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Yes, it's what i thought, the PCI-E frequency is not fast enough to handle the memory bus but, why the hell i got stable with timings just uprising the PCI-E freq and not voltages? If the PCI-E freq just helps the graphics and the communication between PCI-E devices and northbridge, why the hell i was able to do it? Just got luck? There's a relationship?
I don't understand it myself. It makes no sense whatsoever, but if it worked, who cares? lol


That's what i wanted to say, so i specified about messing with i-nodes or File Allocation Tables that can end in corrupt data and it's not a good thing, i didn't want to mean that you'll fry literally your HD, sorry if i did.
Ahh, my bad. I took it as you meaning fry the HD.
 
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Yall can check this guy out, he has beanched diff PCIE frequencys to see what performance gains it would bring. Although its not an extensive test, I still find it somewhat usefull.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=1853805

you can check these threads out as well

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=104497&page=2

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/132872-pcie-frequency.html

From reading all of the above I have to say it simplly verys, probably due to diff Motherboards or something. Some people get benefits some don't, and for some to high and it permentanly destroys there HD while others can run it at the same frequncy wtih no damage done.

I guess its just a hit and miss with this one.
 
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Yeah, but the weird thing is, even if you have the same exact hardware as him, you may not get the same results. PCIe overclocking is a strange beast. lol.

Indeed, I edited my above post saying the same thing.
 
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I was going over this thread, and just wanted to ask what would be a safe set of OC settings for a 24/7 setup (gaming rig).

My Hardware is:
Athlon 6400+ BE
Asus M2N-E SLi (nvidia 500mcp chipset)
Super Talent T800UX1GC4 at 5-5-5-15 at 1.8v (factory default)
Zalman 9500 Pure Copper cooler with Arctic 5 Pure Silver
Thermaltake Wing Rs100 case with 2 120mm fans (intake/exhaust)

I was thinking, maybe to increase the FSB to 215, and leaving everything else default?
Should I leave vdimm and vcore voltages to auto? or should I increase them a little bit manually?
If so, to how much should I increase vcore, and vdimm (this motherboard limits max vdimm voltage to 1.95)

Would this setup be a stable 24/7 setup?

Is ubuntu´s bootable cd memtest a good app to test memory stability? Or should I just go ahead and install other stress test programs.

Thanks in advance! :toast:

Check your PM's.

As far as testing stabiltiy goes I would reccomend useing AMD Overdrive's stabilty test which can be downloaded here on TPU. Go for the latest Beta version of it, its works great at least for me.
 

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I was going over this thread, and just wanted to ask what would be a safe set of OC settings for a 24/7 setup (gaming rig).

My Hardware is:
Athlon 6400+ BE
Asus M2N-E SLi (nvidia 500mcp chipset)
Super Talent T800UX1GC4 at 5-5-5-15 at 1.8v (factory default)
Zalman 9500 Pure Copper cooler with Arctic 5 Pure Silver
Thermaltake Wing Rs100 case with 2 120mm fans (intake/exhaust)

I was thinking, maybe to increase the FSB to 215, and leaving everything else default?
Should I leave vdimm and vcore voltages to auto? or should I increase them a little bit manually?
If so, to how much should I increase vcore, and vdimm (this motherboard limits max vdimm voltage to 1.95)

Would this setup be a stable 24/7 setup?

Is ubuntu´s bootable cd memtest a good app to test memory stability? Or should I just go ahead and install other stress test programs.

Thanks in advance! :toast:
Sent this to you in a PM as well.

Well, I can get you going in the right direction at least. I can't tell you how far you will be able to get, because every single chip is different, but I'll help give you a rough idea.

For vDimm, go ahead and set it to 1.95V. That's safe for even the budget kits.

For Vcore, 1.5V is safe 24/7 IF, and only if the temps are good. Try not to go above 60C. Although I ran mine at around 62, with no I'll side effects, but the lower the better. If it goes too high, lower it to 1.475, then down to 1.45, if necessary.

First, set your ram to 667MHZ in the bios. The ram speed goes up with cpu speed. You only want to test one thing at a time, and setting the ram lower will make it so you aren't overclocking it, and you can focus on finding the cpu max.

Next, lower the HTT multiplier (some boards call it the LDT bus) to 4x (some boards will list it as 800MHz).

Now, set your fsb to 210MHz and test for stability and temps.

For temps, I use CoreTemp: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

For stability testing I either Orthos: http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm

Or OCCT: http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download

I prefer OCCT, as it seems to heat things up a bit more.

