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W1zzard
10-14-2004, 12:04 PM
[PAGE=Introduction, Packaging]
Introduction

Founded in 1981, Logitech has been one of the mouse pioneers and has always been pushing new technologies to the market. For example in 1984, the first cordless mouse, which used infrared technology. In 1991 the first radio cordless mouse. USB - optical - dual optical, and today laser.

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<th align="center">Weight:</th>
<td align="center">7 ounces / 200 g</td>
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<th align="center">Image Processing:</th>
<td align="center">CCD 30x30 Pixels, processing rate: 5.8 megapixels per second</td>
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<th align="center">Resolution:</th>
<td align="center">800 DPI</td>
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<th align="center">Cordless Connection:</th>
<td align="center">Fast RF 27 MHz</td>
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<th align="center">Laser:</th>
<td align="center">Class 1. 832-852nm (infrared)</td>
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<th align="center">Battery:</th>
<td align="center">Lithium Ion. Full charge good for ~20 days of use.</td>
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Packaging

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Box contents:

Mouse
Docking station which is also the RF receiver
USB to PS2 adapter
Instruction manual & driver CD
AC power adapter for docking station


[PAGE=Docking station & AC adapter]
Docking station
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After work you put the mouse in the docking station to recharge it. The docking station is both RF receiver and recharging station at the same time. It is connected to your computer's USB port to transmit the mouse signals and the AC adapter to recharge the mouse batteries. The AC adapter is not required for operation of the mouse.

What I find very nice is that the mouse comes charged out of the box. No need to wait for your new toy to be charged.

The button in the middle of the Docking station is a reset button. This made me worry a bit, but during all testing I experienced not a single crash/hang or similar.
AC adapter

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Nothing special here. Just a standard AC adapter with a 100-240V input range which should make it compatible with every power plug in the world.
[PAGE=The Mouse]
The Mouse

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The MX1000 is the first Logitech mouse to have a battery readout. The three LEDs show the current battery state. When fully charged, the mouse is good for about 20 days of work. 10 minutes of charging give the mouse power for a full day. Charging from completely empty to full takes about 3-4 hours. The mouse uses a Lithium-Ion battery which does not suffer from the dreaded memory effect.

Memory effect is a common problem with Nickel-Cadmium- (NiCd) and Metal-Hydrid (MeH) batteries. If a battery is not completely drained before recharging, it "remembers" the charge it had before the recharging started. This remaining charge is no longer available for use. Over time this can lead to a total usable battery capacity of zero.

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When running low on power, the last LED on the mouse turns from green to red and a little icon in the system notification area starts to blink. This happened after about three days of intensive use with the mouse never charged, just what charge it had out of the box. After another five hours with power warning and red LED the battery was completely empty.

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Instead of using an LED like traditional optical mice, Logitech has chosen to use a laser, the beam is infrared, that is why it is not visible. Logitech has also taken great care to ensure the laser is absolutely harmless:
The Class 1 laser used in the MX1000 is extremely low-powered and can be stared directly into, even with a magnifying glass, for extended periods without causing any eye damage.

On above picture you can also see the On/Off switch and the reset button. When not using the mouse for extended periods of time or when travelling, Logitech recommends turning the mouse off to keep battery consumption at a minimum. During all testing I never had to reset the mouse, so the reset button is probably there as a safeguard.

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The mousewheel allows you to scroll up/down and left/right. Additionally to that, the mouse two buttons located in front and behind of the mouse wheel which are used for fast scrolling through documents.

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The forward/back buttons are conveniently located, however I wonder why you have to move the thumb to press them. I would have preferred it if the buttons were on the same height as the thumb rest. The button in the middle is used to switch between programs by default. I changed it to close window.

A cordless mouse can be stolen very easily - especially if you got to Lan parties a lot :) It would have been nice if Logitech added a little hole or something where you can chain your mouse to when leaving the PC on a LAN.
[PAGE=Software]
Logitech's mouse software is called SetPoint and is a hefty 15.7 MB download. It's also included on the CD.

