NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 Fermi

Black Panther · Mar 28, 2010

TheMailMan78 said:
I think that whole glove thing was a joke? If not I would hate to see this thing run in my home state. Florida.

I don't think it's a joke. If the gpu is 95 degrees while gaming the outside of the card won't be exactly cool... :laugh:

Btw, once I nearly burned myself removing a passively cooled FX5500.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 28, 2010

Black Panther said:
I don't think it's a joke. If the gpu is 95 degrees while gaming the outside of the card won't be exactly cool...
Btw, once I nearly burned myself removing a passively cooled FX5500.

Passively cooled I understand but that 480 has a HUGE cooler on it.

Deleted member 24505 · Mar 28, 2010

He did show the twmp at the back end at 67c though,which is quite hot,i suppose it does depend how long the pc had been off before he took it out though.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 28, 2010

tigger said:
He did show the twmp at the back end at 67c though,which is quite hot,i suppose it does depend how long the pc had been off before he took it out though.

Ya know with better cooling and higher volts to the extreme that the 480 is set at I wonder how the 58xx series would fair.

I mean my idle speed it 32c and my load never breaks 65. Thats with a mild OC too. I wish someone with ballz of steal would really set one of these puppies up to the temp levels of the 480 and do a bench.

option350z · Mar 28, 2010

This reminds me of the PWM's on my Asus 4870. They go beyond this temp under load. The 480 is a great single card but I'm interested to see how this scales in SLI. I would think temps would be above 100C at that point.

Deleted member 24505 · Mar 28, 2010

I think there is also he problem of two cards bleeding that 67c heat into your case,you better have good case ventilation.

TAViX · Mar 28, 2010

TheMailMan78 said:
That has to be a simple driver mess up. I'm sure they will fix that.

Maybe, maybe not... But it seems that users had this kind of problem with early generations too, so... :banghead:

But I'm thinking at this: If you need 2 cards to run on 3 monitors, and obviously, they are running 3D freq all the time, how much heat is produced?

Remind me during the winter to shut off the heating. Those babies can heat my entire building!! :nutkick:

W1zzard · Mar 28, 2010

Black Panther said:
I don't think it's a joke. If the gpu is 95 degrees while gaming the outside of the card won't be exactly cool...
Btw, once I nearly burned myself removing a passively cooled FX5500.

i burned myself several times too .. basically everything on the card is hot .. and the heatipes are REALLY hot, really easy to touch them with your thenar muscle when handling the card

wahdangun · Mar 28, 2010

W1zzard said:
i burned myself several times too .. basically everything on the card is hot .. and the heatipes are REALLY hot, really easy to touch them with your thenar muscle when handling the card

WHAT

, wow, i never expected the card is THAT hot :wtf:

i hope board partner, include some protective glove, so no one get burned with this thing

so someone who say this temperature are fine are crazy

pantherx12 · Mar 28, 2010

Amazing its getting hot enough to burn even with a fan on it really.

Only times I've managed to burn myself on heatsinks is when I've left them running passively.

( once had my true get to 90c, that was painful)

wahdangun · Mar 28, 2010

yeah i once get burned with NB heatsink when i'm trying to OC the CPU,

wew, so anyone who bashing wizz review are moron and didn't know what the dedication he have to deliver this review.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 28, 2010

W1zzard said:
i burned myself several times too .. basically everything on the card is hot .. and the heatipes are REALLY hot, really easy to touch them with your thenar muscle when handling the card

I stand corrected. Man Fermi is an epic fail on Nvidias part. I had a feeling they would bomb but DAMN I had no idea they were this bad.

Cold Storm · Mar 28, 2010

All I can say anymore... Revisions, revisions, revisions!!!

Steevo · Mar 28, 2010

Wile E said:
Our 4870x2 draws even more power, performs worse, and has less features. 480 is the better card.

As for the heat issues, I want to know why nVidia has chosen to use an IHS. I bet it would run a good bit cooler with a naked die. Tho power draw would still be insane, at least temps would be helped.

Probably to help stabilize the core on the board, no thermal problems with the interface, no issues with the actual core popping off at 105C or issues with the die being chipped if they didn't use a protective layer that was thick enough to bear the brunt of a heatsink for thermal reasons.

I want to see what a watercooled card with a good powersupply can do.

hat · Mar 28, 2010

I wonder what kind of aftermarket heatsink designs they'll come up with for this...

Steevo · Mar 28, 2010

More than five heatpipes, that are 8mm by the look, with a powerful blower fan? I doubt if anything aftermarket right now will cool this as well as the stock HS combo. Just face it, 300W is your target cooling capacity. The only thing that can handle that is water. Cranking up my 5870 to 1.35V and running 1100 core I actually start to raise my water temps. It feels almost hot coming out of the card.

