The HD 5970 Clubhouse

OzDave · Mar 15, 2010

Hi,

I use my rig for work (web developer) and although I'm not a full on gamer, I like to play games with all the eye candy.

I purchased my new PC in Feb 2010 and got the Sapphire 5970 OC.

Problem is I've never been an ATi guy, always used Nvidia.

I have no clue how to flash a bios or anything else that seems normal practice for you all, I'm a complete noobie.

Right now my biggest concern are the 2D artifacts.

I updated to the 10.2 drivers which seems to make the card run better in 3D but still not as great as I expected or was told by the sales guy :laugh:

specs:
i7 290
Corsair 4 gig DDR3 1600 mhz
Sapphire 5970 OC
Corsair 1000w psu
Gigabyte P55A-UDAP mobo
WD 1TB 32Meg cache 7200rpm sata HDD
Antec 910 case
OS Win XP

Some peeps talk about the pre beta 10.3 which I see a few 9570 card owners saying are the best. But I suppose first of all I need to flash the bios.

Anyone care to give me a quick (in noob speak) how I do this. Followed by what else I need to get this card running at an acceptable performance.

Any help or assistance is much appreciated.

adios

Dave

Black Panther · Mar 15, 2010

highroller8 said:
some one help me sapphire is looking the other way !!!!!

Sorry I didn't quite understand. Perhaps you can explain? Or take a photo and post it here?

OzDave said:
Problem is I've never been an ATi guy, always used Nvidia.

I have no clue how to flash a bios or anything else that seems normal practice for you all, I'm a complete noobie.

Right now my biggest concern are the 2D artifacts.
(snip)

Some peeps talk about the pre beta 10.3 which I see a few 9570 card owners saying are the best. But I suppose first of all I need to flash the bios.

Anyone care to give me a quick (in noob speak) how I do this.

Welcome to the club Dave! And... welcome to TPU!!! Lovely pc you got there btw! You should go to the control panel (of this forum) and input your specs so they show right under your avatar when one clicks the link saying 'System Specs'. (Make sure you check the box to make them viewable)

Me as well, this 5970 is first Ati card I got.

However, to install the 10.3 beta drivers you don't need to flash the bios.
What I did was run Driver Sweeper (free download) and remove Ati drivers, then install the 10.3 beta which I downloaded from TPU's download site.

Black Panther · Mar 17, 2010

Thanks to erocker for posting this, I'm going to try the following out later on today or tomorrow:

erocker said:
So many owners of 5 series cards are experiencing issues with video playback (namely Flash Player). On the 5870 and 5850 specifically, 2d clocks are set way down to 175/300 to save on power. This is most likely not enough to play HD video, especially if the bios isn't switching to video mode. To fix this without flashing your bios, all you need to do is create a profile in CCC and edit it.

Step 1

Open Catalyst Control Center (Advanced View).

Options-->Profiles-->Profiles Manager.

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/2d1.jpg

Step 2

Enter a profile name in the field.

Below the name field, under the "Composition" tab, select "all Catalyst Control Center settings"

Tick "Save" next to where you put your profile name, then close. Do not activate the profile yet.

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/2d2.jpg

Step 3

Now you will need to make sure you can view hidden folders on your system by going to the Control

Panel-->Folder Options-->View tab and select "Show hidden files, folders and drives." Close.

Go to your "My Documents" folder and open the AppData folder. From there it's Local-->ATi-->Profiles-->"Your profile name.xml" Right click and tick Edit.

From there you change the two values below. 300Mhz GPU / 575Mhz RAM worked best for me. I got stuttering at the tops of windows with 300/500

With multiple GPU's each GPU is listed separately in the profile (0,1,2,3,etc.). Tested and working with CrossFired 5850's.

Save it, restart, go back into CCC and activate your profile

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http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/2d3.jpg
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/2d5.jpg
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/2d4.jpg

BlackNinja · Mar 19, 2010

Hi ...

Have had my Sapphire 5970 OC + 5870 Vapor-X cards since end of December and loved the max everything out ability on a single 1920x1080 monitor. Then got 2 more monitors for Eyefinity and lost loads of eye candy as CrossfireX don't work and VRam limits reached with 4x or 8x AA depending on game! Next stop is max overclock and I'm at 950/1250 for everyday gaming use with 1.225v on the cores but can bench at 980/1300 with 1.3v but does crash occasionally at this setting. Vrm temps are OK under load so I assume one of the GPU chips can't quite do it .... I use MSI Afterburner to set the values.

