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lemonadesoda · 11-03-2009, 10:57 PM

OK, I have installed a ramdisk on my 2GB netbook. A quick look at ccleaner statistics (for today) shows:

Most files are internet temps. If I move those to ramdisk, not only will it be faster than my ssd, it will help save write thrashing.

Here are the speeds of my ramdisk, ssd, and original hdd that i removed:

"Real world performance"? Objectively, ramdisk is 5-10x faster than ssd, and ssd is 2-10x faster than hdd. Hence ramdisk is approx 10-100x faster than original hdd.

Subjectively? The netbook was a lot snappier after upgrading to ssd. Now, its faster still. And with the added bonus that I know I have reduced some write-wear on the ssd.

If anyone is interested, I could create a how-to in another thread.

Cuzza · 11-03-2009, 11:02 PM

How to create a Ramdisk? Yeah I'd be up for that.

techspec6 · 11-03-2009, 11:22 PM

I abuse my SSDs, so I admit that my scenario probably isn't typical.

I've been using my 3x30GB OCZ Vertex array since March. The disk are reading 91% drive life according to the SMART data available on the newest FW. 9% in 8 months. That's worst case scenario for most, but you can do the math and figure about how long my SSDs will last. I offload many writes from my SSDs onto a 2xHDD RAID 0 array. I cannot tell any difference in performance from running pagefile, user profile folders and temp files on an SSD. Reason for this is that the only work the HDD array is doing is those, and with such a light work load, it handles it perfectly fine.

Jason

lemonadesoda · 11-03-2009, 11:30 PM

Jason,

Check my crystaldiskmark stats above. This is on a netbook Atom with So-DIMM. A decent double or triple channel DDR system will go even faster. It's easy to setup a ramdisk... you only need a relatively small amount of ram for internet temps... and will speed you up further.

Note that the ramdisk is for VOLATILE data only. internet temps, cookies, and temps. Clearly user profile and other persistent data must be kept elsewhere.

SHOW US your crystaldiskmark stats for your SSD RAID and your HDD RAID ...

lemonadesoda · 11-04-2009, 01:45 AM

HOLY COW!

I just set up a ramdisk on my workstation (Xeon FB-DIMM)

OH BABY! LOVE YOU LONG TIME!

Cuzza · 11-04-2009, 04:10 AM

No Sucky Sucky?

extrasalty · 11-04-2009, 07:25 AM

techspec6 · 11-04-2009, 04:23 PM

Here's 4x Vertex on my Adaptec 2405. I don't like the long boot times and it's not much better IOps than my ICH10R, so I boxed it back up and put it back into the closet.

Here's 3x Vertex on the ICH10R. Before I bought my 4th.

Unfortunately, I don't have any saved images of Crystalmark benches. I usually use AS SSD Benchmark instead. It gives results that can be repeated and it's written for SSDs.

Jason

spy2520 · 11-05-2009, 09:09 PM

what besides internet temps is worth moving to a ramdisk? Isn't moving a pagefile to a ramdisk the same as just leaving things ans the OS using the ram? I don't wanna be a downer i'm just a little unclear.

lemonadesoda · 11-05-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuzza

How to create a Ramdisk? Yeah I'd be up for that.

Your wish, my command

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=107670

spy2520 · 11-07-2009, 12:52 AM

I have an extra 2GB sitting around and 4GB already installed. Can you think of a use for a 2GB ramdisk?

System Name:	ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor:	Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5420
Memory:	2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card:	HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3350
CRT/LCD Model:	2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Sound Card:	Audigy 2
Software:	Windows Server 2003.SP2 as a Workstation

11-03-2009, 11:02 PM	#27
Cuzza Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 758 (0.87/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 139 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	How to create a Ramdisk? Yeah I'd be up for that. __________________ My Sega Mod Project “but oh ze noes! i can't convert my porn to iphone so i can watch in the bus .. it doesnt support cuda / badaboom.” -W1zzard "For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables." - Romans 14:2

System Name:	Frustration
Processor:	AMD AthlonXP 2400+ Thoroughbred
Motherboard:	ECS K7S5A
Memory:	2x512Mb DDR266
Video Card:	ATI 9800SE (softmodded)
Harddisk:	120Gb Samsung
CRT/LCD Model:	22" Chimei LCD
Case:	Beige!
PSU:	Enermax Liberty 400W Modular
Software:	Windows XP

System Name:	ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor:	Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5420
Memory:	2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card:	HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3350
CRT/LCD Model:	2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Sound Card:	Audigy 2
Software:	Windows Server 2003.SP2 as a Workstation

System Name:	ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor:	Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5420
Memory:	2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card:	HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3350
CRT/LCD Model:	2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Sound Card:	Audigy 2
Software:	Windows Server 2003.SP2 as a Workstation

11-03-2009, 10:57 PM	#26
lemonadesoda Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,891 (4.15/day) Thanks: 622 Thanked 760 Times in 591 Posts System Specs	OK, I have installed a ramdisk on my 2GB netbook. A quick look at ccleaner statistics (for today) shows: Most files are internet temps. If I move those to ramdisk, not only will it be faster than my ssd, it will help save write thrashing. Here are the speeds of my ramdisk, ssd, and original hdd that i removed: "Real world performance"? Objectively, ramdisk is 5-10x faster than ssd, and ssd is 2-10x faster than hdd. Hence ramdisk is approx 10-100x faster than original hdd. Subjectively? The netbook was a lot snappier after upgrading to ssd. Now, its faster still. And with the added bonus that I know I have reduced some write-wear on the ssd. If anyone is interested, I could create a how-to in another thread.

