X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

adizonevic · Feb 21, 2006

infrared said:
ok, your lucky, 535mhz is way beyond the capabilities of the R430, which maxes out at around 450mhz, but it does look like the ram is 2.0ns.

You should be find to use a standard x850xt bios with it, but make sure you make a backup of the original before flashing.

Correction... I can push the GPU to 435 (not 535), so it's r430 for sure...
I did make a backup of the original BIOS (11x-xx600asa-001) and flashed with the modified x800gto2 version (16 pipes). I suppose the modified version comes from R480/1,6ns version, this is why I'm wondering about compatibility.
Thanks!

twinsen · Feb 21, 2006

YAY tht means mine is a proper r480 well i guess it is since i can play css for >3 hours without a crash. I think there may be a problem with the latest driver though as occasionally games just freeze straight away like when loading. I was using 603 core and 580 mem but temperatures got into 80s so i tuned it down to 530 540. This was done with standard cooling idles at 42 C which is quite high but my old 6800gt idled at 62 so its prob good. How high can these chips take because mine went up to 98 during a long gaming session. But seems to have survived

infrared · Feb 21, 2006

Wow, 603mhz on the core is awsome! What cooler does it have? With a decent cooler, you could exceed that by about 30+mhz, and the temps should be a little more comforting!

ATI rates the chips for an absolute maximum of 120c... But 100c will lower the lifetime of the core by a lot! I think the lifetime's halfed for every 10c more? I'm pretty sure i remember that correctly.

Anyway, you've definatly got a nice one.

adizonevic:

Sorry to hear yours is the r430, i'd ask the supplier about getting it changed, but you may not have any luck. Where did you get it?

I emailed the guys at www.tekheads.co.uk , and they gave me some BS reply saying the boxes are factory sealed, so we cannot check what card is in the box, which definatly does not inspire me with great confidence. I think they have checked, but just don't want to loose a sale by telling me they have the rubbish version.

I'm gonna check around and see if any other distributors are more helpful.

twinsen · Feb 21, 2006

Im sure they would have recieved all the info for tht batch they probably order them in bulk mayb 30 at a go so they r probably all the same type.

how long is the lifetime of a chip anyway
They usually go for years and years with no probs even if u oc them. Well im sure it will last the next 2 years.
Its just using the standard cooler at the moment but i will prob get an artic silencer rev 2 x850 model shud provide significant noise and heat loss.

On my first run at overclocking the card my ati tool crashed and i never realised it was running in background. But it put it all the way upto 650 + Then it kinda crappered up ig and big squares stated appearing. Thought id busted it after about half an hours use

adizonevic · Feb 22, 2006

Well, I guess I will have to live with my R430, and quite frankly I'm not that unhappy with it.
Managed to push it to 435/570 last night with fan set to 100%. Temp stayed at 57c, no artifacts in atitool
3dmark05 score with stock speed and 16p came up to 5100, and OC'd to 435/570 up to 5650
That's not a bad result I think, somewhere between x800xl and x850xt... correct me if I'm wrong...

Super XP · Feb 22, 2006

Well, I will ne throwing my card on eBay soon. All 16 pipelines were already unlocked via factory.

R480 Core
1.6ns GDDR3
OC'ed easy to 600/1260
Already flashed to X850XT
Dual DVI
VIVO
etc.

Nice card & performs great. Rock stable in other words.

KGB44 · Feb 22, 2006

Hey guys, today my new GTO² comes to me, becouse my old one crashes all the time in games. The fan was not as fast as before...damaged i think.

Today, a new card comes, in retail and with all brand new.

The new GTO² has the R480 too, and overclocking is much nicer :rockout:

The old card: 567/608

The new one: 608/648 without any modifications and stock cooling

twinsen · Feb 22, 2006

My ass do u get 648 for mem you git. i only get 580.

KGB44 · Feb 22, 2006

Yes, ca. 1300 MHZ DDR :toast:

infrared · Feb 23, 2006

Thats incredible... i wander how far it'd go with the vdd/vddq voltmods. You could exceed 700 easy! You got a lucky one

Be sure to put some benchmark scores in your sig, 3dmark05 would be nice!

Happy gaming!

