlocked, the fan is loud,even in 2D, only overclocking is good on this card(when the fan turns on 100%).The clocks are 400/490.

Pheonix_789
02-27-2006, 08:42 AM
No,its not a really good card.My friend has one, it cant be unlocked, the fan is loud,even in 2D, only overclocking is good on this card(when the fan turns on 100%).The clocks are 400/490.


:D well you can easily adjust the fan speed when you over clock!:D

micron
02-27-2006, 10:50 AM
No,its not a really good card.
That's complete B.S.

There's been people on these boards, who have knocked down some big 3dmark scores with that card. The memory on it is insanely fast(faster than any other GTO) and the big cooler lets the core clock up really high.

It's only downfall is that it doesnt unlock.

spectre440
02-27-2006, 10:57 AM
if you're looking for an AGP card and you want it to have SM3.0 support, you should seriously consider getting yourself a 6800GS.

pretty much same price range as the x1600's for AGP, only it outperforms the living heck out of them.

and some variants (like the BFG and the XFX ones) have a pretty good chance of unlocking the extra quad and vertex unit. esentially giving you a 6800GT.

all of that, of course, if you're looking for an AGP card.
and even if you're looking for a PCI-E card, the 6800GS is still damn good value for money (IMO), even though it has no chances of unlocking anything, since its based on a different core.

micron
02-27-2006, 12:06 PM
Regardless of the reports coming into the forums, that all AGP 6800GS's successfully unlock, I'm going to state right now, that most of them dont.

Not without artifacts.

There's so many post's on the web proclaiming "my 6800GS unlocked!!"......it's decieving. Everyone wants something special, and not everybody is honest about the things they achieve.

I would put an overclocked 12pp Fireblade GTO up against a 12pp overclocked 6800GS any day of the week in benchmark comparisons.

amiiam
02-27-2006, 01:39 PM
ive just unlocked all 16 pipelines on my fireblade
(it has r430 chip)

Kasparz
02-27-2006, 02:11 PM
Fireblade R480 cant be unlocked. I flashed x850xtpe bios, and still 12p. With mild Vmod and stock cooler card scores 6.6k in 05'. Hope to get 7k.

micron
02-27-2006, 02:28 PM
ive just unlocked all 16 pipelines on my fireblade
(it has r430 chip)
I dont think it's possible, but I'd love to learn something new today.

amiiam
02-27-2006, 03:50 PM
its possible
last fireblades come with the same core as blue gto-2 and they are unlockable

micron
02-27-2006, 03:59 PM
its possible
last fireblades come with the same core as blue gto-2 and they are unlockable
The Fireblades dont unlock.

Just because your card has a core that was originally intended for 16 pipes, doesnt mean your card will unlock. My card has the best core you could hope for, and it doesnt unlock at all(never tried, others have)

If your telling me that you have an unlocked Fireblade card, I'm calling shens until you show otherwise.

Please post a 3DMark05 link.

Kasparz
02-27-2006, 04:17 PM
If some1 can read in .ru, then http://overclockers.ru/lab/20658.shtml

micron
02-27-2006, 04:27 PM
If some1 can read in .ru, then http://overclockers.ru/lab/20658.shtml
Post a link to your 3dmark score.

amiiam
02-27-2006, 04:33 PM
I dont care if you dont believe me.
Guys from this forum even didnt believe that gto2 with r430 exists (lol).
As i said fireblades with r480 core cant be unlocked, but with r430 can[atleast some of them - that ones that have F's on right places in AtiTool; however all fireblades ive seen with 430 core were unlockable (3 cards so far)].
After flashing x800xl bios atitraytools says that i have x800xl.
Memory clock rised to 500.
Strange, but card also became hotter - around +5 degrees at max load. (near 65 degrees for me)
I was asked if fireblade can be unlocked - i answered.

micron
02-27-2006, 04:52 PM
I dont care if you dont believe me.
Guys from this forum even didnt believe that gto2 with r430 exists (lol).
As i said fireblades with r480 core cant be unlocked, but with r430 can[atleast some of them - that ones that have F's on right places in AtiTool; however all fireblades ive seen with 430 core were unlockable (3 cards so far)].
After flashing x800xl bios atitraytools says that i have x800xl.
Memory clock rised to 500.
Strange, but card also became hotter - around +5 degrees at max load. (near 65 degrees for me)
I was asked if fireblade can be unlocked - i answered.
I wish people like you wouldnt post here.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.

amiiam
02-27-2006, 05:20 PM
you made me laugh :D
thank you for that.

