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Koo, did you see the 790GX boards are finally making their way onto Newegg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ken just posted that Gigabyte has their board officially for sale!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128352

WAHOO! Now where are the rest of them...I'm getting really really excited now c'mon! H2O can wait a bit. :D:D:D

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Wow! Only $140?? I can only hope that Asus makes a equal board for around that price. Would be cool.
 

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This should answer your prayers, though I'm not sure about the price yet. I imagine it'll be within a few dollars just like when Gigabyte brought out their 780G board (the hybrid crossfire board) and ASUS matched them again.

Those two companies are after each other lately and wait til the very last second for the other one to make a move so they can match. I expect the ASUS board on the site tonight, maybe tomorrow and that's the one I'm waiting for. DFI also has some boards coming which also interest me.

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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7878&Itemid=69
 

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Alrighty. So that looks nice! But three video cards slots, eh? Hrmm...

Oh and do you notice that the asus doesnt have 8pin power slot. Just four. Odd.
 

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Nice the GX's are starting to show up..

Waiting to see what DFI and Asus put out...

That one only has 8x PCI-e lanes... yucky..
 

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Yea the 8 pin was one of the first things I looked for when the boards were announced. I think it'll be okay considering what the Foxconn board could do as far as overclocking, we all know they aren't known for making the best overclocking boards so no worries.

All of the boards have already been shown at Computex I'm just waiting to see the pricing. The 790FX boards with the SB750 should be out as well as they're both slated for release at the same time for those that want that instead.

As for the 8x PCI-E lanes, I don't mind since I'm using a single card anyway plus 8x really isn't a big drawback considering how much bandwidth we have anyway. I've seen a few reviews of the difference between 1,4,8,and 16x and you really don't notice anything until 4x so we're more than good.

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Oh yea, as for the 3 video card slots...it's not a first as DFI did it with their M2RS 790FX board as well.

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All but the foxconn are x8 crossfire. wtf? I know you say its not a big deal but maybe it is. Im panicking.
 

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Yea Cracker said it drops a little performance so I'm gonna test that now. Be back in a bit...

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PCI-E Lane Width testing

Okay so since we've got a few people worried over the 8x vs. 16x Lane Width difference when using Crossfire X on the new GX boards I decided to do some testing to try to help clear things up.

I used 3dmark06, Furbench, and GTR2 for testing the difference Lane Widths...

I'm convinced that it will make little to no difference when going from 16x to 8x lane width after my testing. Please remember that the only time you'll be locked in at 8x is when using Crossfire so those who use a single card shouldn't even pay this any attention as it matters for you even less.

I've attatched 4 screen shots (2 3dmark and 2 furbench) so that you can see the difference in scores between the two settings. I did not take screenshots when running GTR2 so you'll have to go on my word for the results.

I ran my usual GTR2 personal benchmark of...

Saved replay at Spa 2003 track with full in car dash view
AI Driven cars to remove human input changing the outcome
My AI car starting at the back of the Grid to ensure that all cars can be seen
100% Full details on every option in the game (including all Advanced visual options)
16 cars on track
23:00hrs gametime (full on night time)
100% rain weather
4xAA
16xAF
Adaptive AA
Triple Buffering

The benchmark is done with FRAPS starting as soon as the cars get the green flag and automatically ends 180 seconds after starting. The final results for the test were as follows...

PCI-E 16X ----- PCI-E 8X
28fps --------- 29fps

That shows that even ingame the difference is highly unlikely to be noticed. 3dmark06 results were only 44 points higher with 16x setting. Furbench results were only 9 marks higher with 16x setting.

I hope this helps those who are wondering/worried about choosing one of the 790GX/SB750 boards over the higher priced 790FX/SB750 boards.

K

EDIT: All 3dmark06 and Furbench tests were done at 1360*768 resolution.
 

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Oh wow! You were 100% correct! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. I will never doubt you again! :respect:
 

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DAMN VIS! You're like a shark! That has to be the quickest reply I've ever seen!

K

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Nice work..

But I'll wait on the higher end Asus MB's.. They will start showing up soon..
 
