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The 360 has a modded X1900, thats why.

I thought it had a modified 2900 series gpu, kinda like the beta for the r600's but with much less power since is has half the rops and less shaders than a pro

but its still better than 2900gt, i still don't see how the GT flopped so bad, i mean it was slow but the specs were so close to the pro.
 
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off subject and in a scruffy voice: DREBIN!!!

No it was on topic, if someone says games cost more on the PS3 because of the Blu-Ray format that is completely illogical. Xbox DVD games cost the same amount.

Games cost more on consoles because the platforms demand more royalties (than say PC "Games for Windows") from publishers to put their games on the console.

Actually the royalties are so high that a guy like Gamestop or BestBuy makes maybe 1-5$ ( 1$ on most games sold at Best Buy) off of a game because its hard to make a profit on a game on consoles because they are so big budget, and platforms want royalties. Why do you think used games at Gamestop are so lucrative, because they can actually make a profit off of those games.

EDIT:

AHH I understand what you were saying now sir. My bad, still, I made my point...
 
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A consol will usualy be alot faster and have greater IQ than a pc for the first year or 2. Its only role is to play games and nothing else. When you make a game, you dont need to make 30 different options and stuff, cause you know what hardware your programming for. that way you can use slower hardware, but still run things smoothly and most of the time, with a better iq than you get on pc.
Just look at the specs for the xbox360

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip)

That hardware is in theory, slower than highend stuff we got today for computers, BUT! its way faster when everything is optimized for it. And thats only the xbox360.
 

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Really I would say that all three can come close to eachother, but the PC can win by virtue of modifacations and upgrades. If the Xbox360's and PS3's had some sort of modular setup where the GPU module could be replaced in a way the HDD's are on the Xbox, that would definately help.

Granted for the specs those consoles have they do a good job of cranking out some fine visuals at some good resolutions. Really it just depends on what your preference is...the XBox360 33% failure mess still has me dissapointed, considering every friend I know that has a 360 is on at least their 3rd, which beats the 1-in-3 reported by MS, still a great console, and the newer ones with the lower fab and better cooling is definately a plus. MS did a lot of things right with that console, and it shows for the most part. The PS3 seems like they decided to rush it too fast because the MS machine was able to crank out such an accomplished unit where-as Sony was trying to make an overcomplicated machine to do the same things..not saying it's a bad idea as I dig the PS3, I've played on one quite a bit and do enjoy the Playstation controller much more than any xbox controller, just been used to it since the original PS.

Though with as fast as things change and have to be replaced now-a-days I hope they will continue the stronger pc-based trend on consoles, it's worked out well, but I still think a modular GPU would be a good idea...could be encased like an old NES game, with a couple of fans on it, and a PCI-e slot on one end...two screws, voila, more video powa! Which is what consoles have and will always lack after a very short period of time. Both consoles were based on aging gpus when they were released...sure their platforms and the game designs help a to extract much more out of them in a more efficient way than their PC bretheren, eventually that's not good enough.

Long ago I decided PC's were going to by my main front...I like having control of some situations, the setup. I do miss the console stability (well with the older PS2 and Xbox stuff I used to do), and some PC ports are just worthless, so I know I miss out on some great games...but this also works vice-versa with consoles. Plus with the modularity of a PC and it's continual upgrade cycle, can help strongly in IQ and sound, but at a cost and also depending on support, coding, OS stability, and a lot more things the console guys don't have to worry as much about. It's a give-and-take, I do plan to have a PS3 and 360 eventually, I may wait for the next-gen stuff to come out though...as I'm very content as a PC gamer. To each their own, and nobody is making a wrong choice, as long as you are having a great time with your investment, it's all good!

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Afaik,the xbox uses a custom unified shader ati gpu.And i agree,ps3/xbox360/pc apples/oranges.
 

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if you are a gamer then by all means go with the PC. however i bought the PS3 to play blu-ray and stream HD video/audio and interact with the PSP.
 

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I bought mine for MGS4 :p

It was/wasn't worth it lol, but then my ps2 died so now I have a fancy ps2.
 

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dont tell me that aint nice for a budget rig 397.98 free shipping
 

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In terms of resolution a pc can output a true high definition resolution, Also adding in anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering to get rid of jagged edges and blurryness. While the ps3 only upscales the image which I believe causes a loss in image quality.
 
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im a fanboy because i own a xbox 360 is that it?

i gave the fact look at them anyway you wish, all i know is i never said anything incorrect

in answer to the original question dont get a PS3 you dont even own a tv sell it spend the cash else where
 
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dont tell me that aint nice for a budget rig 397.98 free shipping

what has this in common with a comparison between ps3 an pc? :banghead:

by the way, yea its good but i think u may get a 320gb wd for that price
 
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ps3 generaly has the worst quality, disks are more expensive to make for ps3 since they are blu ray

erm most ps3 games are shoddy ports of xbox 360 games so the coding could just be worse

the pc has better visuals because you have the choice of which hardware to use but the ps3 is just stuck with what its got so people have to get more efficient at coding for the ps3 in order to squeeze more out of it

True True.
The PS3 was a sloppy console. Not designed to be flexible. Planning was zilch on it. Ever compared the Xbox360 quality to the PS3? Xbox360 wins everytime. ;-)

Both wrong, the you can't simply port any games onto the PS3 because the CBE handles algorithms completely differently than any other CPU on the market. This is a CPU designed for huge web servers and applications that NASA uses (not actually nasa, but the equivalent of cpu usage) Why they decided it was the correct choice for a gaming console is something that I can not understand nor explain.
Every game has to be practically re-coded or emulated on a PS3 which makes it that much harder for game devs.
This is the reason for the system being shoddy.

