Project Quadfather - Page 8

Chicken Patty · Jul 13, 2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRCL

Thanks

Yeah the cutting of the metal... my mom asked me why I was cursing so much lol.

Thank you! I'm pretty proud of myself, altho its definately amateurs work

you think pros were born being pros?

MKmods · Jul 13, 2009, 11:25 PM

one thing also for future reference (sound like a broken record) but tin snips are 1000X better to use for that.

Also if you insist on using Dremel cutoff wheels "Only" use the reinforced ones...

MRCL · Jul 13, 2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

you think pros were born being pros?

Yes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

one thing also for future reference (sound like a broken record) but tin snips are 1000X better to use for that.

Also if you insist on using Dremel cutoff wheels "Only" use the reinforced ones...

Tin snips huh. I heard of them, but they never really stayed in my head... I definitely gonna try them. Thanks Mr. Guru

Edit: Do they work well also on steel?

MKmods · Jul 13, 2009, 11:39 PM

They are excellent, I have a pair I had for over 30 years and they still cut nice. They come in many styles my fav are the "WISS" brand and the left hand curve ones (they cut nice straight too but to cut circles they work nicely.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...num=7&ct=image

MRCL · Jul 13, 2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

They are excellent, I have a pair I had for over 30 years and they still cut nice. They come in many styles my fav are the "WISS" brand and the left hand curve ones (they cut nice straight too but to cut circles they work nicely.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...num=7&ct=image

Hmm, I might drop by the hardware store tomorrow and ask if they had something like this.
30 years man, that thing is older than me

t77snapshot · Jul 14, 2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRCL

Tin snips huh. I heard of them, but they never really stayed in my head... I definitely gonna try them. Thanks Mr. Guru

Edit: Do they work well also on steel?

I used a pair of Tin Snips on my steel fan grids and it work well. It doesn't look that prettiest but you could always grind the edges down for a smoother look.

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 12:09 AM

I did these holes with the curved tin Snips

Basically I draw a circle around the fan grill and just cut it nice.

Thats one of those old very heavy steel cases.

t77snapshot · Jul 14, 2009, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

I did these holes with the curved tin Snips
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...cture022-1.jpg

Basically I draw a circle around the fan grill and just cut it nice.

Thats one of those old very heavy steel cases.

Wow your tinsnip job looks amazing

and mine just looks ghetto

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 12:21 AM

the curved tin snips make better holes, the blades are designed to make circles. Yours is fine (way better than before) and you didnt waste any money on dremel wheels.

When you get a chance take a 120mm fan grill and draw a circle around it with a sharpie, than just cut on the line.

MRCL · Jul 14, 2009, 12:24 AM

I have to try that!

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 12:25 AM

There are different tin snips, they have straight, left to straight (the ones I use) and right to straight.

(I need to be careful how I word stuff

...when I say left hand circles I didnt mean it to sound like they were for left handed people, the blades are actually designed to make curves)

MRCL · Jul 14, 2009, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

There are different tin snips, they have straight, left to straight (the ones I use) and right to straight.

(I need to be careful how I word stuff

...when I say left hand circles I didnt mean it to sound like they were for left handed people, the blades are actually designed to make curves)

I get you

I assume left to straight will suit a right handed person better.

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 12:33 AM

thats it.. I have a really hard time explaining whats in my head sometimes (pretty crowded in there).

MRCL · Jul 14, 2009, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

thats it.. I have a really hard time explaining whats in my head sometimes (pretty crowded in there).

Well stop putting screwdrivers in it (ref your avatar)

Chicken Patty · Jul 14, 2009, 01:09 AM

Mark, how long does it take you to cut holes like that with Tin Snips?

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 01:13 AM

less than 3 min a hole, than I take a half round file and clean it up. Total time is like 5min.

The more you do the easier it gets, If I was just cutting circles it would take about a min to do.

The Wiss tin snips are "compound action" which is a nice way of saying they cut any crap in their way..

Chicken Patty · Jul 14, 2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

less than 3 min a hole, than I take a half round file and clean it up. Total time is like 5min.

The more you do the easier it gets, If I was just cutting circles it would take about a min to do.

The Wiss tin snips are "compound action" which is a nice way of saying they cut any crap in their way..

i shall expiremenet

I still haven't forgotten about what we spoke about buddy

I need some tin snips, any in particular you recommend? "WISS", is that a brand?

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 01:19 AM

to me Wiss is the best...(I bet in Switzerland they have even better ones) They would be perfect for doing ur side panel. (or I would be happy to do it for you)

I have some "Workforce" brand (inexpensive) cutters here, If you want let me know and Il send you both a pair for free (just cover the shipping) but they arent as good as the Wiss ones.(and the Wiss ones are only like $12 at home depot)

(I have a set of the right, left and straight ones)

MRCL · Jul 14, 2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

(I bet in Switzerland they have even better ones)

Might be. Wiss snips are sold here, too I just saw.

Chicken Patty · Jul 14, 2009, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

to me Wiss is the best...(I bet in Switzerland they have even better ones) They would be perfect for doing ur side panel. (or I would be happy to do it for you)

I have some "Workforce" brand (inexpensive) cutters here, If you want let me know and Il send you both a pair for free (just cover the shipping) but they arent as good as the Wiss ones.(and the Wiss ones are only like $12 at home depot)

(I have a set of the right, left and straight ones)

naw its cool, thanks for the offer on the snips, but if you say they are only $12, i'll go get one when I wanna try to do some holes

and yeah im still on for the panel, get paid tonight, I know its not much but dude, stuff is not easy nowadays. We are in recession right? WHy is everything so damn expensive

MRCL · Jul 14, 2009, 03:33 PM

Mini update.