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hey Kei! im up to 3.3ghz, had to increase voltage to 1.41v, @ 1.26/1.25v i can only go up to 3.1ghz. probably at 1.45v i think i can hit the 3.4 :)

Nice man, It took me 1.440v to hit 3350Ghz. I tried hitting 3.4Ghz but it was late as heck already and I'll just try it another day.


 
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Danger den has the HW labs line of rads. and they work fine. The GTX line is the best from HW Labs, I would stay away from the stealth and pro line. They are very thin and would not cool as well. I use the Extreme line and have great temps. You would need high CFM fans for both the GTX and BIX lines.

Thermochill also makes a nice rad.

www.jab-tech.com

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/

http://www.petrastechshop.com/

www.frozencpu.com

Thanks bro. For now I think i'm going to get a black ice xtreme II.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=2&cat=85&page=1

This should handle my card and CPU just fine. I plan on getting the lian li PC-P80 case, which they offer a 2 120mm fan vent on the top, so then I can just mount my rad there. When I get the 4870x2's they will be on air, as there will be no water block for it. If I then decide to cool the card (s) also then I can purchase a seperate radiator and mount it elsewhere with a new set of pump and reservoir.

Also, what fans do you recommend for that radiator?
 
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The Asus are the same. 8x for crossfire. Take a look at the reviews on Kei's post a few back.

Yes, Kei. I was waiting anxiously for the results!
 

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Final Assurance...PCI-E 4x testing

I figured since I said you'd only notice a bit of difference when running as low as 4x I may as well add some fact to that statement.

GTR2 results for the exact same benchmark outlined above...28fps (lost 1fps :laugh:)

3dmark06 and Furbench results are attatched to this post as well. For those that only use their controllers/wheel/keyboards to play benchmarks you may wish to skip these boards. For the rest of us that play games and do other things do not worry...pass go and recieve an awesome board. (monopoly pun intended)

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I figured since I said you'd only notice a bit of difference when running as low as 4x I may as well add some fact to that statement.

GTR2 results for the exact same benchmark outlined above...28fps (lost 1fps :laugh:)

3dmark06 and Furbench results are attatched to this post as well. For those that only use their controllers/wheel/keyboards to play benchmarks you may wish to skip these boards. For the rest of us that play games and do other things do not worry...pass go and recieve an awesome board. (monopoly pun intended)

K <---Certified mythbuster (should work for discovery channel) :p

Rofl, yes! Ok thats great news! :D
 
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I'd say 1.35v is about all that'd be needed, but depending on the clock maybe more. Here is a very old screenshot of doing 3.1Ghz testing with Kuma (excessive voltage as I just wanted to get a test in and not worry about errors).

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Thank you! Also, would you know why my mobo is at 44C??? i've got everything at lowest volts...wtf??:confused::twitch:
 

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Thank you! Also, would you know why my mobo is at 44C??? i've got everything at lowest volts...wtf??:confused::twitch:

Holy wow batman! Are you sure you didn't mistake an option in the bios for something else and set the voltage incorrectly? Do you have any fans not running ummm....anything different? My board has never been that temp no matter what settings I've set, as a matter of fact I believe the highest I've ever seen my board at is 38C period!

Maybe whatever program you're using just read the temp incorrectly is all.

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Cooling EK Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux-D-RGB
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws DDR5 6000Mhz CL36 32GB (2x16)
Video Card(s) MSI 4090 Gaming Trio
Storage 1Tb Samsung 860 SSD, twin 2TB Samsung nvme drives
Display(s) Asus ROG Swift PG279Q IPS gsync 2k
Case Thermaltake P5 wall mounted and backlit with Corsair lighting node pro
Power Supply EVGA P3 1000w
Mouse Logitech G9x (awesome!)
Keyboard Logitech G105
VR HMD Pimax 5k+
Software Windows 10 64Bit
Benchmark Scores CPU-Z 698s/7465m (7800x3D result)
Weird, maybe there is a setting that's incorrect in the bios or something because that's indeed higher than any temp I've seen. What is your temp normally?

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Benchmark Scores candle_86 is a fanboi
Not sure, I never really watch before. Im goign to set a default BIOS and see what the temps are.
 
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