Ati Catalyst 8.5

Fitseries3 · May 18, 2008

intel igent said:
@ O/P sorry for the mini-jack

dude!

looks like you could have a killer monday if all goes well!

will you be W/C that rig?

TEC cooled by water. with the new setup i should be able to see 5.5ghz on the e8500 at around 3c full load. that's just my estimation though. could be better or worse.

im REALLY hoping the difference between 3 and 4 gpu setups will be significant this time around.

intel igent · May 18, 2008

well if you can get quadfire jammin with a 5ghz+ CPU that would be schweeeeet!

i think to get clocks like that you'll have to go sub ambient

Fitseries3 · May 18, 2008

intel igent said:
i think to get clocks like that you'll have to go sub ambient

UH yeah... that's why im using the TEC. it freezes the chip if i let it. it can cool WELL below 0c/32f... see the attached img. that was with the old setup.. the new setup is capable of a LOT lower temps.

intel igent · May 18, 2008

in ur previous post you said "full load @ around 3c" so was just commenting/questioning that

what would you be using for the TEC setup?

Fitseries3 · May 18, 2008

225watt TEC/Iwaki RD-30/2x TC PA120.3's/Meanwell 24v & 17v Psu's

3c is what the old setup did at full load. that's well below ambient temps of 27-29c

i'll have some pics up on monday.

intel igent · May 18, 2008

nice setup

my bad, i meant to say sub zero :nutkick:

the old setup was cooling which CPU?

Fitseries3 · May 18, 2008

intel igent said:
nice setup

my bad, i meant to say sub zero

the old setup was cooling which CPU?

well... it did the same with both the e8500 and my q6600 and q6700.

CrackerJack · May 18, 2008

Just check in at the ATI website on the drivers. And I get this "The server is temporarily unable to service your request. Please try again later." So there either working on the server or loading the new suite. It only happens when trying to go to the lastest drivers.

eidairaman1 · May 18, 2008

they are still 8.4 drivers.

CrackerJack · May 18, 2008

eidairaman1 said:
they are still 8.4 drivers.

yeah know, i wouldn't expect 8.5 till next week

Gam'ster · May 18, 2008

Thanks crackerjack ill let a friend of mine know bout the new drivers.

And intel igent good to see the cats back " lets do coke " cracks me up :laugh:

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Cheers
Gam

InnocentCriminal · May 18, 2008

Still 8.4 at the moment.

If we see an performance increase with these 8.5's then I expect I should be able to hit just under 10,000 in 3DMark06 with an AGP card.

My current best is 9125. That was in my Shuttle, now I've got a new mobo to test out. So far it's fucked my SATA HDD over so I'm having to recover everything.

However I did have it up to 2.8GHz

eidairaman1 · May 19, 2008

i have the 8.1 hotfix drivers in, i hope the 8.5s are good.

cdawall · May 19, 2008

anyone think 8.5s will beat 8.4s?

eidairaman1 · May 19, 2008

i hope so because i usually wait many months before upgrading drivers.

x2um · May 19, 2008

CrackerJack said:
I don't know extacly what it's going fix. I don't really know what's wrong with the AGP's. What's wrong with them?

I have an ASUS AH6350 on AGP with 512MB DDR2 which has a bloody low performance matched to the old 6600GT with 128MB DDR3.
I have no directx problems whatsoever, BUT....

3DMark2006
HD3650 - 1700 points
6600GT - 1670 points

And here I went nuts...

COUNTER STRIKE SOURCE - Stress test
1440x900 AAx6 AFx16 dx9
model detail - high
texture detail - high
water detail - reflect all
shader detail - high
shadow detail - high
HD3650 - 37.25fps vs. 6600GT - 59.75fps

Crysis - HOC Benchmark - 800x600 Low details
HD3650 - min 5, avg 13, max 24 fps
6600GT - min 19, avg 31, max 62 fps

Crysis - HOC Benchmark - 1024x768 Medium details
HD3650 - min 1, avg 7, max 14 fps
6600GT - min 3, avg 8, max 12 fps

Live For Speed - full details on 1440x900
HD3650 - 15-20fps
6600GT - ~60 fps

This all was benchmarked on A64 3000+@2.3GHz, 3x512MB DDR, MOBO nForce3 250g and WinXP SP2 with Catalist 8.4 + HotFix.
My old 6600GT outperformed the new HD3650 on AGP!!!!
As you see this sucks.