yogurt_21
02-27-2006, 05:38 PM
all gto's I've seen with r430 cores unlock regardless of what type (regular gto, fireblade, ultimate, gto2) they're simply x800xl's at a cheaper price and they don't oc very well which makes them kinda a toss up seing as most fireblades do come with the r480 core and can't be unlocked to 16 pipes, they will however reach 600/600 on stock cooling making them a cheaper x850pro. red pcb gto2's were the steal when you could get one for a decent price they were essentially x850xt's in disguise.
however since the boom, the x850xt's prices have dropped sooo.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102505
200$ retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102646
180$ after mail in rebate which you have to wait for so essentially 200$ now and you get 20$ back 6 weeks later and still have to flash the card and overclock it not to mention the cooler is worse than the x850's stock cooler.
thus right now the gto2 is a waste get the regular x850xt and overclock it lol.

Polaris573
02-27-2006, 05:47 PM
Aiiam I'm interested in how you unlocked your R430, even if nobody else is. Could you please explain?

micron
02-27-2006, 05:51 PM
all gto's I've seen with r430 cores unlock regardless of what type (regular gto, fireblade, ultimate, gto2)
So.....your trying to tell me that you've seen Fireblades and Ultimates that unlock?

yogurt_21
02-27-2006, 06:10 PM
lol don't you know anything about the core change?
there have been recnt models that come with the r430 core clocked at 400/490 that when flashed with an x800xl bios will unlock as that's what they are. it's a way of sapphire to get rid of all the x800xl overstock. likewise should you come across a gto2 with a blue pcb it'll be an r430 core that will unlock to 16 pipes.
so when buying make sure you check under the hsf upon arrival to confirm which core you have as ati tool won't read it correctly.

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/forums/showthread.php?t=1814&page=1

theres been much discussion on this at the sapphire forums where the topic has been covered in great length. if you've an r430 core you're pretty much guaranteed 16 pipes, however good luck getting the core over 450MHZ
if you've an r480 core you're pretty much guaranteed 600/600 howeevr it may or may not be flashable. the red pcb gto2's are, many other aren't.

Kasparz
02-27-2006, 06:10 PM
I dont care if you dont believe me.
Guys from this forum even didnt believe that gto2 with r430 exists (lol).
As i said fireblades with r480 core cant be unlocked, but with r430 can[atleast some of them - that ones that have F's on right places in AtiTool; however all fireblades ive seen with 430 core were unlockable (3 cards so far)].
After flashing x800xl bios atitraytools says that i have x800xl.
Memory clock rised to 500.
Strange, but card also became hotter - around +5 degrees at max load. (near 65 degrees for me)
I was asked if fireblade can be unlocked - i answered.
Yes, gto2 with R430 exist. http://www.overclockers.ru/hardnews/21454.shtml
Offcourse more pixel shaders make core hotter. But gto with r480 are better deal than r430 because r480 core will be excellent clocker.

micron
02-27-2006, 06:22 PM
lol don't you know anything about the core change?

You didnt answer my question.

We were originally discussing if Fireblade GTO's unlock or not.

I'm stating they dont.

You came into the discussion and said "any R430 core card will unlock".

I asked you if you knew anyone with a Fireblade or Ultimate GTO that had successfully unlocked their card.

Instead of answering me, you simply talked about a bunch of stuff that has no hinderance to the topic.

Do you know what the topic is?......can you stay on it please?

Kasparz
02-27-2006, 06:32 PM
Post a link to your 3dmark score.
http://bildez.lv/bildes/kasparz/r480/orig/1137796546.jpg
Thats stock cooler, and mooded x850xtpe bios on gto fireblade.
But some1 remember x800gt unlocking on core?
Maybe on gto's r430 is the same trick?
P.S Yes its my score.

micron
02-27-2006, 06:39 PM
Please post a link to your 3dmark score.

amiiam
02-27-2006, 06:41 PM
So.....your trying to tell me that you've seen Fireblades and Ultimates that unlock

micron
Sorry for my rudeness, but are you stupid ?
I HAVE FIREBLADE UNLOCKED TO 16 PIPES.
How did i do it ?
I used modified flashrom and x800xl bios.
And i know 2 guys with fireblade also 16 pipes unlocked.
However dont know anyone having ultimate even with r430, not saying about 16 pipes.

micron
02-27-2006, 06:46 PM
You're full of it.......but if lieing makes you feel special.....

amiiam
02-27-2006, 07:07 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Polaris573
02-27-2006, 10:43 PM
Where did you get the modified flashrom or how did you modify it?