Hooray for snips! Thanks MK, these really are worth it!

I leave the rad mount aside for now, lets see those side panels... I layouted where to cut the window(s), but I didn't cut yet, as I'm not sure if this will be the final layout.

Now THIS is tubing! Stumbled across that hose, just for fun shot. Next to it my newly aquired snips.

The back side panel got cut. I knew from the beginning there will be a window of some sort. I will have to beautify the res mounts tho.

hat · Jul 14, 2009, 03:41 PM

I wish I had the skill and paitence to do something like this :/

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 09:10 PM

glad you like them MRCL

one tip is not to close the cutters all the way while cutting (cut about 90% than stop open them and resume cutting) It makes long cuts look smoother.

Excellent job so far

MRCL · Jul 14, 2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKmods

glad you like them MRCL

one tip is not to close the cutters all the way while cutting (cut about 90% than stop open them and resume cutting) It makes long cuts look smoother.

Excellent job so far

I love them! Yes I noticed that... do you happen to have a tip for cutting sharp corners maybe? :P

Thanks for worshipping me

j/k

MKmods · Jul 14, 2009, 09:18 PM

I drill each corner first(that leaves a nice radius) Depending on the size of the bit is the curve of the corner.
One tip about drill bits.. use sharp ones (they are only a couple of bucks but a sharp bit is 1000X better than a dull one)

I worship you because you are sharing your experience with us.(not everyone takes the time to do so)

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Jul 13, 2009, 11:25 PM	#177
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	one thing also for future reference (sound like a broken record) but tin snips are 1000X better to use for that. Also if you insist on using Dremel cutoff wheels "Only" use the reinforced ones...

Jul 13, 2009, 11:39 PM	#179
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	They are excellent, I have a pair I had for over 30 years and they still cut nice. They come in many styles my fav are the "WISS" brand and the left hand curve ones (they cut nice straight too but to cut circles they work nicely. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...num=7&ct=image

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Jul 14, 2009, 12:09 AM	#182
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	I did these holes with the curved tin Snips Basically I draw a circle around the fan grill and just cut it nice. Thats one of those old very heavy steel cases.

Jul 14, 2009, 12:21 AM	#184
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	the curved tin snips make better holes, the blades are designed to make circles. Yours is fine (way better than before) and you didnt waste any money on dremel wheels. When you get a chance take a 120mm fan grill and draw a circle around it with a sharpie, than just cut on the line.

Jul 14, 2009, 12:24 AM	#185
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Jul 14, 2009, 12:25 AM	#186
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	There are different tin snips, they have straight, left to straight (the ones I use) and right to straight. (I need to be careful how I word stuff...when I say left hand circles I didnt mean it to sound like they were for left handed people, the blades are actually designed to make curves)

Jul 14, 2009, 12:33 AM	#188
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	thats it.. I have a really hard time explaining whats in my head sometimes (pretty crowded in there).

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Jul 14, 2009, 01:13 AM	#191
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	less than 3 min a hole, than I take a half round file and clean it up. Total time is like 5min. The more you do the easier it gets, If I was just cutting circles it would take about a min to do. The Wiss tin snips are "compound action" which is a nice way of saying they cut any crap in their way..

Jul 14, 2009, 01:19 AM	#193
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	to me Wiss is the best...(I bet in Switzerland they have even better ones) They would be perfect for doing ur side panel. (or I would be happy to do it for you) I have some "Workforce" brand (inexpensive) cutters here, If you want let me know and Il send you both a pair for free (just cover the shipping) but they arent as good as the Wiss ones.(and the Wiss ones are only like $12 at home depot) (I have a set of the right, left and straight ones) Last edited by MKmods; Jul 14, 2009 at 01:25 AM.

Jul 14, 2009, 03:33 PM	#196
MRCL Join Date: May 2008 Location: Switzerland, Heart of Europe Posts: 3,031 (4.89/day) Thanks: 274 Thanked 567 Times in 503 Posts System Specs	Mini update. Hooray for snips! Thanks MK, these really are worth it! I leave the rad mount aside for now, lets see those side panels... I layouted where to cut the window(s), but I didn't cut yet, as I'm not sure if this will be the final layout. Now THIS is tubing! Stumbled across that hose, just for fun shot. Next to it my newly aquired snips. The back side panel got cut. I knew from the beginning there will be a window of some sort. I will have to beautify the res mounts tho. __________________ CyberDruid: A man's e-peen is determined entirely by how much hardware he doesn't need...yet has bolted onto his rig... n-ster: not too sure that's in his budget o.O even if he did want to steal it, the equipment to do so would not be in his budget o.O DonInKansas: His trophy would have to say "Wurst Speleng" tho. [I.R.A.] FBi I wouldnt buy toilet paper from MSI as it may be missing the preforations

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Jul 14, 2009, 09:10 PM	#198
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	glad you like them MRCL one tip is not to close the cutters all the way while cutting (cut about 90% than stop open them and resume cutting) It makes long cuts look smoother. Excellent job so far

Jul 14, 2009, 09:18 PM	#200
MKmods Case Mod Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,335 (6.07/day) Thanks: 2,700 Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,253 Posts System Specs	I drill each corner first(that leaves a nice radius) Depending on the size of the bit is the curve of the corner. One tip about drill bits.. use sharp ones (they are only a couple of bucks but a sharp bit is 1000X better than a dull one) I worship you because you are sharing your experience with us.(not everyone takes the time to do so)

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