GF100 512 Core Graphics Card Tested Against GeForce GTX 480

ebolamonkey3 · Aug 9, 2010

Really can't wait for the GTX 475 and GTX 49x this winter!!!

Perhaps Nvidia is releasing them during the winter so they won't run so hot?

I kid.... I hope.

LAN_deRf_HA · Aug 9, 2010

vagxtr said:
Would that be GTX465x2 Or how to put two already 250W+ wasting chips onto same card, even if pcb's sandwiched together it should be at least triple slot edition with 450W TDP. So i think Asus is selling c-r-a-p yet again and collecting some freebie advertising as their fans bragging about that never to be released card all around the net

Yes cause surely they haven't done something like that before, and have many raging fans :rolleyes:

KainXS · Aug 9, 2010

I'm waiting for a die shot before I believe anything, why would Nvidia release the 512sp version when we know that the tweaked architecture on the GF104 is better than the 100's.

that or they got a rare 512sp sample.

but expreview did have a wei hang GTX480 and said it was 512sp when the one wei hang had has actually 480sp, not trusting them.

crazyeyesreaper · Aug 9, 2010

same not gonna trust this yet and oooo 2fps gain in crysis so impressed with a peak TDP at 320w on a 480gtx im willing to guess the 512sp will hit 340w -350w tdp on a single gpu card reaching nearly 4870x2 power consumption lol fail / sarcasm

HillBeast · Aug 9, 2010

crazyeyesreaper said:
same not gonna trust this yet and oooo 2fps gain in crysis so impressed with a peak TDP at 320w on a 480gtx im willing to guess the 512sp will hit 340w -350w tdp on a single gpu card reaching nearly 4870x2 power consumption lol fail / sarcasm

They really are doing this just to have the undisputed champion of performance. And heat. And power. And noise. And unreliability due to the above.

crazyeyesreaper · Aug 9, 2010

well more power to them but from what reviews i can find around the net crysis is the wrong game to hype performance gains with as at 8xAA the 5870 is faster then even this 512sp part let alone the 5970 etc lol should have used a different game to give more hype lmao and if not ahead there still equal so yea moot point a whopping 2fps that u can get from overclocking the cpu alone let alone the gpu :roll:

and overclocking this thing id bet we would see people hit 400w draw peak

$ReaPeR$ · Aug 9, 2010

everything depends on the price....

HillBeast · Aug 9, 2010

crazyeyesreaper said:
crysis is the wrong game to hype performance gains with as at 8xAA

Crysis isn't actually a hardcore epic looking game like people think, it's just badly written. It runs just as bad on my HD5870 as it did on my GTX285 as it did on my 9800GX2 as it did on my 8800 Ultra. Fail. To be honest it seems to get slower every time I play it.

CDdude55 · Aug 9, 2010

Already running 2x 470's, so i really don't care for what they have lined up next within with Fermi architecture. I can deal with the other cards having a bit more stream processors etc.

LAN_deRf_HA · Aug 9, 2010

HillBeast said:
Crysis isn't actually a hardcore epic looking game like people think, it's just badly written. It runs just as bad on my HD5870 as it did on my GTX285 as it did on my 9800GX2 as it did on my 8800 Ultra. Fail. To be honest it seems to get slower every time I play it.

I thought everyone got over that assumption already? Crysis isn't poorly coded, the engine does more than other game engines do. It's just not as apparent to the average person. If you pay any sort of attention to it you'll see a huge gulf in quality between it and an unreal powered game. Even trying very hard to optimize in warhead they ultimately had to reduce quality to get a few extra frames. It's not a skill issue, it's just what you get from a no corners cut engine. Even with all the time they'll have put into crysis 2 it will only be mildly more efficient.

dalekdukesboy · Aug 9, 2010

I already have this card...2 of them...512 graphics cards

dalekdukesboy · Aug 9, 2010

oh...I'm sorry I have 8800gts 512...not gtx480 512 guess that's not quite the same is it? LOL least I don't have to apply for a new power grid around my house to run these cards...though I admit this is an interesting idea, but gf100 needs to die, it was an experiment and gf104 was the winning result. I agree till they do a die shrink or modify the gf100 architecture it's just way too hot, and way too inefficient as well as expensive for me to recommend it to someone.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Aug 9, 2010

dalekdukesboy said:
though I admit this is an interesting idea, but gf100 needs to die, it was an experiment and gf104 was the winning result. I agree till they do a die shrink or modify the gf100 architecture it's just way too hot, and way too inefficient as well as expensive for me to recommend it to someone.

Multiple GPCs (gf100) vs Lesser GPC but more Shader Procs crammed per SM's (gf104)... The former was thought to have better tesselation performance that way.. so far, the only thing reacting well to it was Heaven Benchmark.. not a lot of tessellated games anyway.. I say they should stick to cramming SPs per SM for now..

EastCoasthandle · Aug 9, 2010

crazyeyesreaper said:
same not gonna trust this yet and oooo 2fps gain in crysis so impressed with a peak TDP at 320w on a 480gtx im willing to guess the 512sp will hit 340w -350w tdp on a single gpu card reaching nearly 4870x2 power consumption lol fail / sarcasm

It looks to me they maybe trying to push a 512 core variant because they know AMD is releasing 6000 series. It was said a long time ago that the difference between 480c and 512c would be about 5% difference. So seeing that come true wasn't a shocker. As for the power consumption it would consume more then it's actual performance increase over the 480c. In a word it's simply underwhelming when you consider heat and power draw. I seriously doubt it will cost the same as the 480c but we will see.

