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ex_reven · Apr 21, 2008

Kovoet said:
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enlarge the typeface

EastCoasthandle · Apr 23, 2008

Is it possible to screen capture the same scene from 1 game using 2 different video cards and get the exact same file size using bmp?

ex_reven · Apr 23, 2008

EastCoasthandle said:
Is it possible to screen capture the same scene from 1 game from 2 different video cards and get the exact same file size using bmp?

If you did one and the two screen captures took a snapshot of the exact same frame in the game and didnt lag out, the two files would be identical in size since they contain the same number of pixels, resolution and colours used.

Your two problems will be: getting the screenshot at that precise moment of the game and perhaps the difference in colour interpretations presented by the two cards, since the colours used will ultimately impact on the size of the graphic.

Assuming that your two graphics cards have no difference in colour presentation, and that the screenshot occurs at precisely the same moment in the game (at the same resolution etc) then the file sizes should theoretically be the same.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 23, 2008

ex_reven said:
If you did one and the two screen captures took a snapshot of the exact same frame in the game and didnt lag out, the two files would be identical in size since they contain the same number of pixels, resolution and colours used.

Your two problems will be: getting the screenshot at that precise moment of the game and perhaps the difference in colour interpretations presented by the two cards, since the colours used will ultimately impact on the size of the graphic.

Assuming that your two graphics cards have no difference in colour presentation, and that the screenshot occurs at precisely the same moment in the game (at the same resolution etc) then the file sizes should theoretically be the same.

Thanks for the information. So what your saying is that if the images are slightly different (the screenshots do show the image rendered differently between video cards) then it's impossible to have the exact same files size using BMP? I ask because it's the first time I noticed a situation were both screenshots show the exact same file size when I check under properties.

ex_reven · Apr 23, 2008

EastCoasthandle said:
Thanks for the information. So what your saying is that if the images are slightly different (the screenshots do show the image rendered differently between video cards) then it's impossible to have the exact same files size using BMP? I ask because it's the first time I noticed a situation were both screenshots show the exact same file size when I check under properties.

Not impossible. Just unlikely.
Though as long as the amount of colour in the image is uniform to the other image, the file size should be similar. If I remember my computing class correctly, black and white pixels use a heap less space, since the pixel is either on or off. Colour pixels should, (if my thinking is correct) take up a whole lot more space than a simple black or white pixel. So that will be the difference given by the way the card renders the image. Not a big difference, but one nonetheless.

Keep in mind however, that an in game screenshot often tries to keep image sizes identical by applying some degree of compression.

PVTCaboose1337 · Apr 23, 2008

Very slim that they are the same though. I cannot even get two of the same images on the same computer so...

Example: Environmental variables can change. In Crysis, lets say you load from a save and the leaves move a different way. That could change it.

EastCoasthandle · Apr 23, 2008

Is there way to use PS to determine when the file was created or other important details?

ex_reven · Apr 23, 2008

Any information regarding when the file was created, its author, date/time, name etc should be available when you right click the file and click on properties. Photoshop cant magically conjure up information from thin air, it has to be already embedded into the file.

So if there isnt any information in the image properties dialogue, photoshop probably wont help you lol. :roll:

PVTCaboose1337 · Apr 23, 2008

Yes there is. Each computer leaves a fingerprint on the file if it touches it. So if I cycle a photo through each computer I have, the fingerprint from all the computer is recorded in the file.

ex_reven · Apr 23, 2008

PVTCaboose1337 said:
Yes there is. Each computer leaves a fingerprint on the file if it touches it. So if I cycle a photo through each computer I have, the fingerprint from all the computer is recorded in the file.

Are you referring to modification dates etc?
Or something else?

EastCoasthandle · Apr 23, 2008

PVTCaboose1337 said:
Very slim that they are the same though. I cannot even get two of the same images on the same computer so...

Example: Environmental variables can change. In Crysis, lets say you load from a save and the leaves move a different way. That could change it.

That was my thinking as well but to have 2 of the exact same files sizes using this procedure :wtf:

ex_reven · Apr 23, 2008

EastCoasthandle said:
That was my thinking as well but to have 2 of the exact same files sizes using this procedure

The image doesnt have to be identical to result in identical size. The ELEMENTS of the image have to be similar though. A non identical distribution with roughly the same overall number of rgb colour/ and non rgb pixels (white/black/grey) will yield a similar file size.

PVTCaboose1337 · May 12, 2008

For rangerone:

Attached.

Kovoet · May 17, 2008

For someone else

CrackerJack · May 17, 2008

^nice!

can some make one for me.

i like to have one that has: ATI Crossfire, AMD, CrackerJack, TPU Logo and Gigabyte. And if there's room ADATA and Hiper. lol

Kovoet · May 25, 2008

First come forst serve, all its looking for now is a name.

Black Panther · Jul 14, 2008

Anyone volunteers to make a signature based on my present text signature?

I will put credit below the signature to reflect the author's efforts.

Thanks! :respect:

PVTCaboose1337 · Aug 21, 2008

Black Panther said:
Anyone volunteers to make a signature based on my present text signature?

I will put credit below the signature to reflect the author's efforts.

Thanks!

I would be glad to if you kindly PM me.

Also, here is the signature for DonInKansas.

PVTCaboose1337 · Aug 21, 2008

Another request from paulieg.

Red spices it up.

DonInKansas · Aug 21, 2008

PVTCaboose1337 said:
I would be glad to if you kindly PM me.

Also, here is the signature for DonInKansas.

Awesome work! Thanks!

I can't believe I forgot to tell you to throw in a Jayhawk too :laugh:

PVTCaboose1337 · Aug 22, 2008

Voila. Choose wisely (choose a)

PaulieG · Aug 22, 2008

PVTCaboose1337 said:
Voila. Choose wisely (choose a)

LOL. Actually, chose b. :laugh:

Thanks alot man. Really nice sig.

imperialreign · Aug 23, 2008

I might as well join up and sample some of my works:

some avatars I've made:

sigs:

other:

(removed release date, studio information)

I've got more examples around, I've just got to dig them up first

panchoman · Aug 23, 2008

just finished my avvy/siggy combo from photoshop

Polaris573 · Aug 23, 2008

Too bad the signature picture is too large. I won't send you a warning if it stays removed once I remove it. Remember the size constraints are supposed to be 500x100 px and 19.5 KB. Use the signature picture upload feature in your signature options section of user CP to avoid this problem. Although I'm fairly sure you knew that as much time as you spend here. :slap:

Use the save for web feature of photoshop to compress it down to less than 19.5 KB without too much loss in quality, but you'll have to re-design it to be 100 px or fewer tall.

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