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Old 11-07-2009, 09:09 PM     #1
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Greek budget gaming pc(my country sucks)

Ok prices in Greece are high and my budget is 650 euros. I have keyboard,mouse and speakers and i need everything else



+ T220 Samsung 140 euros
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:59 PM     #2
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That PSU is badly designed. It will not pull 550W, the cabling is a mess and very limiting. You can get much better for the same money from others like Antec, Corsair, SilverStone, BFG, SevenTeam, Seasonic just to name a few.

If you want, post the link to the site you are shopping on and people here will be glad to give you some suggestions.

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That PSU is badly designed. It will not pull 550W, the cabling is a mess and very limiting. You can get much better for the same money from others like Antec, Corsair, SilverStone, BFG, SevenTeam, Seasonic just to name a few.

And I don't see a case so I assume you have one already as well.

If you want, post the link to the site you are shopping on and people here will be glad to give you some suggestions.
artic cooling is a good brand. i say it will pull 550W. but i agree that there should be something better for same price (like a corsair 400w)

i say your pc is a good build other than that.

EDIT: your country is not bad. you guys invented democracy. MY COUNTRY IS BAD (URUGUAY) here low end mobos are 200 dollars and thats a lot of money in here . SO GET OVER IT. MY COUNTRY IS BAD, NOT YOURS
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artic cooling is a good brand. i say it will pull 550W. but i agree that there should be something better for same price (like a corsair 400w)

i say your pc is a good build other than that.

EDIT: your country is not bad. you guys invented democracy. MY COUNTRY IS BAD (URUGUAY) here low end mobos are 200 dollars and thats a lot of money in here . SO GET OVER IT. MY COUNTRY IS BAD, NOT YOURS
That system doesn't require anything near 550W, so it matters not.


The Greek democracy worked better than todays democracy, it was only for the rich so idiots didn't get to vote. Modern Greece is nothing like ancient Greece though.
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artic cooling is a good brand. i say it will pull 550W. but i agree that there should be something better for same price (like a corsair 400w)

i say your pc is a good build other than that.

EDIT: your country is not bad. you guys invented democracy. MY COUNTRY IS BAD (URUGUAY) here low end mobos are 200 dollars and thats a lot of money in here . SO GET OVER IT. MY COUNTRY IS BAD, NOT YOURS
Not knocking the brand. I know AC makes some good stuff, but this is not an example of that apparently.

Conclusion of a Review of that PSU below. Feel free to read through how they tested it and what it can give out.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/713/10

P.S. Even if it is still good enough, the SATA connects are all on one wire, thus limiting using SATA as DVD and HDD without the need for an adapter.
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As others on here say, you have a good lineup here, but could do better on the CPU. TheLaughingMan's review is worth looking at carefully.

I have a Corsair HX850W in mine and this is a very good brand indeed (you should see the reviews! ). You could get away with a 500W or so Corsair and save yourself significant money while still getting a top quality PSU. Other brands are also pretty good, if you don't want a Corsair. Just run your choice past us before purchase and we'll let you know if it's a good one.

And finally, I know several Greeks and they are all fine people. Welcome to TPU.
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As others on here say, you have a good lineup here, but could do better on the CPU. TheLaughingMan's review is worth looking at carefully.

I have a Corsair HX850W in mine and this is a very good brand indeed (you should see the reviews! ). You could get away with a 500W or so Corsair and save yourself significant money while still getting a top quality PSU. Other brands are also pretty good, if you don't want a Corsair. Just run your choice past us before purchase and we'll let you know if it's a good one.