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On the first page you can customize the mouse buttons by selecting an action from a predefined list. "Keystroke Assignment" lets you put a key combination on a button. It would have been nice if you could bind macros ie. series of keystrokes. Also it is not possible to assign the tilt left/right of the mouse wheel. Another nice feature would be if you could select which mouse button will be pressed when "generic" is chosen.

When selecting "Other" in the buttons screen you get an additional selection:
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On the second page you can control various aspects of your mouse pointer movement. This is all pretty similar to what Windows offers in its own mouse settings.
"Smart Move" is the same as Windows' "Automatically move pointer to the default button in a dialog box".
What I find important to note is that the "Pointer Speed" option value is added to the Window's setting. So when you have Window's setting set to maximum, you can increase the pointer speed even more by changing the option here.

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The battery display is pretty useless. The mouse has the LEDs.
"If you need help changing the batteries.." - I didn't know I could change the batteries on the MX1000 ;)

[PAGE=Performance]
Performance

First of all: Set your Forward/Back buttons to "Other" - "Generic Button" if you want them working in all applications. I had lots of problems with Forward/Back in Microsoft Visual Studio and related products. I almost considered going back to my old mouse until I found this fix.

I played a lot of World of Warcraft recently. What I noticed there, is that the battery is drained a lot faster compared to normal office use. This is probably caused by the constant holding of one button (you hold a mouse button to rotate view or change running direction). In this scenario the battery lasted only a few days.
After being stuck in a dungeon without any mouse control, I connected my old IntelliMouse Explorer as backup mouse. The quick recharge rate allows you to charge to half an hour of use from completely empty in just a few minutes (cigarette break).

Following image from Logitech PR illustrates how much of a difference the laser makes compared to a conventional LED:
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Please note that the CCD sensor in the MX1000 is the same as in the MX510. It has a resolution of 30x30 pixels and a "processing" rate of 5.8 MPixels/second. 5,800,000 / (30 * 30) = 6444 images captured and processed per second. Not bad. The MX300/500/700 samples 5250 images/second.
The movement information is broken down into a stream of 125 packets/second to the host pc. Typical cordless mice run at 60 packets/second or less.

I can only confirm this. The mouse is very precise and the pointer is moving REALLY fast.

The RF radio range is just awesome. I could move the mouse pointer with full accuracy even when I was over five meters away, through a concrete wall.

UPDATE: On Feb. 6, the mouse battery readout was "stuck" at the 1 green LED on setting. I recharged it overnight and it stayed at this setting. A reset of both the docking station and the mouse fixed this.

[PAGE=Value & Conclusion]
Value and Conclusion

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The Logitech MX1000 is going for $69 which I find expensive. The price will sure drop considerably over time.</td>
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First laser mouse
Awesome precision
Cordless
Li-Ion battery
Lots of buttons
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Expensive
Software problems
Bumpy plastic remains from production at thumb rest
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<td>If you have the money and want to have the latest and greatest, the Logitech MX1000 is the mouse of your choice. If you already own a solid optical mouse the added benefits are not worth the purchase in my opinion.</td></tr>
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Unregistered
01-17-2005, 11:53 PM
Something you didn't mention, as you may have not experienced it, is a really bad bug the MX1000 has. From what I have seen, it seems like there was one bad batch of MX-1000s on the line that got into public and there are a lot of reports of the same problem.

The problem that I speak of is that when you use the mouse, it can randomly jump around, as if there is a hair under the mouse, or a bad surface or something. Additionally sometimes the mouse will think you clicked buttons which you did not. You can just be moving the mouse around and then suddenly one or more of the buttons will activate.

If you search google for problems with the MX-1000 you will find lots of similar stories.

Unregistered
01-24-2005, 01:48 AM
I bought one of the first mx 1000 and i had the same issue. easy fix replace with a new one at circuit city.

Unregistered
02-07-2005, 12:19 PM
I originally bought an mx700 which I had to send back
because it just didn't work for some reason.
After that I got sent an mx1000 which I have to say
I'm very happy with. So far everything has worked
just excellently and the presicion is just wonderful.
I love this mouse even though it was a tad expensive.

Unregistered
02-10-2005, 04:47 PM
hmm yeah well i love this mouse as well but i must say that i have to get used to it when i am playing counterstrike source.....

any others have the same problem?

