Phenom 9850BE low voltage overclocking results!

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Welcome back monkey...now get on your homework assignment! You've got a lot of catching up to do!

K

cdawall · Jul 7, 2008

Kei said:
Nope...speaking of serial numbers wall...is that a 9500? That number looks really familiar but I can't find my snap of my 9850 and 9500 serials.

Did you indeed pick up a 9500 Phenom?

K

yes it is and that data would be helpful cause im confused as shit right now all i could do is get it to boot at stock no oc at all right now

new ram wont even go over to default timings which are 4-4-4-12@800mhz :banghead:

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Okay, do you have AOD on your computer right now? Also are you using a bios with Northbridge overclocking options (is there a Northbridge multiplier option)?

If yes to both questions then what color is the circle in AOD in the upper right corner, you don't actually need AOD to do anything except tell you that so don't change any settings. If no to the Northbridge then we can still change the multiplier but it'll mean changing some things in the registry if that's okay with you...you'll also have it run at each startup.

K

Viscarious · Jul 7, 2008

Going to try out the max HT bus at 8X....be back later

cdawall · Jul 7, 2008

Kei said:
Okay, do you have AOD on your computer right now? Also are you using a bios with Northbridge overclocking options (is there a Northbridge multiplier option)?

If yes to both questions then what color is the circle in AOD in the upper right corner, you don't actually need AOD to do anything except tell you that so don't change any settings. If no to the Northbridge then we can still change the multiplier but it'll mean changing some things in the registry if that's okay with you...you'll also have it run at each startup.

K

AOD didnt work last time i tried it but that was when i had my 5000BE installed will try it again when i get home from work

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Koo, as long as it'll start you can tell me what color the circle in the top corner is and that's all I need to know. If it's green then we can change that and make it much faster w/o doing anything really, yellow is more than good enough, and red though the 'fastest' is completely pointless on that cpu as it'll just raise the temp and give you no noticable speed.

Also due to the TLB issue with those models red is also not encouraged as yellow is more than enough anyway. The highest I had mine was 2.7xGhz (can't remember the exact number but it was higher than 2.7Ghz) and I was using 2.55Ghz or 2.6Ghz for my daily setting at a very easy voltage of 1.25v

I've included a few pics of some of the settings I used to run with it...

We definately need to know how high you can go HT Bus speed wise in order to find what we can expect out of this chip. I believe my max on the MSI 790x board I used with that chip (also used it on this ASUS 790FX board) was 272Mhz. The ASUS would go far higher (283Mhz I believe...maybe more) but I wasn't using the most beast ram so I had to limit the HT Bus speed.

Also remember that this chip uses a 9x multiplier (1.8Ghz) for the HT Link and Northbridge unlike the 9850 (the only chip that uses the 10x 2.0Ghz setting...well the 9950 now as well). I was able to achieve a max of 2.25Ghz Northbridge (9x multi) stable before I stopped testing as I was content. The HT Link I ran at 2.0Ghz (8x multi) to keep things stable.

K

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Also remember that for stability testing be careful stressing the cache as you may trigger the TLB bug if all four cores are stressed at 100% and get a false fail of the clock you're testing. The TLB is not a plague though as it's pretty damn rare to actually occur (you need to be really trying for most people).

I'm not certain if you can do this but you MAY be able to disable Cache Mapping (green mode) in your bios and still use CPU Tweak (red mode) and get a middle ground workaround to avoid the TLB altogether which would be sweet. I never tried that...just thought of it now though I wouldn't worry about the TLB anyway as it wasn't a problem for me and I do huge amounts of testing.

K

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

HOLY $HIT!

cdwall you might be pissed about this...new price drop get 'em before they're discontinued!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103249

K

cdawall · Jul 7, 2008

Kei said:
HOLY $HIT!

cdwall you might be pissed about this...new price drop get 'em before they're discontinued!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103249

K

mine was still much much cheaper

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Koo, I was hoping/thinking so else I'd be pissed haha. They even give you free shipping WITH a game! That's insane!

K

Viscarious · Jul 7, 2008

Alright!! Heres the results without volt changes...

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Viscarious said:
Alright!! Heres the results without volt changes...

HOLY SWEET JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm now officially extremely jealous of you! :toast:

I need to find that UPS truck and stop the shipping...you might be able to get better results with the video card too! Haha...sweet sweet SWEET result man, I think I'm gonna be low man on the totem pole this time around it seems. Weird though as I don't believe those with higher HT Bus speeds can clock higher than I can...

Anyway, what ram are you guys using, what OS, etc. so we all know what went into making that insane magic you've got!

K

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

At least I hold the record for going the highest at my max HT Bus speed with multipliers...all the way to 11.5x and I can pass post at 12.0 and 12.5x multiplier just can't get them into windows sadly.

I really do wonder what exactly is holding my chip back sometimes from getting the 3.2Ghz+ clocks as I can pass post on them pretty damn easy...even at stock volts as you can see (266*12.5x is 3.32Ghz). Oh well...no more trying to rain on your parade! :toast:

K

Chicken Patty · Jul 7, 2008

cdawall said:
my new toy showed up

congrats. now put it on and tell us what it feels like!!! :toast:

Viscarious · Jul 7, 2008

It is a good ht bus!

Im using Windows Vista 64 bit SP1 and I have 2 gigs of crucial ballistix rated for 1066mhz and 2 gigs of crucial ballistix tracers rated for 800mhz. I use both sets at 800mhz normally but ran them 400mhz for those tests.

cdawall · Jul 7, 2008

Chicken Patty said:
congrats. now put it on and tell us what it feels like!!!

its in but im at work so ill give you more info later

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Are you using Ultimate or Premium Vista as you know I want to move up real real real soon like just don't know if I want to go with Ultimate or Premium this time. I'm already using Ultimate 32 right now and I love it but I don't think it has much that I'd miss over the Premium version except the uber cool black box...I think? Oh yea, I also have SP1 though SP1 for Vista64 was apprently hands down the best upgrade of all the Windows upgrades last run.