And finally, I know several Greeks and they are all fine people. Welcome to TPU.
You meant PSU, right?
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I can't pay more than 60 euros for psu. Here are the other options

COOLERMASTER RS-500 EXTREMEPOWER PLUS 500W - http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.806699

THERMALTAKE W0101 TR2 POWER 550W - http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.700415

OCZ Stealthxstream PSU (500W, OCZ500SXS) - http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hard...-500SXS-EU.htm

Chieftec APS-550S PSU (550W) - http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hard...W-APS-550S.htm


Corsair's are too damn expensive. With 60 euros i can get only a 400w corsair but i want more than 500w because in the future i will buy a bigger gpu or cpu or something else

P.S Maybe i'll give 10 more euros to buy pc power and cooling 500w. Corsair 520w psu costs here 90 euros. That's way too much for my budget
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You meant PSU, right?
Look you, I'm talking about a quad core CPU with a 12v output!

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Just looked at the psu review and i cant believe artic cooling made such a crappy thing.

Then go for ehm... Coolermaster or Thermaltake
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I can't pay more than 60 euros for psu. Here are the other options

COOLERMASTER RS-500 EXTREMEPOWER PLUS 500W - http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.806699

THERMALTAKE W0101 TR2 POWER 550W - http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.700415

OCZ Stealthxstream PSU (500W, OCZ500SXS) - http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hard...-500SXS-EU.htm

Chieftec APS-550S PSU (550W) - http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hard...W-APS-550S.htm


Corsair's are too damn expensive. With 60 euros i can get only a 400w corsair but i want more than 500w because in the future i will buy a bigger gpu or cpu or something else

P.S Maybe i'll give 10 more euros to buy pc power and cooling 500w. Corsair 520w psu costs here 90 euros. That's way too much for my budget
Honestly, all those are better choices. I would go with the Chieftec APS-550S in this case.

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artic cooling is a good brand. i say it will pull 550W. but i agree that there should be something better for same price (like a corsair 400w)

i say your pc is a good build other than that.

EDIT: your country is not bad. you guys invented democracy. MY COUNTRY IS BAD (URUGUAY) here low end mobos are 200 dollars and thats a lot of money in here . SO GET OVER IT. MY COUNTRY IS BAD, NOT YOURS
Argentina here...tell me about it....Look at those prices man, don't complain, i mean, you at least can watch at Euros and not drool over them man...

About your build, i think it's ok, maybe you could wait a little bit and bet for a better, PSU, +1 on the Cooler Master suggested above.
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For gaming you don't need a 955, get a 720 and use that money for a better PSU/GPU.
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I think what everyone here is trying to say is, never skimp on the PSU. No matter how cool, powerful, or great your components are, it means nothing if it is not getting clean, consistent power. The PSU is the real core to a computer as it provides life giving electricity and protection to all other parts.

But, it is your computer and your decision. The Cooler Master and Chieftec are my two top picks for the PSU's you have listed it. If you can wait and save a little more, this would be much better buy.

SilverPower = SeaSonic

Xilence = FSP who makes a lot of other companies good PSU's
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I think what everyone here is trying to say is, never skimp on the PSU. No matter how cool, powerful, or great your components are, it means nothing if it is not getting clean, consistent power. The PSU is the real core to a computer as it provides life giving electricity and protection to all other parts.

+1 to that. Here's an example of where this matters.

I bought my GTX 285 a few months ago and noticed that when in 3D mode, ie playing a game, the power circuitry on it was making quite a noticeable buzz at the frame rate frequency, ie the pitch would vary depending on the exact FPS it was rendering. The volume would also depend on how hard the game's graphics loaded the card.

The card was a lot louder than all my previous ones and had quite a sharp edge to it, which was somewhat annoying, but it was stable. I put this down to corner-cutting on the reference design and just put up with it.

Soon after, I noticed odd squirly noises coming from my Antec PSU, which meant it was failing (it was quite old). After reading some reviews, I then purchased my Corsair PSU and the noise from the graphics card?

Was way quieter! Serously, hardly audible. I was surprised at this and can only think that the power delivery on the old Antec was unstable, just not enough to crash the PC, or blow up in my face. Yet.

So there you have it, a good example of why you need a new, decent quality PSU if you want to ensure trouble-free operation of your PC at the hardware level and prevent damage to your components.
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