q6600 vs e7200

ChromeDome · Sep 28, 2008

fitseries3 said:
he already has a dell from what i gather. get a 4850, they come with a power cable adapter and most newer dells have the pci-e connector anyway so you should be fine. i would keep the e6600 as it would be on a similar level as the e72 and a q66 wont benefit you much from what i can tell.

oh is that right. so he has a Dell?

yeah keep the Dell for now then, dude. you'll be buying a new computer for nothing

we can help you upgrade your Dell and save you HUUNDREDS

then when the new intel chips finally hit Dell you can get one of those when prices drop

i don't think w/e you are looking at would be much of an "upgrade" the q6600 or e7200

so keep the e6600, upgrade the power supply if need be, and add more stuff to your computer. like a new vid card

Damian^ · Sep 28, 2008

DrPepper said:
The q66 has 8mb L2 Cache in total. Even if the e7200 has more cache (i'm not sure) the quad does have another 2 cores.

yes but most games do not use those extra two cores.

wordlessjam · Sep 28, 2008

no i dont have the dell yet. but i want to get an inspiron 530 with either e7200 or q6600,
4GB DDR2 RAM, 500BG 7200rpm hard drive and im not sure what graphics card to get but i dont want an expensive one that will require a new psu. cos i want to spend as little as possible but get a decent machine for what i want as i am going to uni soon and want to get a laptop.

Fitseries3 · Sep 28, 2008

you could build a computer yourself cheaper than buying a dell.

ChromeDome · Sep 28, 2008

fitseries3 said:
you could build a computer yourself cheaper than buying a dell.

so many good ways to build a good computer these days. intel, AMD, just lots of good stuff out there for pretty cheap

wordlessjam said:
no i dont have the dell yet. but i want to get an inspiron 530 with either e7200 or q6600,
4GB DDR2 RAM, 500BG 7200rpm hard drive and im not sure what graphics card to get but i dont want an expensive one that will require a new psu. cos i want to spend as little as possible but get a decent machine for what i want as i am going to uni soon and want to get a laptop.

anyway TS if you're going to get the Dell don't worry too much about the power supply. i believe the q6600comes with a 350w supply with a 6 pin pci e connector. could be wrong but i'm pretty sure. the e7200 probably with a 300w supply, no pci e connector

the friend who's Dell i upgraded had a 300w supply in an ispiron. he has an e6550. he had to disconnect one dvd drive to be able to free up two connectors for his 8800GT, but it ran fine with the 300w supply. overclocked, too

he wanted to add another hard drive and reconnect his DVD drive so i upgraded the psu for him. otherwise he was doing fine

i know you don't want to spend much money atm, but when you can if you upgrade your psu on the new Dell it will make it so much more expandable. you don't have to spend a lot. around $60 (sometimes less) can get you a good quality 500w psu with lots of connectors for upgrades. i'd highly recommend it when possible

also if you're still worried about power draw a 9500GT video card would be fine for "lite" gaming. Sims 2, older games, some newer. especially at 1440X900

no extra power connector required. the 4650 might be the same i dunno. so far as connectivity, i mean

NinkobEi · Sep 28, 2008

fitseries3 said:
you could build a computer yourself cheaper than buying a dell.

just tried to build an e8400 pc at dell...$1600

price I payed for same(better psu, mobo, vid card) : $900

DrPepper · Sep 28, 2008

Damian^ said:
yes but most games do not use those extra two cores.

I'd rather have more cores than cache.

wordlessjam · Sep 28, 2008

ok thanks. i think the 4670 doesnt need any extra power and isnt that better than the 9500GT? so what do u recomment i get the cheaper e7200 or the £50 more expensive q6600? i will be "lite" gaming and thats it but i will mulit-task with music listening, photo viewing slight editing, internet and IM. so would the quad be better?

DrPepper · Sep 28, 2008

wordlessjam said:
ok thanks. i think the 4670 doesnt need any extra power and isnt that better than the 9500GT? so what do u recomment i get the cheaper e7200 or the £50 more expensive q6600? i will be "lite" gaming and thats it but i will mulit-task with music listening, photo viewing slight editing, internet and IM. so would the quad be better?

As I said i find that the extra two cores are still better than most if not all duals.

ChromeDome · Sep 28, 2008

wordlessjam said:
ok thanks. i think the 4670 doesnt need any extra power and isnt that better than the 9500GT? so what do u recomment i get the cheaper e7200 or the £50 more expensive q6600? i will be "lite" gaming and thats it but i will mulit-task with music listening, photo viewing slight editing, internet and IM. so would the quad be better?

yeah the 4670 is better then the 9500GT. you should be ok with that. i'm not sure what its power requirements are but according to this they are fairly modest:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4670/12.html

so far as the processor for your needs and down the road a bit the q6600 is the more dynamic and flexible processor. so to speak. you should be happy with it. although money wise its not worth the premium you are paying over the e7200.

Dell really sticks it to you in this regard

lemonadesoda · Sep 28, 2008

People say E7200 is better for gaming, because games are single threaded and you can get a higher OC on the E7200 than the Q6600.

HOWEVER, in practice, this just isnt true:

1./ If you look at benchmarks, once you are over 2Ghz Core 2, its the GPU and not the CPU that is the bottleneck. Many benchmarks show THE SAME frames per second no matter what OC you run. Its GPU limited.

2./ Many games have "loads", and if the load is a compressed asset, like a map, the CPU must uncompress it first. A Q will out-unzip an E in all situations, so your map loads are faster on a Q even if the clocks are a bit slower.

