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Fyi - a £700 machine doesnt exactly run crysis very well at all.

w/out the monitor, i could max out crysis on very high and get 30+ FPS with that money.
 

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some of us can't whip out a new upgrade every 6 months, or for that matter every year...

In the Ops case - 10-11years not including his x2400. PIII's came out early/late 1997/98 - I remember that clearly because at the sametime i was learning my 'craft' in high school & also because my dad spent $2883 on a PIII machine the very same year.

Hes more then welcome to tell me to STFU, Im just saying it doesnt take a huge investment to get a rig better his. Im not exactly insulting his mother or anything.


w/out the monitor, i could max out crysis on very high and get 30+ FPS with that money.

'Without' the monitor???? :roll::roll::roll: im sure anyone could do that too lol. but its not gonna be much fun starin at a black box with flashing lights for the next few hours though, unless of course your completely stoned out of your melon......
 
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In the Ops case - 10-11years not including his x2400. PIII's came out early/late 1997/98 - I remember that clearly because at the sametime i was learning my 'craft' in high school & also because my dad spent $2883 on a PIII machine the very same year.

Hes more then welcome to tell me to STFU, Im just saying it doesnt take a huge investment to get a rig better his. Im not exactly insulting his mother or anything.




'Without' the monitor???? :roll::roll::roll: im sure anyone could do that too lol. but its not gonna be much fun starin at a black box with flashing lights for the next few hours though, unless of course your completely stoned out of your melon......

lawl, smartass:laugh: you know what i mean.
 
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Hehe well i'm sure anyone here building a new computer won't need a new monitor ;)
 

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I had a Celeron, now on my £700 pc with quad and 4870X2 I do believe it 'feels a billion times faster' lolquote
but yes, it blew me away for sure.
 
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Still, lucky OP. loads more FPS from simply re-arranging his USB devices...
Yea i finally seen for the first time what bottlenecking is. As i said i guess the external HD when its hook up to the PCI 2.0 card, it puts a serious strain on my computer. So now by just putting the thing in my 1.1 usb slot from my tower, my computer is freeeeeeeeeeeee

I can't explain to you how smooth gameplay is, but its amazing. And i finally see what folks are talking about when playing games at good settings and still maintaining good fps. Alpha Prime for example, the game use to struggle as i said, in the second level when moving it will drop to 4 fps or something. Now i can move around and it will stay at 35fps and then jump up to 40 and never drop below 30 anymore. Its moving so fast, its feels kinda weird playing it haha.

Anyways, i will post some benchmarking from crysis soon, i hope it improves gameplay :) :p

And for everyone else, i am still buying my secondary computer soon, but i am not rush to do it. Every forum i go to now, someone says i need to upgrade, my P3 is a POS. Well my P3 is just fine and i will buy my second computer when i am ready. It really doesn't matter tho, when i do get it, its for my new games only and newer ones. I will have one computer for the old and one for the new. :)
 

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u2konline,

It doesn't take much to please you does it? You're happy that your PC performs like a computer from 6 years ago:laugh:

All those games you mentioned are extremely old so they should play well, bear in mind you are also playing at low resolution (probably low/med detail too)

Seriously spend about £450 and buy a proper gaming rig: (unless old games satisfy you)


Edit:

Crysis ran like shit back when I had my x1600 Pro and 4 GB DDR, I had the same CPU as now though 3800 X2+, so I'm a bit fishy that it runs well for you.


Edit 2:

Sorry if I was harsh, but its the truth. Come back with a budget and we'll help you find a decent upgrade :)
 
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u2konline,

It doesn't take much to please you does it? You're happy that your PC performs like a computer from 6 years ago:laugh:

All those games you mentioned are extremely old so they should play well, bear in mind you are also playing at low resolution (probably low/med detail too)

Seriously spend about £450 and buy a proper gaming rig: (unless old games satisfy you)

hey man give the guy a break
 
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i guess alot of people forget how sweet p3's were. i kept my coppermine p3 till p4's were into prescott. my 3.0 prescott at stock wasnt a whole lot faster faster than my p3 at 2.0. the p3 is dam fine.
 

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Whatever it was, its like the 2400HD and my CPU is being use at its full potential now.
peace

wow ... HD2400 is all but gaming card ... that said , you could try to push it , but i can't be far... (1/2 HD3650 ? )
 

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So surprised that u can actually run some high-end games on a pentium 3 and HD2400. Then how come my Pentium 4 4.9GHz and HD3850 AGP can't run crysis at 800 x 600 all low settings. :D
 

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So surprised that u can actually run some high-end games on a pentium 3 and HD2400. Then how come my Pentium 4 4.9GHz and HD3850 AGP can't run crysis at 800 x 600 all low settings. :D

nutburst...