Why do all of you automatically believe him to be lying? Do you know everything? Just because you've never seen an R430 unlock does not mean you should dismiss it immediately. Perhaps he got lucky? I would hold off on the insults and rudeness unless you're 100% sure he's lying. Even if he is, calling him names does not solve anything. If you're really upset over this try to disprove or prove what he saying instead of wasting your time, and everybody elses with childish comments. If you don't have anything usefull or constructive to say I implore you not to say it.

gygabite
02-27-2006, 10:57 PM
Where did you get the modified flashrom or how did you modify it?

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100

micron
02-27-2006, 11:32 PM
Where did you get the modified flashrom or how did you modify it?

Why do all of you automatically believe him to be lying? Do you know everything? Just because you've never seen an R430 unlock does not mean you should dismiss it immediately. Perhaps he got lucky? I would hold off on the insults and rudeness unless you're 100% sure he's lying. Even if he is, calling him names does not solve anything. If you're really upset over this try to disprove or prove what he saying instead of wasting your time, and everybody elses with childish comments. If you don't have anything usefull or constructive to say I implore you not to say it.
Who is calling who names?

Polaris573
02-27-2006, 11:37 PM
You're full of it.......but if lieing makes you feel special.....

I wish people like you wouldnt post here.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.


Sorry for my rudeness, but are you stupid ?


*Sigh* now you've made me create a worthless post too. :rolleyes:

spectre440
02-28-2006, 10:48 AM
Regardless of the reports coming into the forums, that all AGP 6800GS's successfully unlock, I'm going to state right now, that most of them dont.

Not without artifacts.


sorry to interupt the flame fest, but i just wanted to comment on that:

i never said that all of them unlock, i also never said that most of them unlock, i merley said that some of them have a better chance of unlocking than others. like the BFG ones (which seem of have the highest success rate of about 60% from what i have seen) and the XFX or eVGA ones (which also seem to have a pretty decent success rate of about 40-50%).
and there are some variants of it that dont unlock at all, like the powercolor one.

dolf
02-28-2006, 12:22 PM
I will also afford to comment that. The R480 are almost over and it is normal (for all ATI partners) to porduce more and more R430 cards with 16 working pipes. It will last for short time until they finish the available cores/boards.

For those of you which don't believe that unlockable R430's exist will recommend to see the fuse thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367

jamesmack
03-22-2006, 09:24 PM
for any one intrested in ulocking the 4 extra pipes on the SAPPHIRE X800 GTO FIREBLADE with R480 core go to the page below and read pages 131 -132.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367&page=131

hout17
03-30-2006, 03:04 AM
This card has gotten all sorts of publicity from many different pc magazines. All you have to do is flash the bios with a file available from techpowerup.com and this will unlock all 16 pipelines practically giving you an x850 xt. I would definitely get the x800 gto fireblade it's your best value and performance.




I was wondering if this card can be modded to 16pixel piplelines and if anyone has ever modded this card to 16 pixel pipelines.....

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_specifications.php?gpid=119

http://ai.pricegrabber.com/product_images/13027000-13027999/13027403_640.jpg

Sapphire X800 GTO FireBlade:
Core Code: R480
Core Speed: 400MHz
Vertex Shaders: 6
Rendering (Pixel) Pipelines: 12
Memory Clock: 980MHz DDR3 (Samsung 1.6ns)
DDR Memory Bus: 256 bit

AntiKris
03-30-2007, 10:53 PM
for any one intrested in ulocking the 4 extra pipes on the SAPPHIRE X800 GTO FIREBLADE with R480 core go to the page below and read pages 131 -132.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367&page=131

Of course, there are only 118 pages!

erocker
03-30-2007, 11:20 PM
I wish people like you wouldnt post here.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.

Um.. He is right. I have a unlocke r430 core. You have no idea what you are talking about.

erocker
03-30-2007, 11:23 PM
You're full of it.......but if lieing makes you feel special.....

Learn to S-P-E-L-L.

Formula350
03-31-2007, 01:00 PM
Learn to S-P-E-L-L.

So he miss spelt lying, you didn't do all that well in your previous post lol

Um.. He is right. I have a unlocke r430 core. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Should be 'an unlocked'. Just since we're correcting people and all.

And yes, 'spelt' is a word. It's an uncommonly used past tense/past participle version of spell, same meaning as spelled.

GTO AGP with R430 cores seem to unlock pretty well. Normal GTO's have problems. Some can Unlock, and overclock better, but are stuck with 12pp. GTO2's are the ones that unlock to XTPE's no prob. From what I recall, Sapphire basically offered a BIOS to do it and put a semi-guarantee on it heh.

Just get a 1950 Pro 512mb AGP, you'll be happy as heck.