Unregistered
02-13-2005, 10:45 PM
Excellent performance and feel. But here was the thing for me: If you install the SetPoint software, all of the buttons will work except for the back/forward buttons unless you're using IE or Netscape. Not Mozilla or Firefox, they aren't supported. If you uninstall the SetPoint software, the back/forward buttons will work with any browser or other app, but none of the other special buttons will work. I took it back and bought a Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth mouse for my laptop. $20.00 less and a much better investment, for me.

~Peace

thumper
02-25-2005, 12:09 PM
just started using mine and wow i upgraded from an older microsfot inteli-explorer 3 and the difference is amazing ive always been one to slag off wireless mice on rumours of them being laggy etc but i take it all bake this is a work of art

riivo
02-26-2005, 10:34 AM
unreplacable battary. that's bad. after 3-4 years it doesn't work for a week and there is nothing you can do about it

Unregistered
03-05-2005, 08:39 AM
"Something you didn't mention, as you may have not experienced it, is a really bad bug the MX1000 has. From what I have seen, it seems like there was one bad batch of MX-1000s on the line that got into public and there are a lot of reports of the same problem.

The problem that I speak of is that when you use the mouse, it can randomly jump around, as if there is a hair under the mouse, or a bad surface or something. Additionally sometimes the mouse will think you clicked buttons which you did not. You can just be moving the mouse around and then suddenly one or more of the buttons will activate.

If you search google for problems with the MX-1000 you will find lots of similar stories."

You can fix that problem if you take the ps/2 adapter and put the mouse to ps/2 port.. then it wount jump aroud anymore.

Unregistered
04-03-2005, 12:58 AM
Using the mouse with the PS/2 adapter to alleviate the bug was not the case with my MX1000. I did exactly the opposite to fix it, I took off the PS/2 adapter and it works perfectly now.

=0C=Cheese-o-rama
04-03-2005, 04:19 AM
I just purchased this mouse, and i have to say that using the USB or the PS/2 hasn't made a difference, this thing bounces around like a 10 year old on crack. Oh, and it has the added "option" of having the mouse buttons get stuck all the damn time.

This mouse is nothing but trouble, stay away.

dubcat
04-04-2005, 08:01 AM
I had the jumping problem. The mouse would consistently jump about 2 inches DOWN the screen (on a 1600x1200 20" screen). This was most annoying when using photoshop or aiming at someones head in counter strike :)

I called logitech and they asked for my serial number etc etc. After a number of questions the lady on the phone told me she would send me a new receiver. I was skeptical and thought I should have a new mouse too but played along. 3 days later I received my new receiver. It fixed the problem. I am really impressed. I did not have to send the bad receiver back either.

If you are suffering from jumping problems ring logitech support. They are REALLY helpful.

Dub

p.s. I am not affiliated to logitech in any way other than the fact that i am a happy customers

Unregistered
04-07-2005, 05:37 PM
Please, do not buy! Skips worst than a optical mouse, I feel cheaped. I trusted Logitech, not anymore.

dubcat
04-07-2005, 10:08 PM
Have you phoned logitech? Did you read my post?

T1Cybernetic
04-10-2005, 08:37 AM
Personaly i have tried one of these for about a week but i couldnt get one with it.

So just the other day i decided to go the hole hog and buy a Razer Diamondback Magma
and also go buy myself a Ideazon Zboard and i have to say that they are the best two
purchases i have made regarding gaming and general typing in a long time, :D.

So based on experience i would not recomend this mouse, it just doesnt "feel right".

Vlada
05-26-2005, 12:30 AM
Hi,
can someone from USA look at the adapter. I need to see the input. My friend is coming to Europe and I want to buy mx1000 on newegg, so I have to know will I be able to use this adapter or I need to buy the new one. I saw wizard's post saying that you can use this adapter everywere in the world, but he is located in Germany, and I need to know, will I get the same adapter in the USA (with the same input of course, they cannot be the same obviously).

Thanks in advance.

Vlada
05-28-2005, 02:57 PM
Nobody? :(

Please its pretty urgent.

Thanks,
Vlada.