3./ It's going to happen... while you are playing a game, some system "service" will do some housekeeping. Having a Q means NO micro-lag whereas an E might do a little pause-for-thought. How to see this, look at benchmark's MINIMUM frame rates, not average.

4./ More and more games are going multithreaded. If you get a Q you are somewhat futureproofed. With the E, you will get faster SuperPIs, but with multithreaded games, the Q can do more calcs per second.

5./ Tomorrow's architecture is Nehalem. That's 8 cores. A single threaded app is only 5% faster than Core 2 clock for clock. That means games designers MUST program multithread in the future... they wont get more single thread performance on next gen.

6./ Q is a cooler letter than E. :roll:

oli_ramsay · Sep 28, 2008

lemonadesoda said:
People say E7200 is better for gaming, because games are single threaded and you can get a higher OC on the E7200 than the Q6600.

HOWEVER, in practice, this just isnt true:

1./ If you look at benchmarks, once you are over 2Ghz Core 2, its the GPU and not the CPU that is the bottleneck. Many benchmarks show THE SAME frames per second no matter what OC you run. Its GPU limited.

2./ Many games have "loads", and if the load is a compressed asset, like a map, the CPU must uncompress it first. A Q will out-unzip an E in all situations, so your map loads are faster on a Q even if the clocks are a bit slower.

3./ It's going to happen... while you are playing a game, some system "service" will do some housekeeping. Having a Q means NO micro-lag whereas an E might do a little pause-for-thought. How to see this, look at benchmark's MINIMUM frame rates, not average.

4./ More and more games are going multithreaded. If you get a Q you are somewhat futureproofed. With the E, you will get faster SuperPIs, but with multithreaded games, the Q can do more calcs per second.

5./ Tomorrow's architecture is Nehalem. That's 8 cores. A single threaded app is only 5% faster than Core 2 clock for clock. That means games designers MUST program multithread in the future... they wont get more single thread performance on next gen.

6./ Q is a cooler letter than E.

Based on point 6 alone I'd definately go for the quad :laugh:

But seriously, if I were you I'd build one for yourself and save a whole load of money as Ninkobwi says. Dell=fail, self built PC=win, simple equation

erocker · Sep 28, 2008

lemonadesoda said:
People say E7200 is better for gaming, because games are single threaded and you can get a higher OC on the E7200 than the Q6600.

HOWEVER, in practice, this just isnt true:

1./ If you look at benchmarks, once you are over 2Ghz Core 2, its the GPU and not the CPU that is the bottleneck. Many benchmarks show THE SAME frames per second no matter what OC you run. Its GPU limited.

2./ Many games have "loads", and if the load is a compressed asset, like a map, the CPU must uncompress it first. A Q will out-unzip an E in all situations, so your map loads are faster on a Q even if the clocks are a bit slower.

3./ It's going to happen... while you are playing a game, some system "service" will do some housekeeping. Having a Q means NO micro-lag whereas an E might do a little pause-for-thought. How to see this, look at benchmark's MINIMUM frame rates, not average.

4./ More and more games are going multithreaded. If you get a Q you are somewhat futureproofed. With the E, you will get faster SuperPIs, but with multithreaded games, the Q can do more calcs per second.

5./ Tomorrow's architecture is Nehalem. That's 8 cores. A single threaded app is only 5% faster than Core 2 clock for clock. That means games designers MUST program multithread in the future... they wont get more single thread performance on next gen.

6./ Q is a cooler letter than E.

Agreed all the way! :toast:

The only reason I can see going with the e7200 over the q6600 is price and it's a bit easier to get the dual core chip running at a higher clock.

wordlessjam · Sep 28, 2008

erocker said:
Agreed all the way! The only reason I can see going with the e7200 over the q6600 is price and it's a bit easier to get the dual core chip running at a higher clock.

well i wont be overclocking so there we go! i looked at the prices for building one myself about the same spec as this but it always comes out to be more expensive. and plus i dont know how to build a pc. so i think it has been decided that i will get the q6600.

thank you all very much with your help its has been great! :toast:

NinkobEi · Sep 28, 2008

the thing with building one yourself is that you get higher quality products..but seeing you wont be overclocking any, the better mobo probably wouldnt help ya much.

Kwod · Sep 29, 2008

lemonadesoda said:
People say E7200 is better for gaming, because games are single threaded and you can get a higher OC on the E7200 than the Q6600.

HOWEVER, in practice, this just isnt true:

1./ If you look at benchmarks, once you are over 2Ghz Core 2, its the GPU and not the CPU that is the bottleneck. Many benchmarks show THE SAME frames per second no matter what OC you run. Its GPU limited.

2./ Many games have "loads", and if the load is a compressed asset, like a map, the CPU must uncompress it first. A Q will out-unzip an E in all situations, so your map loads are faster on a Q even if the clocks are a bit slower.

3./ It's going to happen... while you are playing a game, some system "service" will do some housekeeping. Having a Q means NO micro-lag whereas an E might do a little pause-for-thought. How to see this, look at benchmark's MINIMUM frame rates, not average.

4./ More and more games are going multithreaded. If you get a Q you are somewhat futureproofed. With the E, you will get faster SuperPIs, but with multithreaded games, the Q can do more calcs per second.

5./ Tomorrow's architecture is Nehalem. That's 8 cores. A single threaded app is only 5% faster than Core 2 clock for clock. That means games designers MUST program multithread in the future... they wont get more single thread performance on next gen.

6./ Q is a cooler letter than E.

Outstanding post :toast:

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