What clocks are you getting from yours and at what voltages?

t_ski · Mar 19, 2010

930/1300 @ 1.174v across both cards

Black Panther · Mar 19, 2010

I tried to do erocker's fix, and found out that something had gone wrong when I had installed the beta drivers - I have no CCC! :eek:

It isn't loading upon startup and if I click its shortcut I get the error message of a file called CLI.Implementation being missing :confused:

Anyway, now I'm off to download the 10.3 a drivers which were put up this week. People have been reporting an increase in performance and benchmarks with this driver.

t_ski · Mar 19, 2010

I have heard Afterburner does not work with the 10.3a driver.

BTW, your error message may have something to do with Microsoft .NET framework.

Black Panther · Mar 19, 2010

I have TWO good news! :rockout:

No 1 is that erocker's method worked to rid me of the measles and gsods which occur after I quit a game and start a 2d application or just browse windows!
I had installed the 10.3a drivers, ran unigine, and after I quit that and came online I had red spots all over the monitor, freezes, and driver stopped working and has recovered error messages. After I set the idle clocks to 300 and 500 instead of 175 and 300, everything's perfect! :toast:

No 2 is that the 10.3a drivers really do bring a hell of an improvement!

The first benchmark below was done with the 10.2 drivers, and the second one with the 10.3a :rockout:

fullinfusion · Mar 19, 2010

Black Panther said:
Thanks to erocker for posting this, I'm going to try the following out later on today or tomorrow:

I just did the following and so far so good. This thread is getting really informative :respect:

Idle 300 core and 500 memory.

BlackNinja · Mar 19, 2010

t_ski said:
I have heard Afterburner does not work with the 10.3a driver.

BTW, your error message may have something to do with Microsoft .NET framework.

I'm using Afterburner with 10.3a ... I am very happy with stability so far!

overclocking101 · Mar 20, 2010

so these cards any god or what?? been thinking about swapping my dual 4890's for one

douglatins · Mar 20, 2010

overclocking101 said:
so these cards any god or what?? been thinking about swapping my dual 4890's for one

Get 2 5850 if you plan on doing it

fullinfusion · Mar 20, 2010

douglatins said:
Get 2 5850 if you plan on doing it

This is the 5970 club house mate lol

There shall be no talk of the tiny 5850's

I had Two top notch XXX XFX 4890's that liked high clocks..... The difference is from night to day upgrading to the monster 5970!

Trust us it's worth it :rolleyes:

Just keep in mind that Nvidia has there new gpu coming out soon and personally im thinking :wtf:

ATI is holding back and just waiting for the green team to hit the market and show some marks annnnnnnd..... soon after that ......Well a driver is going to come out to unleash this card's power :pimp:

But really it's quite the upgrade bro :toast:

fullinfusion · Mar 20, 2010

t_ski said:
I have heard Afterburner does not work with the 10.3a driver.

BTW, your error message may have something to do with Microsoft .NET framework.

Working fine here on the 10.3a's T :toast:

Black Panther · Mar 20, 2010

fullinfusion said:
Just keep in mind that Nvidia has there new gpu coming out soon and personally im thinking
ATI is holding back and just waiting for the green team to hit the market and show some marks annnnnnnd..... soon after that ......Well a driver is going to come out to unleash this card's power

Nvidia's new card is to compete with the 5870.
Sure it may result to be quite a lot better than the 5870 but knowing Nvidia I'm pretty sure it's going to be more expensive too. In such case my guess is that gamers would be better off buying a 5970. :laugh:

Especially if drivers continue to improve as they have just did.

BlackNinja · Mar 20, 2010

Been playing with the 10.3a drivers and so far I am happy with em ... IMHO ATI should get Crossfire for more than 2 GPUs to work in Eyefinity asap as those resolutions would really benefit - my 5870 Vapor-X has been pretty much redundant since I got eyefinity up and running a month ago! The results here for Unigine with no AA is a baseline so is worth noting as more GPUs will help get that up, I can apply 2xAA but any more is a slide show. I got a few extra fps with the latest drivers so keep it up I say!

BFBC2 has got a bit smoother I think also and is great at this res all on high with 4xAA with HBAO off to give a consistantly smooth 65+ fps, 1xAA delivers 80+ (HBAO gives a subtle but pleasing effect but it gets a wee bit choppy inm the thick of it when it is ON), tri-fire would seal the deal here methinks ...

Lionheart · Mar 21, 2010

Hey guys, does anyone know when those HD5970 4gb cards are coming out?

stock · Mar 21, 2010

Add me then, Panther

Just picked myself up an XFX HD5970 Black Edition

I'll post some benches when I get it installed

Just testing out some cards that I'm trying to sell.

flurry · Mar 22, 2010

New here myself

I run dual Diamond Radeon 5970's and would like to join in as well. Will add screens, bench's etc. a bit later.