If 210 is stable (which it most likely will be), then raise it to 215. If 215 is stable try a few more Mhz. If during your testing, it becomes unstable, back the fsb down 2Mhz, and try again, until it becomes stable again.

After you find the cpu's max, you can set the ram back to 800MHz in the BIOS, and see if it's still stable. If not, you may have to leave it on the 667 setting.
 

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anyone hear if the new phenom has fixed its revision
I hear the r1 sucked for o/c'n and to wait for r2 to come out....?
 

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I possess Asus M3A and I have from larger FSB problem than 250Mhz . not it will give oneself to start already windows.Do then problem of this plate ?
I have paces low.
Someone has on M3A such problem also ?

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I possess Asus M3A and I have from larger FSB problem than 250Mhz . not it will give oneself to start already windows.Do then problem of this plate ?
I have paces low.
Someone has on M3A such problem also ?

ps.sorry my english ;)

Where you from? You can google alta vista and use bable fish to translate your language into English so we can better understand you.

As for your question, I have experinced no such problem with my M3A. What BIOS version do you have.
 
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Soon i'll post all the tests, results and settings that are bringing me out a rough stable 3,54Ghz (295x12) with RAM running at 1180Mhz (5-5-5-15-20-2T)

Right now i'm just finishing the last test, the 24/7 capabilities ... and it's on the good way but since i'm still touching my rig setup (fans, cards) my uptime wasn't more than one day and a half, maybe two ... since i needed that reboots.

Anyway i think it's rough stable, it's been all week this speed ... hard testing, benching and more! Aphex, you're gonna like it! ;)

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Soon i'll post all the tests, results and settings that are bringing me out a rough stable 3,54Ghz (295x12) with RAM running at 1180Mhz (5-5-5-15-20-2T)

Right now i'm just finishing the last test, the 24/7 capabilities ... and it's on the good way but since i'm still touching my rig setup (fans, cards) my uptime wasn't more than one day and a half, maybe two ... since i needed that reboots.

Anyway i think it's rough stable, it's been all week this speed ... hard testing, benching and more! Aphex, you're gonna like it! ;)

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Sweet man, I really hope it works well!!! Looking forward to it!! :toast:

Also I think setting the PCIe Frequency to 116 was to much. I began getting courption errors and BSOD's relating to a courpted HD. When ever I set it back to 100 though things went back to normal. Just telling you my side of the story, must be my RAID setup.:mad:
 
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Sweet man, I really hope it works well!!! Looking forward to it!! :toast:

Also I think setting the PCIe Frequency to 116 was to much. I began getting courption errors and BSOD's relating to a courpted HD. When ever I set it back to 100 though things went back to normal. Just telling you my side of the story, must be my RAID setup.:mad:

Ummm, i didnt had any of that errors (i wasn't using RAID but i'm lucky anyway), feeling sorry for you. Anyway don't worry about it, you could use my settings as long as you want without to worry for that cause it's stable with 100 Mhz locked freq =)
 
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Ummm, i didnt had any of that errors (i wasn't using RAID but i'm lucky anyway), feeling sorry for you. Anyway don't worry about it, you could use my settings as long as you want without to worry for that cause it's stable with 100 Mhz locked freq =)

Sweet, your aswome man.
 
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3,54Ghz stable as far :)

Well, how do i start? First saying thank to all of you. Finally we got this EOL chip to a good end, or for me, at last, it is.

Specially since this was the very first time i overclocked ... for me was a personal challenge between performance and knowledge, and i think after two months i just did some lil scratches, but enough for getting a good OC for 6400+ BE. I have read a lot and tested more ... i get sick of trying high voltages on everything so 2 weeks ago my race started in another direction.

I moved all to stock speeds and lowered the voltages to the minimum (including the Vcore to 1.1V), then started playing to get it stable (on 3200 was it just at Vcore 1.27V) and i've found interesting things, specially related to the 790FX chipset voltages, so i want to warn everyone that maybe this setup won't work for you unless you own that chipset, and of course, take in consideration every chip and cpu is different. Since my mobo has a lot of strange settings that i couldn't understand at all, i read about it and i decided to play just with the good documented ones. I just changed VCore, VRam and all the northbridge voltages that M3A32-MVP Deluxe includes. I moved towards the settings made me stable on stock speeds and pointed to a good almost-safe setup for me, 3-4% lower than i've been able to boot and do some benches, and then trick with voltages to get stable on all tests.