Nexus
06-02-2005, 02:01 PM
I just got my MX1000 yesterday and what a sweet mouse it is...except that it jumps around like cracy. Called Logitech and they're gonna send me a new reciever :)

My question is concerned the thumb button. It feels rather lose. So lose that I can move it up and down and actually see it move. At first I really didn't think about it untill I sort of noticed it when surfing and I have now become obsessed with it and con't stop thinking about it :o

Can anyone one of you tell me if my thumb button is one of a kind or it's supposed to be like that :)

geeman74
06-03-2005, 12:14 PM
unreplacable battary. that's bad. after 3-4 years it doesn't work for a week and there is nothing you can do about it

surley after 3-4 years youll have a new mouse!!
they dont last forever

ive had no probs with mine at all had it about 7month all the buttons do what there supposed to
works with all games i play etc

Unregistered
06-22-2005, 12:58 PM
I had the jumping problem. The mouse would consistently jump about 2 inches DOWN the screen (on a 1600x1200 20" screen). This was most annoying when using photoshop or aiming at someones head in counter strike :)

I called logitech and they asked for my serial number etc etc. After a number of questions the lady on the phone told me she would send me a new receiver. I was skeptical and thought I should have a new mouse too but played along. 3 days later I received my new receiver. It fixed the problem. I am really impressed. I did not have to send the bad receiver back either.

If you are suffering from jumping problems ring logitech support. They are REALLY helpful.

Dub

p.s. I am not affiliated to logitech in any way other than the fact that i am a happy customers
i read logitech faq...and there is like this
Q: My MX1000 cursor sometimes jumps to the top of the screen or acts erratic at times. What should I do?
A: Download and install SetPoint 2.14 or above to resolve this issue. You may install the new version over your current version.

Unregistered
07-29-2005, 01:53 PM
For some reason my MX won't recharge... It's only a moonth old... any ideas?

W1zzard
07-30-2005, 09:50 AM
hit the reset button? does the charging indicator move?

Unregistered
08-11-2005, 07:51 PM
Hi Just got my mx1000 today after a great years use with the mx700/duo...(+ wireless keyboard). Does anyone know if the mx1000 mouse will work ok with the mx700/Duo docking station? At the moment the mx1000 is being charged via the mx700's docking station and the mouse does seem to work ok but still havent put it through its paces. Or do you think it may lessen any of the mx1000's features ? Hope not because if it does work i can carry on using the wireless keyboard with it and sell the mx700 mouse and the other dock unit!
Appreciate any help!

AMDCam
08-13-2005, 07:36 AM
Hey, I've never used wireless peripherals but can you tell me how you like the MX1000? I'm deciding between a Razer and yours. You have the upper hand with optical sensor (20x optical), technology, wireless, and buttons, but the razer has a higher resolution, good optical sensor (4x), and looks good. I mean for gaming, because right now I have a Microsoft 3 button intellimouse optical, and I've used these for years. I hate 5-button mouses, they're too easy to hit and are really not that useful, so I keep it simple. What do you think would be a better upgrade for someone like me? Thank you, and sorry I can't help you with charging or compatibility with older stuff

na3d
09-19-2005, 08:41 AM
well, maybe all yours "jumpin' problems" are caused because u placed the reciver near some electrical device(monitor, tv, hi-fi, etc.)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Move the reciver away then try again until u got no more "Jumpin' "

thedivinehairband
09-21-2005, 01:21 PM
I love this mouse. Had other optical mice before and wireless ones and had loads of trouble (Microsoft wireless desktop v2.1, DON@T BUY!!!!). Got this and found it great. Had tried using my mates Razer and just couldnt get along with it. You will find me with this mouse fragging away on UT2004 every now and then.

Unregistered
10-10-2005, 04:51 AM
Did anyone fail to notice that this review was stolen from somone else and new pics were added?

I would think this would cause concern for the at least the guy who actually did hard work and reviewed this product, which i plan on buying very very soon

AMDCam
10-10-2005, 06:06 AM
Yeah dude, I'm pretty sure he didn't claim it as his own review. Maybe logitech is paying Techpowerup, but don't accuse him of stealing.