As for which is better PC is the winner hands down. I would much rather play a game on my rig in my specs than on my PS3.

Edit: Read more!

For the cost PS3 wins.
If you want a pc that can do the same it will cost you more. Period!

Not true.
salvage a case. - free
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By my math that leaves me with just over $166 for a gfx card.
You could get this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143137
Or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161235

System beats a PS3 at stock and would derail the PS3 overclocked... with money left over.
 
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I like and have both.

Certain games are better on each platform, like TF2 is way better to me on the PC. While i prefer most GTA style and God of War kind of games on Consoles. They both own.:)

As for Quality, it just depends on the titles that come out, graphics vary as i have seen games on Consoles look better then PC titles, in which most people think it doesn't happen.
 
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The Dreamcast is the only real console, the ps3 is an impostor.
 
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The Dreamcast is the only real console, the ps3 is an impostor.

its a beast and it can do HD, well its not HD as we know it but it had a connector for higher resolutions

the official pads tho where terrible to hold plus no dual analogue made it hard in FPS

good looking console tho, if only sega hadnt brought out the 32x and sega cd and hadnt made the saturn difficult to program for people would still be buyin your consoles
 
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aaahhhhi luved the dreamcast, graphics on it were so much better than PS1 and n64, it was almost or as good as PS2 graphics only it came out much earlier, shame not too many popular games were released for it :shadedshu
 
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Seems noone adds the $100 blue ray player. Ability to network with you pc to watch downloaded movies. Homebrew for linux.
 
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im a fanboy because i own a xbox 360 is that it?

i gave the fact look at them anyway you wish, all i know is i never said anything incorrect

in answer to the original question dont get a PS3 you dont even own a tv sell it spend the cash else where

This is the original post:

i just wanna know, in terms of quality(sound/video//physics/latencies) of games in pc and ps3, which one is better?
and also, why are some games on ps3 more expensive than on pc? like bioshock

Where do you answer the original post?

Here's an answer w/out fanboyisms.

PC games have $10 less on them retail by default. This is because the demand is not as high for PC games. The PC will do better now and in the long run. People like Shadowfold/Ozzy know how to get the goal of a gaming PC done for less.
 
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let's look at some hard facts: the consoles cost less but the games are expensive. ultra-high PCs cost more but their games cost less. PCs games have DRM which makes it impossible to sell your games on once you've bought them. Console games can be sold second-hand/pre-owned. PCs have higher than HD resolutions. Consoles use upscalers. Most PC games can be modded by their own communities to add extra levels, total conversions and sometimes patches add things in conjunction to fixing previous things. Consoles games only get paltry downloadable content which may require fees. PCs have the better online community for multiplayer congregation. Consoles get shouty teens being abusive on their online portion (generalisation, i know) and finally, IMO, mouse and keyboard >>>> analogue controller any time
 
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let's look at some hard facts: the consoles cost less but the games are expensive. ultra-high PCs cost more but their games cost less. PCs games have DRM which makes it impossible to sell your games on once you've bought them. Console games can be sold second-hand/pre-owned. PCs have higher than HD resolutions. Consoles use upscalers. Most PC games can be modded by their own communities to add extra levels, total conversions and sometimes patches add things in conjunction to fixing previous things. Consoles games only get paltry downloadable content which may require fees. PCs have the better online community for multiplayer congregation. Consoles get shouty teens being abusive on their online portion (generalisation, i know) and finally, IMO, mouse and keyboard >>>> analogue controller any time

DRM is not on all games, however it is the vast majority.
Madclown, your Dreamcast comment has caused me to decide that you are AWESOME, anyway to adress the topic:
PS3/ Wii and Xbox360 all run on DX9 graphics which limits certain graphical features, however you can get round this is you know what you're doing (I've seen HL2 on very high settings, to be quite honest I'm damn impressed with it, I don't care it's a pretty old game running on dx9, I've not have the privelege of DX10 yet, however next weekend I'll post my opinions on that.
Sound:
PCs can get higher quality sound cards than are available on the PS3, then combine this with the ability to add a high quality headset (for gaming purposes Headsets beat speakers IMO)
Yes, I do own a PS3, I used to be an xbox fanboy (the original one, not that peice of rubbish MS dirtied the name with.) but that was mainly due to all my friends owning 360s, I've also not played on the PS3 yet since I'm getting it for christmas so this is just stuff I've read in tech articles etc.
The only reason I'm getting the PS3 for christmas is because my dad wants a Blu-Ray Player, otherwise I'd have stuck with a PC.
Someone told me you can install mods on the PS3, however you won't be able to get anything like the range of mods you can on the PC simply due to people being more familiar with Modding on the PC.
 

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i think another advantage for console is that, u can have more people playing, i like to invite friends over to play ps3,

so generally is that pc generally have better quality?
im think a reason that not many people have thought before, since ps3 uses a cell processor, maybe its harder for the programers to make games, so they r charging more for it?
 

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Video Card(s) RX 7800xt|RX 6700xt |On-Board|On-Board|8 RDNA 2 CUs
Storage 2TB m.2|512GB SSD+1TB SSD|2x256GBSSD 2x2TBGB|256GB sata|512GB nvme
Display(s) 50" 4k TV | Dell 27" |22" |3.3"|7"
VR HMD Samsung Odyssey+ | Oculus Quest 2
Software Windows 11 Pro|Windows 10 Pro|Windows 10 Home| Server 2012 r2|Windows 10 Pro
The 360 has a modded X1900, thats why.

That is false. The xbox 360 GPU has unified shader architecture that X1950 does not so it is more similar to 2900XT than to x1950. But still consoles amaze me with quality that are displaying 512 DDR3 memory total memory for CPU and GPU. And we are using 4 GB + GPU memory.
 
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