Your setup is much like mine with the ram as I've got the Patriot Extreme's rated for 1150Mhz and GeIL's rated for 800Mhz. I run them both at 800Mhz normally as well but I'm about to replace the GeIL's with more Patriot's so I can run the crazy 3-4-3 timings on more than just 2Gigs of ram.

K

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

cdawall said:
its in but im at work so ill give you more info later

You look a little under the weather so go home immediately...I'll even write you a note :shadedshu

K

kenkickr · Jul 7, 2008

They did have them up to $243 with free shipping so I guess they have the 9950's in the house now. That's one thing that has really pissed me off about the Egg...They jack prices up for a short while and most of the time they just come back down to their normal price. I've been looking at zipzoomfly alot more lately.

Kei · Jul 7, 2008

Humph...that's interesting I bought mine for $235 when they first came out and I'm pretty religious on shopping at newegg now. I didn't get free shipping but then again...ummm I'm different when it comes to shipping as I don't care if I have to get it from overseas I'll pay overnight shipping anyway every single time. Weird huh...I'm the most patient guy in the world...except when it comes time to pay for shipping then I want my stuff in 30 minutes or less.

I haven't noticed any unusual price jumping at newegg besides the regular get them the first day prices that everyone does, meh oh well I guess I'm gonna check out zipzoomfly (wild name haha) too.

K

Viscarious · Jul 8, 2008

Sorry, vista home premium. I didn't need anything from ultimate so I just 'grabbed' home premium.

Also, I cant get 10x with anymore voltage. I come into a wall when trying to go past 2.8ghz. Weird...

BTW, with that setup posted above, I scored 11890 in 3Dmark06.

And damn Kei. That sounds like a nice rx7. (sorry to respond here

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Viscarious · Jul 8, 2008

I think I just need to either go back to that setup and try to push all the bit and peices as far as they can go. Like memory speed and timings. What would you say to do Kei, on the 293x9.5 setup?

kenkickr · Jul 8, 2008

Well, I made it a little lower @ 2.8Ghz. Posted is a snippy. Kei, I love cars!! Do you have a pic you can send my way or do you have it posted somewhere?

SirKeldon · Jul 8, 2008

It is stable at that speed with that low low voltage??? It's a great clocking kenkickr, congratulations!

:toast:

servermonkey · Jul 8, 2008

Kei said:
Welcome back monkey...now get on your homework assignment! You've got a lot of catching up to do!

K

am i correct in guessing my h/w is max fsb?

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Motherboard	ASUS STRIX X670E-E Wi-Fi
Cooling	EK Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux-D-RGB
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws DDR5 6000Mhz CL36 32GB (2x16)
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Storage	1Tb Samsung 860 SSD, twin 2TB Samsung nvme drives
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Power Supply	EVGA P3 1000w
Mouse	Logitech G9x (awesome!)
Keyboard	Logitech G105
VR HMD	Pimax 5k+
Software	Windows 10 64Bit
Benchmark Scores	CPU-Z 698s/7465m (7800x3D result)

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Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage	2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
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Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s)	Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

System Name	...no name yet
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7800x3D
Motherboard	ASUS STRIX X670E-E Wi-Fi
Cooling	EK Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux-D-RGB
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws DDR5 6000Mhz CL36 32GB (2x16)
Video Card(s)	MSI 4090 Gaming Trio
Storage	1Tb Samsung 860 SSD, twin 2TB Samsung nvme drives
Display(s)	Asus ROG Swift PG279Q IPS gsync 2k
Case	Thermaltake P5 wall mounted and backlit with Corsair lighting node pro
Power Supply	EVGA P3 1000w
Mouse	Logitech G9x (awesome!)
Keyboard	Logitech G105
VR HMD	Pimax 5k+
Software	Windows 10 64Bit
Benchmark Scores	CPU-Z 698s/7465m (7800x3D result)

Processor	AMD Phenom 9850BE
Motherboard	ASUS M3A32MVP Deluxe 790FX
Cooling	ZALMAN CNPS9700
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Tracers 4G (1G x 4) 800Mhz CAS4
Video Card(s)	VisionTek HD3870 + a VisionTek HD3870 OC Edition Xfire'd
Storage	320G WD SATA + 160G
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Case	Raidmax Ninja
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer
Power Supply	650W Antec Earthwatts
Software	Windows Vista 64bit SP1
Benchmark Scores	candle_86 is a fanboi

System Name	All the cores
Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage	2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s)	Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s)	Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
Cooling	ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB // X12 Phanteks D30-120 D-RGB Fans
Memory	G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30
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Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1200, 1200W 80+ Gold, ATX 3.0
Software	Windows 11 Pro

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Storage	Kingston Fury 2TB and 4TB NVME
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Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1000w SFX-L
Mouse	Corsair Dark Core RGB SE
Keyboard	Corsair K95 Platnium
Software	Win 11 Pro

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Cooling	Custom Full Loop w/EKWB & Swiftech components
Memory	32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz (C15)
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Case	Thermaltake Core V51
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Power Supply	Corsair RM750 (ver. 2019)
Mouse	Logitech G700s
Keyboard	Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2
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Processor	amd phenom II 940 @ 3842
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Storage	wdc 150gb raptor
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Power Supply	coolmax 1100w + visiontek 450w (for the boreas)
Benchmark Scores	19778 3dmark http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9709800

Phenom 9850BE low voltage overclocking results!

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