Actual settings:

MOBO: M3A32-MVP Deluxe Wifi/AP with 0801 BIOS

Processor FSB: 295
Processor Multiplier: 12x
PCI-E Freq: 100
Processor Voltage: 1,5250V
HT Multiplier: 800Mhz (4x)
RAM Voltage: 2,30V

Northbridge section:
HyperTransport Voltage: 1,40V
Core/PCI-e: 1,16V
NB PCIE PLL: 2,1V

RAM Divisor: 800Mhz (CPU/6)
RAM Timings: 5-5-5-15-20-2T

rest on auto

Stability Tests done:

- Sandra CPU Burn-In for 3 hours (first test)
- AMD Overdrive for 10 hours (without checking Calculation Test since it's meant just for the Phenoms -wikipedia told me-)
- 3DMark06 in loop test for more than 6 hours and a half
- Hard video encoding while doing light multitask stuff (browsing with some tabs & listening music with iTunes & chatting on different IM's & photoshop CS3 ...)
- Hard video encoding while playing Counter Strike Source at the same time for more than an hour.
- Playing more than 3 hours to CSS.
- wPrime 1.55 1024M
- 2 instances of SuperPi 32M running on each core independently "doing" the light stuff before mentioned (i underscore doing cause it was really hard 100% cpu use, the multitask was slower than usual and also affected to the bench, best score in dual mode for me was in 20 minutes few seconds)
- Running smooth without freezes and w/o forced reboots in almost 24/7 for a week as i said in the previous post, if it fails i'll tell you, but as far as i can see it's rough stable.

One more time, thanks to all, i really hope this works for some other too :)

(see attachments for more details)

ps: idle temps are better than showed, the shots were done just after the tests so water was still hot, right now it's 33-34/27-28ºC on cores giving a 31ºC global CPU temp doing the multitask light stuff including Photoshop. Also don't trust TMPIN2 on SuperPi shot, it's just a sensor issue, all is cool inside mobo. Sorry about the quality on BIOS pics, crap light!
 

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Where you from? You can google alta vista and use bable fish to translate your language into English so we can better understand you.

As for your question, I have experinced no such problem with my M3A. What BIOS version do you have.

My BIOS version 0601 ( date 1/11/2008 )

Temp MB 27C max 29C
CPU 29C max 44C
250 FSB x 14
HT 1000.
DDR2 Kingston 2x2GB 667MHz
Chieftec 500W

More FSB system not load :(
 
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My BIOS version 0601 ( date 1/11/2008 )

Temp MB 27C max 29C
CPU 29C max 44C
250 FSB x 14
HT 1000.
DDR2 Kingston 2x2GB 667MHz
Chieftec 500W

More FSB system not load :(

Update your BIOS to 802 on Asus's website (just google it) or you can try the new not yet released but tested working BIOS 1001 if you like. You can get that here http://rapidshare.com/files/10231842..._WiFi.zip.html
 

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Update your BIOS to 802 on Asus's website (just google it) or you can try the new not yet released but tested working BIOS 1001 if you like. You can get that here http://rapidshare.com/files/10231842..._WiFi.zip.html


Link rapidshare:

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Website asus new bios for AM3 see only :

0702 BIOS for M3A
1. Fixed AM2+ CPU ratio x.5 clock show error.
2. fixed some certain blue ray DVD can't be detected issue.
3. fixed the issue that the system freezing when using some certain VGA card.
 
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Website asus new bios for AM3 see only :

0702 BIOS for M3A
1. Fixed AM2+ CPU ratio x.5 clock show error.
2. fixed some certain blue ray DVD can't be detected issue.
3. fixed the issue that the system freezing when using some certain VGA card.

Sorry try this. http://rapidshare.com/files/102318421/1001_WiFi.zip.html
 
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Motherboard Asus Crosshair V
Cooling XSPC Raystorm 750 EX240 for CPU
Memory 8 GB CORSAIR Vengeance Red DDR3 RAM 1922mhz (10-11-9-27)
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Case HAF X
Audio Device(s) X Fi Titanium 5.1 Surround Sound
Power Supply 750 Watt PP&C Silencer Black
Software Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
Now my BIOS is 0702 :)

Or BIOS of link ( rapidshare ) is safe ?
Work this bios 1001 ?

Well its been working for me and just about everyone else who has this MotherBoard is useing it or going to be useing it on this forum. Its been great for me, but still use it at your own risk. If anything you can just flash back to an older one.
 
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Memory 8 GB CORSAIR Vengeance Red DDR3 RAM 1922mhz (10-11-9-27)
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Power Supply 750 Watt PP&C Silencer Black
Software Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit

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i flashed to the 1102 ver and it worked for a day then started to cause the system to get buggy so i flashed to the 0801... at least it's stable now...
 
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