Cheers,

flurry

t_ski · Mar 22, 2010

BlackNinja said:
I'm using Afterburner with 10.3a ... I am very happy with stability so far!

fullinfusion said:
Working fine here on the 10.3a's T

BlackNinja said:
Been playing with the 10.3a drivers and so far I am happy with em ... IMHO ATI should get Crossfire for more than 2 GPUs to work in Eyefinity asap as those resolutions would really benefit - my 5870 Vapor-X has been pretty much redundant since I got eyefinity up and running a month ago! The results here for Unigine with no AA is a baseline so is worth noting as more GPUs will help get that up, I can apply 2xAA but any more is a slide show. I got a few extra fps with the latest drivers so keep it up I say!

BFBC2 has got a bit smoother I think also and is great at this res all on high with 4xAA with HBAO off to give a consistantly smooth 65+ fps, 1xAA delivers 80+ (HBAO gives a subtle but pleasing effect but it gets a wee bit choppy inm the thick of it when it is ON), tri-fire would seal the deal here methinks ...

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9048/unigine59706056x1080.jpg

OK, so OC'ing the card with 10.3a and Afterburner works? I'll need to try these out then...

SK-1 · Mar 22, 2010

I'm in!
Looks like I picked a good time to go Red Team. The new drivers gave me 25k+ stock on 06'. BTW I went from GTX280 in SLi.

Lionheart · Mar 22, 2010

stock said:
Add me then, Panther

Just picked myself up an XFX HD5970 Black Edition

I'll post some benches when I get it installed

Just testing out some cards that I'm trying to sell.

Very interesting avatar there Bru! :laugh:

flurry · Mar 23, 2010

My Heaven run at 2560x1600 2xAA

Black Panther · Mar 23, 2010

stock said:
Add me then, Panther

Just picked myself up an XFX HD5970 Black Edition

I'll post some benches when I get it installed

Just testing out some cards that I'm trying to sell.

flurry said:
New here myself

I run dual Diamond Radeon 5970's and would like to join in as well. Will add screens, bench's etc. a bit later.

Cheers,

flurry

SK-1 said:
I'm in!
Looks like I picked a good time to go Red Team. The new drivers gave me 25k+ stock on 06'. BTW I went from GTX280 in SLi.

Welcome to the team! :toast:

stock · Mar 24, 2010

Can I just ask what idle temps some of you are getting, preferably air cooled

Mine is set-up on a test bench, as such there isn't a great deal of airflow across the board (no fans set up as yet, ambient 20-22c)

:toast:

System Name	MyRig
Processor	i7 290
Motherboard	Gigabyte P55A-UDAP
Cooling	fans (lots)
Memory	Corsair 4 gig DDR3 1600 mhz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire 5970 OC
Storage	WD 1TB 32Meg cache 7200rpm sata
Display(s)	LG 23"
Case	Antec 910
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair 1000w
Software	XP

System Name	Black Panther
Processor	i9 9900k
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO Wifi 1.0
Cooling	NZXT Kraken X72 360mm
Memory	2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3600Mhz
Video Card(s)	Palit RTX2080 Ti Dual 11GB DDR6
Storage	Samsung EVO 970 500GB SSD M.2 & 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm
Display(s)	32'' Gigabyte G32QC 2560x1440 165Hz
Case	NZXT H710i Black
Audio Device(s)	Razer Electra V2 & Z5500 Speakers
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus GX-850 Gold 80+
Mouse	Some Corsair lost the box forgot the model
Keyboard	Motospeed
Software	Windows 10

System Name	Black Panther
Processor	i9 9900k
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO Wifi 1.0
Cooling	NZXT Kraken X72 360mm
Memory	2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3600Mhz
Video Card(s)	Palit RTX2080 Ti Dual 11GB DDR6
Storage	Samsung EVO 970 500GB SSD M.2 & 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm
Display(s)	32'' Gigabyte G32QC 2560x1440 165Hz
Case	NZXT H710i Black
Audio Device(s)	Razer Electra V2 & Z5500 Speakers
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus GX-850 Gold 80+
Mouse	Some Corsair lost the box forgot the model
Keyboard	Motospeed
Software	Windows 10

Processor	Core i7 @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard	Gigabyte X58-UD5
Cooling	TRUE for CPU & Stock Air on GPUs
Memory	12GB 1600MHz ...
Video Card(s)	Sapphire 5970 OC + 5870 Vapor-X
Storage	Crucial 128GB SSD + 1TB Samsung + 500GB Seagate
Display(s)	3x1920x1080 Viewsonic
Case	Chieftec Ful Tower (Ancient!)
Audio Device(s)	On board
Power Supply	Corsair HX-1000W
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit

System Name	My i7 Beast
Processor	Intel Core i7 6800K
Motherboard	Asus X99-A II
Cooling	Nickel-plated EK Supremacy EVO, D5 with XSPC Bayres & BIX Quad Radiator
Memory	4 x 8GB EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3200
Video Card(s)	EVGA 1080 SuperClocked
Storage	Samsung 950 Pro 256GB m.2 SSD + 480GB Sandisk storage SSD
Display(s)	Three Asus 24" VW246H LCD's
Case	Silverstone TJ07
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200
Keyboard	Corsair K95
Software	Windows 10 x64 Pro