~IR

rocky_balboa · Feb 25, 2006

well, i just bought a sapphire x800gto card..
looks like a fireblade, cousa it has a second slot cooler..

anyway, it has a r480 core as 12pp
can it be moded?
im afraid do do something wrong and loose the card =(

KGB44 · Feb 25, 2006

Download ATI TOOL, open it.

Press and Hold (!) the "SHIFT" Key and go into the "Settings" Menü in ATI TOOL.

There you can see "fuses"

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES

Please post your Numbers and Digits...

rocky_balboa · Feb 25, 2006

thanx 4 the reply!

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E

KGB44 · Feb 25, 2006

Your Graphic Card is with a little luck modable...

But you can't flash only another BIOS, you must do a Hardware Mod.

You need a little bit time, a sensitive hand

, silver lack or a pencil. But i dont know i a pencil works...

You see the two points on the attached image? You must do a little line around the cut...

The two points must have contact to each other...

If you do that with a pencil, you can't destroy your card i think. If you do it with silver, you must do it good, and without contact to the cut.

...

Happy Modding :toast:

ShadowFlare · Feb 25, 2006

KGB44 said:
Your Graphic Card is with a little luck modable...

But you can't flash only another BIOS, you must do a Hardware Mod.

You need a little bit time, a sensitive hand , silver lack or a pencil. But i dont know i a pencil works...

You see the two points on the attached image? You must do a little line around the cut...

The two points must have contact to each other...

If you do that with a pencil, you can't destroy your card i think. If you do it with silver, you must do it good, and without contact to the cut.

...

Happy Modding

Don't even bother, that doesn't exist on R480's, so there is no reason to take the cooler off unless you are either replacing the thermal compound or changing the cooling.

lixtek · Mar 1, 2006

I bought A red GTO2 with powerconnector...as far as good. It came already with 16pipelines without flashing the bios.
Anyway I am very disappointed, because when I try to find the max. core and memory it just goes until 500/550.
Would the overclocking abilities better if I flash a new bios like described in wizzards guide?

KGB44 · Mar 1, 2006

No, not really...the overclocking is only limited by physical. If you flash another BIOS, you would be able to get 510 MHZ Core and 560MHZ Memory...nothing more without VGPU or VDD Mod...

Super XP · Mar 1, 2006

lixtek said:
I bought A red GTO2 with powerconnector...as far as good. It came already with 16pipelines without flashing the bios.
Anyway I am very disappointed, because when I try to find the max. core and memory it just goes until 500/550.
Would the overclocking abilities better if I flash a new bios like described in wizzards guide?

Well, the only advantage you will have for flashing your bios to a X850XT R480 core is when you instal the drivers for your card. It will auto instal the R480 drivers, not the R430 which is what the card reads @ stock.

I did testing & found that when my card was running @ stock speed but read as a R430 w/ 16 pipelines, I gained a little more performance @ the same speed when I flashed to a R480 bios, but had to downclock to the original speed to find out if that would give it any performance.

Plus I also found that I had more stable OC's when my system read my card as the R480 & not the R430.

This is why I gained 550 core & 1150 Mem on AIR & 610 Core & 1260 Mem on Water

Azn Tr14dZ · Mar 2, 2006

Can i benefit from flashing the BIOS or modding an ATI Radeon X800XL R430?

grunge · Mar 2, 2006

Excuse my ignorance but, where could I get the bios for the R480? :banghead:

lixtek · Mar 2, 2006

Thanks, for your replies! I hope a biosflash will work! Perhabs KGB44 is right and it is a physical thing...but I have to test it with a biosflash.
@superxp : I have a gto2 with an r480, which xt bios would you recommend?
THX for help!

I tried several Bios the 850xt from spphire and powercolor. The problem is my fan always stops working after flashing the bios. Any solutions?

Mulder · Mar 2, 2006

I have an HIS X800GTO ICEQII Turbo with a power connector.

Here is the ati tool screenshot:

It also says R480. Can i flash this card to 16 pipes? If so, which bios should I use?

Thanks.