This card with overclocking is going to take a 360 radiator by itself, plus a 240 for your CPU, and at least a 120 for your chipsets.

pantherx12 · Mar 28, 2010

hat said:
I wonder what kind of aftermarket heatsink designs they'll come up with for this...

Think traditional water cooler radiator but using heatpipes instead of water pipes.

They'd have to maximise surface area by using the zig zag style of a traditional rad.

I imagine support bars would be a must as well .

Think t-rad2

but with all the fins zig zagging : ]

Although just a trad would still do a better job then the stock cooler I'd bet.

a_ump · Mar 28, 2010

Steevo said:
More than five heatpipes, that are 8mm by the look, with a powerful blower fan? I doubt if anything aftermarket right now will cool this as well as the stock HS combo. Just face it, 300W is your target cooling capacity. The only thing that can handle that is water. Cranking up my 5870 to 1.35V and running 1100 core I actually start to raise my water temps. It feels almost hot coming out of the card.

This card with overclocking is going to take a 360 radiator by itself, plus a 240 for your CPU, and at least a 120 for your chipsets.

i agree. the stock heatsink is on the same level if not higher than aftermarket cooling. I mean 5 8mm HDT heatpipes? is there even an aftermarket cooler out right now that has that?

Course there is the logic that if you get an aftermarket that only has to cool the GPU and a fan dedicated to that temps might improve, since you would have heatsinks taking care of memory and the other extras. If i recall weren't there some HD 4870's that didn't even have heatsinks on the memory chips?

pantherx12 · Mar 28, 2010

Whilst this is 3rd party ( Asus) this is probably the best stock cooler around

So there is better stock cooling out there, and much much better after market cooling XD

Whilst the stock cooler used on the 480 has a lot of heatpipes the rest of the design is pretty average, if not inefficient.

With a few tweeks it be a great cooler for the 480 : ]

wahdangun · Mar 28, 2010

pantherx12 said:
Think traditional water cooler radiator but using heatpipes instead of water pipes.

They'd have to maximise surface area by using the zig zag style of a traditional rad.

I imagine support bars would be a must as well .

Think t-rad2 http://www.crazypc.com/images/coolers/chip/trad2/trad2huge.jpg

but with all the fins zig zagging : ]

Although just a trad would still do a better job then the stock cooler I'd bet.

but i think something like this is not really efficient. just look what happen to something like this in CPU cooler, they fail miserable

pantherx12 · Mar 28, 2010

wahdangun said:
but i think something like this is not really efficient. just look what happen to something like this in CPU cooler, they fail miserable

Trad-2 is the best after market gpu cooler I've used so far :laugh:

Hell I ran several cards on it passively!

4850 @750mhz didn't go over 60c passively : ] ( Custom case at the time though, so airflow was top notch)

imperialreign · Mar 28, 2010

After all the hype nVidia were throwing out, I was seriously expecting these cards to flat-out spank the 5000 series (except the 5970) . . . all-in-all, I'm really not seeing it. Aside from PhysX support, it looks to me like the 5850/70 are a generally better deal for most gaming setups.

w1z - any consideration to running the STALKER: Call of Pripyat benchmark for DX10/11 comparisons?

As well, I think it'd be a good benchmark to add to the testing list - allows for benching DX9, DX10, DX10.1 and DX11.

Steevo · Mar 28, 2010

GPU Physx for all 15 games out there? No thanks.

Panther, that is a good looking cooler, except the fact that 300W woth of heat remains in your case, so 90% of users with closed cases will gain a extra 40C of heat in their case, and that means less heat extraction, and that means higher temps, and that means performance the same as or lower than stock cooling that removes heat from the GPU to the outside of the case, and also drawing in more fresh cool air.

Plus your 4850 at whatever speed is at least half the load of this, so not even the same ballpark.

blkhogan · Mar 28, 2010

I was really considering Nvidia for my next gpu upgrades soon to be happening. Not too impressed overall. Its still a "powerhouse" and a great leap forward for Nvidia. The power required to power this beast and the heat produced is really going to be a sticking point for some people. My more efficient but much less powered 5770 will have to last a bit longer. Cant wait to start seeing numbers and benches from some members. Great review as always. :toast:

pantherx12 · Mar 28, 2010

Steevo said:
GPU Physx for all 15 games out there? No thanks.

Panther, that is a good looking cooler, except the fact that 300W woth of heat remains in your case, so 90% of users with closed cases will gain a extra 40C of heat in their case, and that means less heat extraction, and that means higher temps, and that means performance the same as or lower than stock cooling that removes heat from the GPU to the outside of the case, and also drawing in more fresh cool air.

Plus your 4850 at whatever speed is at least half the load of this, so not even the same ballpark.

Well its hardly my fault people don't know about proper case airflow management :laugh:

As for the later point, obviously man :laugh:

but stick some fans on a trad and it will perform better then that stock heat-sink no problems .

has more surface area better heat distribution for one.

Decent 92mm fans on it and you get around 110cfm blowing on it too : ]

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