Mine runs COD4 just fine, specs below lol
 

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So surprised that u can actually run some high-end games on a pentium 3 and HD2400. Then how come my Pentium 4 4.9GHz and HD3850 AGP can't run crysis at 800 x 600 all low settings. :D

My friend had a pentium D at 2.6ghz with a 7300 LE that could run crysis on 800 X 600 at decent frames.
 
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For the person who said i am playing at low resolutions , thats not true. I play none of my games below 1024x768 anymore. I either play at 1024x768 or 1280x1024. About 85% of my games, i play at 1280x1024 now. I already mention before that plays games at 800x600 or lower on either my 6200 or 2400HD it becomes choppy and unstable. Someone did explain why this happens.

Anyways, some Crysis benchmarks. 1280x1024/Shader, Post Processing, Volumetric effects , Physics, and water effects at medium settings, the rest at low.

Looking up at the skies, i never got 18fps looking at the skies before


Cut scene, 9-12fps


1280X1024 AAX2, Same Settings, but Water is on low


Just some random screens

http://www.imagenerd.com/uploads/crysissl6-qDMku.jpg
http://www.imagenerd.com/uploads/dsx-3zXmd.jpg
http://www.imagenerd.com/uploads/sk3-ah7nl.jpg
http://www.imagenerd.com/uploads/dx5-DxLHU.jpg
http://www.imagenerd.com/uploads/sc3-yjY01.jpg

Also saving which use to take 2-3 mins, only takes a few seconds. Overall better performance now. :) The most interesting thing which i like now, i can walk around without the stupid pausing or stutter anymore, i can walk around and it stays above 10fps now. :)

Peace :)
 
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1024X768 isnt low? Hmmm..

For the person who said i am playing at low resolutions , thats not true. I play none of my games below 1024x768 anymore.
 
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So surprised that u can actually run some high-end games on a pentium 3 and HD2400. Then how come my Pentium 4 4.9GHz and HD3850 AGP can't run crysis at 800 x 600 all low settings. :D
REALLY?

1024X768 isnt low? Hmmm..

I thought you was talking about 640x480 or 800x600. Well i understand 1024x768 or maybe 1280x1024 is old school, but its better then 800x600. lol. Most people is using LCD screens now, so i am pretty sure people are playing games way above 1280x1024.
Sorry about that. :)
 

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For the person who said i am playing at low resolutions , thats not true. I play none of my games below 1024x768 anymore. I either play at 1024x768 or 1280x1024. About 85% of my games, i play at 1280x1024 now.

That is low resolution, most of us play at our native resolutions, 1400x900 for 19' screens, 1680x1050 for 20', 1920x1200 for 24' etc. I haven't seen a graphics card review test a game at 1024x768 in over 4 years.


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But I'm not going to hate, Crysis still looks good in those screen shots.

Edit 2:

Ideally you want to aim for a frame rate of above 30 FPS constant. Anything below 25 FPS is considered unplayable.
 
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That is low resolution, most of us play at our native resolutions, 1400x900 for 19' screens, 1680x1050 for 20', 1920x1200 for 24' etc. I haven't seen a graphics card review test a game at 1024x768 in over 4 years.
Yes i am aware. For my secondary computer tho, when i do buy it, i plan to use CRT. I like CRT's better then LCD. What is the highest CRT monitor out there btw. ?

But I'm not going to hate, Crysis still looks good in those screen shots.
Thanks. :) Looks good for my rig thats for sure lol.

Ideally you want to aim for a frame rate of above 30 FPS constant. Anything below 25 FPS is considered unplayable.
I had this sort of discussion over and over again at other forums, :roll:believe me we will not agree. Alot of people have mix views on this. I have no idea how good jericho runs on my computer now(due to not bottlenecking anyone) but when i was playing Jericho, i had the settings at 1024x768 , shader and texture on high and i get between 15-20fps. It never goes over 20 and the game is fast , very fast, not to mention smooth.

I can play a game at 10fps and it wouldn't bother me. You talking about 25 is unplayable , i really disagree on that. Thats perfect in my eyes :) a game moving at 20 with no stuffer or pauses, or anything, you telling me thats unplayable?
 

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Yes i am aware. For my secondary computer tho, when i do buy it, i plan to use CRT. I like CRT's better then LCD. What is the highest CRT monitor out there btw. ?

CRT monitors are hard to find these days, unless you are buying second hand. You'd be hard pressed to find anything less than LCD in shops. LCDs have come a long way the new ones can easily looks just as good as a CRT. When I moved to LCD I noticed right away that my rig was generating less heat and my eyes didn't hurt as much when staring at the screen for long periods of time.


A lot of people have mix views on this. I have no idea how good jericho runs on my computer now (due to not bottlenecking anyone) but when i was playing Jericho, i had the settings at 1024x768 , shader and texture on high and i get between 15-20fps. It never goes over 20 and the game is fast , very fast, not to mention smooth.