The HD 5970 Clubhouse

OzDave

New Member

Black Panther

Black Panther

BlackNinja

New Member

t_ski

Former Staff

Black Panther

t_ski

Former Staff

Black Panther

fullinfusion

Vanguard Beta Tester

BlackNinja

New Member

overclocking101

douglatins

fullinfusion

Vanguard Beta Tester

fullinfusion

Vanguard Beta Tester

Black Panther

BlackNinja

New Member

Lionheart

stock

flurry

New Member

t_ski

Former Staff

SK-1

Lionheart

flurry

New Member

Black Panther

stock

System Name	The wifes worst enemy
Processor	i5-9600k
Motherboard	Asrock z390 phantom gaming 4
Cooling	water
Memory	16gb G.skill ripjaw DDR4 2400 4X4GB 15-15-15-35-2T
Video Card(s)	Asrock 5600xt phantom gaming 6gb 14gb/s
Storage	crucial M500 120GB SSD, Pny 256GB SSD, seagate 750GB, seagate 2TB HDD, WD blue 1TB 2.5" HDD
Display(s)	27 inch samsung @ 1080p but capable of much more ;)
Case	Corsair AIR 540 Cube Mid tower
Audio Device(s)	onboard
Power Supply	EVGA GQ1000W MODULAR
Mouse	generic for now
Keyboard	generic for now
Software	gotta love steam, origin etc etc
Benchmark Scores	http://hwbot.org/user/philbrown_23/

System Name	Sovereign // HTPC
Processor	i7 3770k 4.2 // i7 3770k 4.2
Motherboard	Maximus V Gene // Sabertooth Z77
Cooling	Noctua D14 // Intel HSF
Memory	16GB Samsung // 16GB VengeanceLP
Video Card(s)	Deciding // 660 DC2
Storage	OS (X25-M), Data (Seagate 1TB) // Samsung 840 120GB & bunch of drives
Display(s)	Samsung T240HD // LG TV
Case	TJ08e // Grandia GD08
Audio Device(s)	DT880 Pro 250 ohm // TV speakers
Power Supply	Seasonic Plat 1000 // Seasonic Gold 760
Software	Windows 8 Pro x64 // Windows 7 Pro x64

System Name	Boomer Master Race
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS APU
Motherboard	BareBones Mini PC MB
Cooling	Mini PC Cooling
Memory	Crucial 32GB 4800MHz
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 680M 8GB IGPU
Storage	Crucial 500GB M.2 SSD + 2TB Ext HDD
Display(s)	Sony 4K Bravia X85J 43Inch TV 120Hz
Case	Beelink Mini PC Chassis
Audio Device(s)	Built In Realtek Digital Audio HD
Power Supply	120w Power Brick
Mouse	Logitech G203 Lightsync
Keyboard	Atrix RGB Slim Keyboard
VR HMD	( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ )
Software	Windows 10 Home 64bit
Benchmark Scores	Don't do them anymore.

System Name	Mindy -
Processor	i7 2600k - i5 4670
Motherboard	AsRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 - MSI Z87 G45 Gaming
Cooling	Water - Prolimatech Megahalems w/Akasa Viper fan - Intel Cooler
Memory	8GB Samsung Green LP 1600MHz - 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX680 SC Signature - Palit GTX465 w/Deepcool V6000
Storage	OCZ Vertex4 128GB : OCZ Octane 256GB : 1TB F3 - Crucial M4 64GB : Caviar Black 640GB
Display(s)	Asus 27" @ 144Hz - Dell 2408WFP - Samsung Syncmaster 2253BW
Case	Banchetto 101 - Antec 1200
Audio Device(s)	Xonar D2X : Logitech Z-5500 : Logitech G930 - Onboard
Power Supply	Antec 750w True Power New - Corsair HX650
Software	W7 HP x64 - Windows 8.1 Pro x64

System Name	Red Matter 2
Processor	Ryzen 5600X
Motherboard	X470 Gaming Pro Carbon
Cooling	Water is Masterliquid 240 Pro
Memory	GeiL EVO X 3600mhz 32g also G.Skill Ripjaw series 5 4x8 3600mhz as backup lol
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte Gaming Radeon RX 6800
Storage	EVO 860. Rocket Q M.2 SSD WD Blue M.2 SSD Seagate Firecuda 2tb storage.
Display(s)	ASUS ROG Swift PG32VQ
Case	Phantek P400 Glass
Audio Device(s)	EVGA NU Audio
Power Supply	EVGA G3 850
Mouse	Roccat Military/ Razer Deathadder V2
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Software	W10