Phenom II Black Edition TWKR 42 Unveiled

btarunr · Jun 30, 2009, 04:07 PM

NDA has been lifted off AMD's newest processor for serious overclocking, the Phenom II Black Edition TWKR 42. While this processor isn't meant to be an out of the box high-speed performer, it caters specifically to those who know (TWK) the inside outs of overclocking. Hence, it comes with a speed of 2.00 GHz, but with an unlocked multiplier, high-leakage silicon, and a significantly higher overclocking headroom compared to other consumer-grade chips AMD offers. Currently AMD has only 100 of these ready to sell.

Legit Reviews is one of the first sites to review this chip, and adds an interesting list of myth busters to go with it. The chip is based on a cherry-picked high quality yield of Deneb C2 core. It comes with a vCore value of 1.44 V out of the box, and lets the overclocker decide which bus-multiplier, frequency, and voltage value to use. It comes in an exclusive jewel-case from AMD. Using air-cooling by an XIGMATEK HDT-S1283, the reviewer was able to reach 4.00 GHz on the air and more than 5.90 GHz using liquid-nitrogen cooling.

Source: Legit Reviews

1Kurgan1 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:09 PM

:O oh my

Really strange it comes at 2ghz with 1.44v and doesn't really seem the OC results are beyond the 955 OCing or even 940. Hopefully future reviews net more, wonder what the price will be on this, I'm thinking it might not be too bad since they clocked it at 2ghz.

exodusprime1337 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:10 PM

so where do we get those?

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jun 30, 2009, 04:11 PM

only its limited status seems to make it special .. cause those couldnt be special numbers ...

cdawall · Jun 30, 2009, 04:11 PM

5.9ghz is doable on retail silicone with LN2. now i understand the whole high leakage thing but if all it will do is 5.9ghz either the reviewer had no idea what he was doing or the chip sucked.

Assassin48 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

5.9ghz is doable on retail silicone with LN2. now i understand the whole high leakage thing but if all it will do is 5.9ghz either the reviewer had no idea what he was doing or the chip sucked.

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...stock_cpuz.jpg

I don't think he knows what he was doing

maybe i will be going back to amd

cdawall · Jun 30, 2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assassin48

I don't think he knows what he was doing

maybe i will be going back to amd

no its just titled wrong the review shows k|ngp|n getting 6.89ghz valid and chew* getting 6.634ghz

also the reviewer peaked with this clock

not really all that special

chew* did that on a retail cpu

and god bless

look on the left in the dimm slots thats ice look on the right thats ice on the caps all the insulated was the cpu and they did LN2? i mean really

mdm-adph · Jun 30, 2009, 04:20 PM

I don't think these are for sale, are they? Pretty sure AMD is just giving them out to various overclocking entities.

Assassin48 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:21 PM

Have you seen the Phantom Pot Prototype ?
Its a clear Pot

Me want!

DreamSeller · Jun 30, 2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assassin48

Have you seen the Phantom Pot Prototype ?
Its a clear Pot

Me want!

yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR--2ivkFSQ

maybe they put the voltage to 1.44 so the Oc'ers don't do it

btarunr · Jun 30, 2009, 04:30 PM

It doesn't matter what frequencies or voltages it ships with. Its target users don't look into specs sheets. Voltage is high because so is its leakage, and it only goes on to provide more room for voltage increment. And of course, even if AMD ships this with a clock speed of 200 MHz, it shouldn't matter to the people using these chips.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

chew* did that on a retail cpu

chew* is both skillful and lucky. Now that AMD is cherry-picking Deneb cores on a big scale, don't expect too many of such retail chips.

t77snapshot · Jun 30, 2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Currently AMD has only 100 of these ready to sell.

That means they will not be available

I wonder how much they cost?

cdawall · Jun 30, 2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

It doesn't matter what frequencies or voltages it ships with. Its target users don't look into specs sheets. Voltage is high because so is its leakage, and it only goes on to provide more room for voltage increment. And of course, even if AMD ships this with a clock speed of 200 MHz, it shouldn't matter to the people using these chips.

chew* is both skillful and lucky. Now that AMD is cherry-picking Deneb cores on a big scale, don't expect too many of such retail chips.

well cherry picking 100 isn't exactly going to kill the retail thing

however 2ghz was chosen because of the way its sits 10x multi is DID0 and FID0

btarunr · Jun 30, 2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

well cherry picking 100 isn't exactly going to kill the retail thing

It is, because they're not stopping at 100

newtekie1 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

look on the left in the dimm slots thats ice look on the right thats ice on the caps all the insulated was the cpu and they did LN2? i mean really

Ice forming like that happens even with insulation when using LN2 for prolonged periods.

boomstik360 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:41 PM

Oh I am getting one.

cdawall · Jun 30, 2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Ice forming like that happens even with insulation when using LN2 for prolonged periods.

not when you insulate the way you are supposed to

Quote:

Originally Posted by msimax

i have to make sure another msi doesnt go on me i prepped for the 100yr storm:rofl:

slappa chew* sends his regards :up:

TheGoat Eater · Jun 30, 2009, 04:55 PM

it was actually not that great of a chip - I was in Detroit with the reviewer (Gomeler) at K|ngp|ns and both of their chips only did 5.90-6 and that board must have been destroyed on monday night / tuesday lol

Evo85 · Jun 30, 2009, 04:57 PM

CDA, get one of these stat!!!

I want to see what one will do in your hands...

soldier242 · Jun 30, 2009, 05:01 PM

uhm why did they use modelling clay instead of grease and styrofoam???

boomstik360 · Jun 30, 2009, 05:03 PM

I emailed a couple guys at AMD

Gzero · Jun 30, 2009, 05:05 PM

I've not been paying attention to detail on the latest cores, but really, since when was:

Quote:

Hence, it comes with a speed of 2.00 GHz, but with an unlocked multiplier, high-leakage silicon, and a significantly higher overclocking headroom compared to other consumer-grade chips AMD offers.

Quote:

high-leakage silicon

a good thing?
Unless I'm getting the wrong impression, I can't think of any where in the cpu you want leakage???

TheGoat Eater · Jun 30, 2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soldier242

uhm why did they use modelling clay instead of grease and styrofoam???

its Kneaded Rubber Eraser and vasoline was used

cdawall · Jun 30, 2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo85

CDA, get one of these stat!!!

I want to see what one will do in your hands...

i'll call my guy in austin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gzero

I've not been paying attention to detail on the latest cores, but really, since when was:

a good thing?
Unless I'm getting the wrong impression, I can't think of any where in the cpu you want leakage???

yes high leakage is good

boomstik360 · Jun 30, 2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gzero

I've not been paying attention to detail on the latest cores, but really, since when was:

a good thing?
Unless I'm getting the wrong impression, I can't think of any where in the cpu you want leakage???

I was thinking the same thing lol

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