Migons · Mar 3, 2006

News from Finland:
ATI has loosen up its restrictions regarding new X800 GTO cards. It seems that almost every manufacturer's new X800 GTO cards should be moddable to 16pp. Sapphire X800GTO Lite cards even have 1.6ns Samsung memory. And because of this, Sapphire supplies X800GTO2 cards now with 16pp (so nothing to mod anymore).

That's what I've read, and thought maybe you're intrested too

But this situation seems to be at least in Finland, I don't know about the other countries.

|EDIT| Oh, some of that info is already listed on the article (update 30st Jan).

grunge · Mar 3, 2006

lixtek said:
Thanks, for your replies! I hope a biosflash will work! Perhabs KGB44 is right and it is a physical thing...but I have to test it with a biosflash.
@superxp : I have a gto2 with an r480, which xt bios would you recommend?
THX for help!

I tried several Bios the 850xt from spphire and powercolor. The problem is my fan always stops working after flashing the bios. Any solutions?

Use ATI Tool to override fan settings and load @ startup via registry key.....sorted!

ajhtiredwolf · Mar 6, 2006

So I did the little test of is my card mod capable for my x800 GTO connect 3d card. It looks like it isn't :-(, here are the results. My question is, is there anything else I can do? Is there another way to mod it?

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Motherboard	Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling	Custom watercooling
Memory	G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB @ 3466MHz CL14 1T
Video Card(s)	EVGA 1080Ti FE. WC'd & TDP limit increased to 360W.
Storage	Samsung 960 Evo 500GB & WD Black 2TB storage drive.
Display(s)	Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" 1440P 165hz Gsync
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
Audio Device(s)	Phillips Fidelio X2 headphones / basic Bose speakers
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 750W G3
Mouse	Logitech G602
Keyboard	Cherry MX Board 6.0 (mx red switches)
Software	Win 10 & Linux Mint
Benchmark Scores	https://hwbot.org/user/infrared

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Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans
Memory	G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
Video Card(s)	ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G
Storage	Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB
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Case	Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case
Audio Device(s)	SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x Power Supply
Mouse	Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition
Keyboard	Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard
Software	Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition
Benchmark Scores	I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming...

System Name	Box of Distraction
Processor	Ryzen 7 1800X
Motherboard	Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling	Custom watercooling
Memory	G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB @ 3466MHz CL14 1T
Video Card(s)	EVGA 1080Ti FE. WC'd & TDP limit increased to 360W.
Storage	Samsung 960 Evo 500GB & WD Black 2TB storage drive.
Display(s)	Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" 1440P 165hz Gsync
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
Audio Device(s)	Phillips Fidelio X2 headphones / basic Bose speakers
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 750W G3
Mouse	Logitech G602
Keyboard	Cherry MX Board 6.0 (mx red switches)
Software	Win 10 & Linux Mint
Benchmark Scores	https://hwbot.org/user/infrared

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Motherboard	EpoX 9NPA+Ultra nForce4 Ultra with Zalman ZM-NB47J
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Memory	1 GB (2x512 MB) DDR400 Corsair XMS C2 series, max 233 MHz @ 2-3-2-9 1T
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Case	Lian Li PC-60B Plus
Audio Device(s)	Built-in Realtek chip
Power Supply	Enermax Noisetaker EG495AX-VE, 485 watts, active PFC
Software	Windows XP Pro SP2, Windows XP Pro x64, Windows Vista RC1 32-bit

System Name	RiseZEN Gaming PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans
Memory	G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
Video Card(s)	ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G
Storage	Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB
Display(s)	ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p
Case	Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case
Audio Device(s)	SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x Power Supply
Mouse	Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition
Keyboard	Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard
Software	Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition
Benchmark Scores	I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming...

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Cooling	Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory	2x512MB GeIL
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Storage	2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s)	HP vs17
Case	SuperTalent
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster
Power Supply	Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt

Processor	Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer
Motherboard	Asus A8V Deluxe Rev. 2.00
Cooling	Zalman CNPS7700-Cu
Memory	2x 512MB A-Data Vitesta DDR500
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Storage	Seagate 7200.7 160GB + 80GB SATA 8MB
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Case	Antec Performance PlusView1000AMG
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
Power Supply	Nexus NX-4090 400W
Software	FreeBSD 6.2 w/ custom kernel

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