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A die shot has popped up - and it confuses me like no other:


Either the pic is fake or AMD seriously revamped the internal structure of the shaders because if the pic is interpreted using the principle that applies to RV770 then the conclusion is absolutely CRAZY: The pic has two blocks of shaders (green squares), and each block of shaders has multiple rows of ALUs. In RV770 each such row has 80ALUs. If this chip had the same 80ALUs per row then whole chip would have 16 rows in both shader blocks, yielding a whopping 2×16×80SPs=2560SPs. But obviously that's not true 'cause we know there's "only" 1600SPs.

SO, the structure of the shader array must be changed since RV770.
OR, the pic is fake.

edit:
Didn't take long for it to be confirmed fake.
 
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That pic looks spot-on to a diagram I saw yesterday. It almost does look like two rv770 mushed together in the same silicon.
 
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Thanks for both those posts mastrdrver, posted your links in the"first radeon hd5870...." thread, but credited you .
 
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Very nice pics. =)
By 28cm you mean the whole card, and not just the PCB, that is, including the mounting bracket and DVI connectors sticking outside the case? The PCB alone should be 26.5cm.

And those pics confirmed the construction of the VRM:
● 4 "digital" vGPU phases with Volterra VT1157SF (never seen these before...), option for a 5th vGPU phase
● new type of vGPU inductor package
● 1 "digital" uncore (GDDR5 IMC?) phase with Volterra VT1157SF, option for a 2nd
● 1+1 "digital" GDDR5 vDD+vDDQ phases with Volterra VT242WF
● 2× Volterra VT1165MF controllers (vGPU & uncore)
● the card is SOFTMOD COMPLIANT, YAY!
● 2×6pin, option for 6pin+8pin - not that it matters, though

It's a strong PWM, overall. The PCB supports VT1195SFs aswell instead just the VT1157SFs installed, so there's an open upgrade path for even more stronger parts.
Do you see the voltmod points yet? lol.
 

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Hey just found theses


Vantage



HD5870 vs GTX295




Tested on a Core i7 965 system with 6GB memory.

HD5850 vs GTX285



Tested on a Core i7 965 system with 6GB memory.
 
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Do you see the voltmod points yet? lol.
Actually...
vGPU hardmod is the same as on GTX280 and HD2900-series cards.
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i provided a gpu-z build to amd that works with the new cards, they put it on the press ftp so everyone with nda can use it
 
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But v0.3.3 certainly cant do this?

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8238/5870w.jpg
 

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I take those results with a grain of salt. I'll wait until the NDA is lifted.
 
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I take those results with a grain of salt. I'll wait until the NDA is lifted.

Same here. I don't much care for two bar graphs.
 

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i dont think i have any favourite benchmark, why should i? i put tons of hours into running all sorts of benchmarks and then condense them into on number "relative performance"
 
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Keep up the good work W1zzard, I can't wait to see your review of the 5870/5850 (or whichever model AMD gave you) once the NDA has expired. :rockout:
 
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i dont think i have any favourite benchmark, why should i? i put tons of hours into running all sorts of benchmarks and then condense them into on number "relative performance"

well my personal favorite for when i got my HD 4870 was of course crysis :p, n then i sold it bc i heard of these babies. I'm mainly looking forward to continuing my Stalker:CS campaign as i put it on hold with while only having my 7800GTX.

i don't blame w1z lol i'd say he just gets excited to see how much better performance is across the board and wants to complete the review as quickly and efficiently possible. I noticed in one of your recent reviews though that you only included i think 8 graphic cards or so. Was that a one time thing or are your reviews going to consist of less GPU's for now on? i hope not lol

EDIT: now i'd assume for hte people that are apparently breaking the NDA if they're found out, will probly not be sent any more future cards? another question: when your sent cards to review you have to send them back don't you? or do ATI/Nvidia allow you to keep the card(s) for future reviews?
 
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I think they are suposed to send them back, they will then be sent to other ppl, if not imagine W1zzard's hidden stash...
 
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With other products I've seen the reviewers give them away as prizes and such like.
 
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