HillBeast · Aug 9, 2010

LAN_deRf_HA said:
I thought everyone got over that assumption already? Crysis isn't poorly coded, the engine does more than other game engines do. It's just not as apparent to the average person. If you pay any sort of attention to it you'll see a huge gulf in quality between it and an unreal powered game. Even trying very hard to optimize in warhead they ultimately had to reduce quality to get a few extra frames. It's not a skill issue, it's just what you get from a no corners cut engine. Even with all the time they'll have put into crysis 2 it will only be mildly more efficient.

I never mentioned Unreal. Unreal looks nice but I do admit CryEngine looks better but it's not the bets looking game engine IMHO. Unigine from what I've seen of demos looks better to be honest, and that's doing DX11 which is slower and it stilll goes faster than Crysis.

CryEngine may be doing alot but it's still not a great engine.

dalekdukesboy · Aug 9, 2010

Bjorn_Of_Iceland said:
Multiple GPCs (gf100) vs Lesser GPC but more Shader Procs crammed per SM's (gf104)... The former was thought to have better tesselation performance that way.. so far, the only thing reacting well to it was Heaven Benchmark.. not a lot of tessellated games anyway.. I say they should stick to cramming SPs per SM for now..

and that takes a lot for someone to say when I see in his sig rig he has a gtx480 of all things!! lol Admittedly performance is great, just I have a budget and hot summers, and these two g92's in sli warm this room up considerably and they even as 2 are nowhere near what a reference gtx480 does for heat/power consumption! I'd be tempted to get the zotac amp version which at least is well cooled but you still have all that heat created which vents out the case into your room and the wall socket still would be on fire from it regardless of a good cooler lol.

EastCoasthandle · Aug 9, 2010

Hmm, CB says that a 480 offers 24 FPS in Crysis warhead at that resolution and AA. Even CB's 258.96 review didn't show any significant improvements for that game. In any case we will see if this 512c is true or not.

dalekdukesboy · Aug 9, 2010

you know what we/nvidia REALLY needs is to release the gf104 with ALL it's cores unlocked...I believe that is the gtx475 that is rumored right? That may be interesting to see what it can do.

OnBoard · Aug 9, 2010

Hmm, core revision is blurred, so will this be A4 or B1 ?)

Anyhow, looks like NVIDIA lineup will be GTX 460 (gf104), GTX 475 (gf104), GTX 485 (gf100 revA/B), GTX 49x (2xgf104 full).

GTX 465 is EOL, GTX 470 will be EOL as soon as they sell out and GTX 480 will be EOL and of year, but will most likely be around for a while for nice discounts, like GTX 280 was after GTX 285 release.

What I don't know is what to do with all the GF100 512 shader cards that don't cut it, as there won't be a SKU for them?

FreedomEclipse · Aug 9, 2010

vagxtr said:
Don't think this will be a real product. Rather some Limited Edition vaporware like ATi's XT800PE (if anyone remembers that today)

wasnt that supposed to be the X850XTPE?? ive not even heard of a XT800PE - but obviously the did exist as google has thrown up some references - mainly people having issues with games on their card. ummm I know the X850XTPE was like vapourware, but I still have one...I had the 2nd fastest overclocked X8x0 card on Guru3d back in the day the guy who beat me had a volt modded X800XT. ahh, such fond memories....

CDdude55 · Aug 9, 2010

20 bucks says this will be called ''GTX 480 Core 512''.

a_ump · Aug 9, 2010

hmmm u know, at stock we know who wins. but for the people that'll be buying this, enthusiasts, who probly like to overclock, i can't see this GTX 480 512 out-clocking the 480core GTX. Ergo i think that when overclocking's taken into account they'll probly be even.

DarthCyclonis · Aug 9, 2010

theonedub said:
I agree, GF104 for now and when a die shrink is possible we can revisit a new and improved GF100.

Absolutley. I would not want this with the current size of the GF100 die. A die shrink and a revision has done at lot and the GF104 is proof. However by that time they release a revised GTX480 the HD 6XXX series will most likely be out.

phanbuey · Aug 9, 2010

the54thvoid said:
Why?

Why oh why?

Nvidia already has the fastest single core GPU. (and hottest, loudest etc). Why would they use the GF100 for this? For 6-7% increase....

Unless it's a partner doing it and not NV?

Although if Southern Islands makes it out this year perhaps this is NV's attempt to dull down ATI's 5xxx series revision.

Two words - performance / watt. Thats all that counts. No point having a 6-7% faster card if it's technologically backwards in respect of power draw.

Everyone is making the assumption that this will be hotter and louder. Clearly this is a different stepping - and one that has less leakage and therefore less draw than the original GF100. Steppings can make a huge difference in power draw especially when manufacturing defects are the primary cause of this draw.

If anything the power draw may even stay the same or be lower than the 480 core version of the fermi.

Whitey · Aug 9, 2010

Do you think the cooler will have heatpipes coming out the side still ?

Or something like the Galaxy vapour chamber cooling ?

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