BUT I got really angry and tried the HD3650 AGP on modified XP (Tiny XP - Beast edition from eXPerience), which has all the unnecessary stuff removed from the original XP image.
+ Manually installed just the driver from the last Hotfix (not from catalyst 8.4)
Then I got what I expected from this card.

3DMark2006 up to 2800 points, before I had 1700
CS Source - 101fps vs. 37fps before
Crysis - HOC Benchmark:
800x600 Low details - min 28, avg 40, max 69 fps vs. before: min 5, avg 13, max 24 fps
1024x768 Medium details - min 13, avg 21, max 34 fps vs. before min 1, avg 7, max 14 fps

LFS 1440x900 - 85~90fps before 15~20fps

So afterall I can say that there are two problems:
1. ATI drivers needs to be fixed and finally optimized.
2. Something has to be changed in WinXP too, because I installed just the driver from the last Hotfix into my original WinXP, but no improvements on fps performance.
2800 points in 3DMark2006 I was able to get only with combination of an illegal, cut and tweaked XP and pure drivers from the last Hotfix.

Sorry guys, but this is not the way I want to get the RV630's real performance. So I am hardly waiting for the 8.5 Catalyst too and hope I can have the wished fps rates!!!

eidairaman1 · May 21, 2008

the drivers are out today, no signs of a Hotfix Driver yet.

InnocentCriminal · May 21, 2008

Have you tried them with your X1950 Pro?

I'll be trying them in a bit, downloading now.

CrackerJack · May 21, 2008

InnocentCriminal said:
Have you tried them with your X1950 Pro?

I'll be trying them in a bit, downloading now.

no havent try them yet. i just notice they where up

. Been playing with my network. he he

edit: downloading now, let you know if there's any improvement.

CrackerJack · May 21, 2008

Alright Guys!!!!

Any Improvements???

If you got any, please state your card and improvements (screenie of benchmarks lol)

My Rig:
Athlon 64 5000+ BE 3.2Ghz
6Gb Ram DDR2 800
Radeon HD 2900GT (Single)

8.4 Hotfix

8.5

Little Improvement!!! :banghead:

(BTW Still no crossfire :banghead:

)
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Second Rig:
Athlon 64 4200+ 2.35Ghz
2Gb Ram DDR 200
X1950 Pro 512mb PCI-E

8.4 Hotfix

8.5

Little Improvement Here Either :ohwell:

InnocentCriminal · May 21, 2008

Right, I uninstalled 8.4's and went to install these and it borked my MMC module so now I can't install them or get CCC to work.

I can't find a patch or a fix online, so if anyone could be so help that'd be awesome!

I've tried the regsvr32 command but it doesn't work. So gutted.

CrackerJack · May 21, 2008

InnocentCriminal said:
Right, I uninstalled 8.4's and went to install these and it borked my MMC module so now I can't install them or get CCC to work.

I can't find a patch or a fix online, so if anyone could be so help that'd be awesome!

I've tried the regsvr32 command but it doesn't work. So gutted.

When you went too uninstall it, and when you installed CCC then restart. That's when it gave you the MMC error? Try to force close it and or any ATI stuff. Then try it again. And use DriverCleaner too.

Kreij · May 21, 2008

intel igent said:
why you gotta be a dick and call me "kido" WTF is that?

Wow, Intel, that's a pretty heated response for being called kido.
Good thing he didn't call you a Canook

(just teasing ya man)

On topic: I still haven't gotten around to installing 8.4 yet. :wtf:

I really have to prioritize a little time for computer upgrades.

InnocentCriminal · May 21, 2008

CrackerJack said:
When you went too uninstall it, and when you installed CCC then restart. That's when it gave you the MMC error? Try to force close it and or any ATI stuff. Then try it again. And use DriverCleaner too.