Jericho is a single player first persons shooter, the action isn't fast paste so a lot of time time you could be stationary. But if you're playing a fast paste game such as a racing game e.g. GRID where you are constantly moving, the vehicle is giving the impression of travelling 100-200 MPH you'll need a high frame rate. Also if you were playing Call of Duty online and you couldn't turn around and react fast enough due to bad frame rates you'll end up with with a bullet through your head.

COD:WAW runs at 40-80 FPS for me, so if we ever played together I'd have a huge advantage as far as responsiveness is concerned.


I can play a game at 10fps and it wouldn't bother me. You talking about 25 is unplayable , i really disagree on that. Thats perfect in my eyes :) a game moving at 20 with no stuffer or pauses, or anything, you telling me thats unplayable?

10 FPS is unplayable sorry, it's actually a slide show almost. Most hardcore gamers use 60 FPS as their magic number, I'm being logical by saying 25-30FPS is the lowest reasonable frame rate. Films/DVDS run at 25-30FPS and are very watchable.

Film studios use the lowest frame rate (25-30) to save on production cost. About 15 FPS is needed to give the impression that something stationary is moving, so saying 10 FPS is farfetched.


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Exceededgoku, we need a log-in account to view that page

Edit 2:

I think he might be a troll

Take a look at the name "The General", he has the same specification as "u2konline"

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2970045
 
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I think he might be a troll

Take a look at the name "The General", he has the same specification as "u2konline"

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=283360

Post #1 on Guru3D forum
Just started to play a old pc game, call Requiem: Avenging Angel , first time using it with my 2400HD. Works just fine with my 6200, 40-75fps max. So using 8.12 drivers, with my 2400HD, i get well over 180 fps, near 200, i was like DAAAAAAAMN. , but as soon as i turn around and look at everything in front of me, it drops to 1-3fps How does a game go from 180, near 200, then just drop to 1-3 fps, thats ugly



"u2konline" also goes by the name Vega$ on the Futuremarks forum

http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78610


Post #1 on Futuremarks forum
Specs at the bottom of course, running the game at 800x600 , everything set on low expect for pixel shader level which was set at medium and texture Q set at medium. Also i had to install the game on my external HD, so i'm pretty sure i would of got better results and the game would of loaded faster if i would of install it onto my internal HD, but i couldn't because i am about to clean some files out which i don't need.

I also do not have a USB highspeed port , so again the external HD is fast, but not fast enough to handle any games at the correct speed. But hey i was able to run it, so i just prove alot of people wrong on different forums. They said my computer or my 2400 HD Pro card couldn't handle it, well point proven.

I plan to buy this game soon, um once the price drop to 24 dollars. I will play the game as it is, but when i buy Vista and a powerful Geforce card, i will play the game at its near best. :)

Also

http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94175

Post #6 on Futuremarks forum
1024x768/shadows low/game effects on low/everything else on medium, the first photo is with AAX2, the second is not. I get about 10-17fps Max. Only drops down to 10 when all the action heats up, but stays at 17 most of time.
Not bad for my computer, with 90watts and a Intel Pentium III huh.
I get up to 19-30fps in the game tho, if i play at 1024x768 everything on low tho.

I am buying my new , um secondary rig this weekend tho. Going with a gateway or dell 2.4ghz, Intel dual core. Not dual core 2, but dual core. Its only 40-50 dollars, so thats a great deal. I just have to see whats in it, and start adding whatever i need to

The first Futuremarks thread was created a year ago "04-05-2008" and u2konline still has not put together that secondary rig:laugh:
 
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You guys are something haha. I am not a troll, i just post on alot of forums, i have like 75 forums bookmarked in seamonkey and about 30 more in mozilla. Your point being? I also go by alot of aliases online/offline. Vega$, The General, u2konline, try using the search engine people. :laugh:

Anyways,

Please just uprate your PSU at least!! :D
90watts is just fine. And i already requested that someone find me one, this is my PSU right here:

http://www.beachcomputers.com/nps-90ab-1.htm
So if you can find one the same size , that is good and that has higher watts, cool. If not, i am just going to buy 2 more 90watts as backups when i get the chance.

CRT monitors are hard to find these days, unless you are buying second hand.
Second hand as in the pawn shop yes. They have hundreds of them for 20 dollars. My gateway monitor from 2000 died um a couple months ago, and i bought another one from the pawn shop which i am using now, 15inch Princeton Graphic Systems, from 1996. Works just fine

Jericho is a single player first persons shooter, the action isn't fast paste so a lot of time time you could be stationary.
There are moments in the game where its fast pace. Running at a solid 15-20fps is just fine for me in the game, everything is moving smooth.

But if you're playing a fast paste game such as a racing game e.g. GRID where you are constantly moving, the vehicle is giving the impression of travelling 100-200 MPH you'll need a high frame rate.
Racing games , you need the speed to go up to 20-30.. Flatout 2 is very face pace game, and i get 25-40fps in the game, thats good enough for me.
 
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