11-03-2009, 11:22 PM	#28
techspec6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 30 (0.48/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts	I abuse my SSDs, so I admit that my scenario probably isn't typical. I've been using my 3x30GB OCZ Vertex array since March. The disk are reading 91% drive life according to the SMART data available on the newest FW. 9% in 8 months. That's worst case scenario for most, but you can do the math and figure about how long my SSDs will last. I offload many writes from my SSDs onto a 2xHDD RAID 0 array. I cannot tell any difference in performance from running pagefile, user profile folders and temp files on an SSD. Reason for this is that the only work the HDD array is doing is those, and with such a light work load, it handles it perfectly fine. Jason

11-03-2009, 11:30 PM	#29
lemonadesoda Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,891 (4.15/day) Thanks: 622 Thanked 760 Times in 591 Posts System Specs	Jason, Check my crystaldiskmark stats above. This is on a netbook Atom with So-DIMM. A decent double or triple channel DDR system will go even faster. It's easy to setup a ramdisk... you only need a relatively small amount of ram for internet temps... and will speed you up further. Note that the ramdisk is for VOLATILE data only. internet temps, cookies, and temps. Clearly user profile and other persistent data must be kept elsewhere. SHOW US your crystaldiskmark stats for your SSD RAID and your HDD RAID ...

11-04-2009, 01:45 AM	#30
lemonadesoda Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,891 (4.15/day) Thanks: 622 Thanked 760 Times in 591 Posts System Specs	HOLY COW! I just set up a ramdisk on my workstation (Xeon FB-DIMM) OH BABY! LOVE YOU LONG TIME!

11-04-2009, 04:10 AM	#31
Cuzza Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 758 (0.87/day) Thanks: 87 Thanked 139 Times in 116 Posts System Specs	No Sucky Sucky? __________________ My Sega Mod Project “but oh ze noes! i can't convert my porn to iphone so i can watch in the bus .. it doesnt support cuda / badaboom.” -W1zzard "For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables." - Romans 14:2

11-04-2009, 07:25 AM	#32
extrasalty Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 85 (0.44/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts System Specs	__________________

Processor:	Core i7 @ 3.5GHz stock voltage
Motherboard:	MSI Eclipse
Cooling:	Noctua NH-12P SE
Memory:	6 GB 1066MHz
Video Card:	2x GTX260 @ 701/1506
Harddisk:	Raptor 74 GB
CD/DVD Drive:	Plextor PX-760A
CRT/LCD Model:	NEC MultiSync 2080UX+
PSU:	Corsair HX620
Software:	Win7

11-04-2009, 04:23 PM	#33
techspec6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 30 (0.48/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts	Here's 4x Vertex on my Adaptec 2405. I don't like the long boot times and it's not much better IOps than my ICH10R, so I boxed it back up and put it back into the closet. Here's 3x Vertex on the ICH10R. Before I bought my 4th. Unfortunately, I don't have any saved images of Crystalmark benches. I usually use AS SSD Benchmark instead. It gives results that can be repeated and it's written for SSDs. Jason

11-05-2009, 09:09 PM	#34
spy2520 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 330 (0.24/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	what besides internet temps is worth moving to a ramdisk? Isn't moving a pagefile to a ramdisk the same as just leaving things ans the OS using the ram? I don't wanna be a downer i'm just a little unclear. __________________ 99 SS bone stock...

Processor:	Celeron 430 (Conroe-L)
Motherboard:	ASUS Rampage Formula
Cooling:	Water, Zalman Reserator XT
Memory:	Corsair Dominator PC2-8500 DDR2-1000
Video Card:	Visiontek 2600 PRO
Harddisk:	Maxtor Maxline 3, more Maxtors
CD/DVD Drive:	Yamaha CRW-F1ZEN
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer P243w 24"
Case:	Aspire X-Navigator ATXA9N-BK
Sound Card:	Mbox
PSU:	Thermaltake Toughpower 750w
Software:	Protools and a bunch of racing games...

11-07-2009, 12:52 AM	#36
spy2520 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 330 (0.24/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	I have an extra 2GB sitting around and 4GB already installed. Can you think of a use for a 2GB ramdisk? __________________ 99 SS bone stock...

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