I've done that, but it looks as if the specific DLL files for Device Manager have been corrupted. Which is a major pain. I haven't been able to replace them either. So far, I'm not liking Vista.

I'm going to try reparing booting from my Vista DVD, if that doesn't work I'll just have to install it on my old XP partition. >.<

I have to wait 8 days for Microsoft to send my the hotfix. Why they can't just allow people to download it annoys me so much!

:mad:

Anyone had any luck with AGP cards yet?

intel igent · May 21, 2008

Kreij said:
Wow, Intel, that's a pretty heated response for being called kido.
Good thing he didn't call you a Canook (just teasing ya man)

On topic: I still haven't gotten around to installing 8.4 yet.
I really have to prioritize a little time for computer upgrades.

kreij why you digging up a 3 day old post that has nothing to do with you & i? :confused:

:shadedshu

it was a "heated response", it's over

ON TOPIC

haven't tried the new 8.5's yet still waiting to see how they go

aren't these drivers geared more to the HD3x00 series?

System Name	old school / new school
Processor	3.0e C0 @ 3.6 / e5200
Motherboard	p4p800e-dlx / p5q-DLX
Cooling	custom water see sig / air
Memory	2x1g oczPC4000EbPl / 2x2g ocz2rpr1066
Video Card(s)	3850AGP / 4890vaporX
Storage	36g raptor+120g wd / wd 1001fals 1tb
Display(s)	BenQ / sharpAQUOS LC-37D64U
Case	modded antec plusview / generic
Audio Device(s)	audigy 2zs / ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3
Power Supply	fan/cable modded powerstream 520 / OCZ 700mxsp
Software	Xp pro SP2 / VISTA ultimate OEM

System Name	old school / new school
Processor	3.0e C0 @ 3.6 / e5200
Motherboard	p4p800e-dlx / p5q-DLX
Cooling	custom water see sig / air
Memory	2x1g oczPC4000EbPl / 2x2g ocz2rpr1066
Video Card(s)	3850AGP / 4890vaporX
Storage	36g raptor+120g wd / wd 1001fals 1tb
Display(s)	BenQ / sharpAQUOS LC-37D64U
Case	modded antec plusview / generic
Audio Device(s)	audigy 2zs / ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3
Power Supply	fan/cable modded powerstream 520 / OCZ 700mxsp
Software	Xp pro SP2 / VISTA ultimate OEM

System Name	old school / new school
Processor	3.0e C0 @ 3.6 / e5200
Motherboard	p4p800e-dlx / p5q-DLX
Cooling	custom water see sig / air
Memory	2x1g oczPC4000EbPl / 2x2g ocz2rpr1066
Video Card(s)	3850AGP / 4890vaporX
Storage	36g raptor+120g wd / wd 1001fals 1tb
Display(s)	BenQ / sharpAQUOS LC-37D64U
Case	modded antec plusview / generic
Audio Device(s)	audigy 2zs / ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3
Power Supply	fan/cable modded powerstream 520 / OCZ 700mxsp
Software	Xp pro SP2 / VISTA ultimate OEM

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

System Name	Toshiba L350
Processor	AMD QL-65
Motherboard	Toshiba 780G/SB700
Cooling	Laptop
Memory	3GB
Video Card(s)	ATI HD3000
Storage	250GB
Display(s)	17" Widescreen
Case	Black/Carbon effect
Audio Device(s)	OnBoard
Power Supply	Brick
Software	WIN7

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Processor	Intel Core i7 3770K*
Motherboard	ASUS Maximus V Gene (1155/Z77)
Cooling	Corsair H100i
Memory	16GB Samsung Green 1600MHz DDR3**
Video Card(s)	4GB MSI Gaming X RX480
Storage	256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Display(s)	27" Samsung C27F591FDU
Case	Fractal Design Arc Mini
Power Supply	Corsair HX750W
Software	64bit Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	@ 4.6GHz *@ 2133MHz

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Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage	2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s)	Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s)	Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

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