Internal Solid state disk (SSD) ?

trickson · 11-08-2009, 06:16 PM

What is this ? and how does one use this as a boot drive ?

method526 · 11-08-2009, 10:45 PM

it's basically another type of hard disk drive that operates at a faster speed than a the normal hard drives would. but SSDs do not hold much GB, so they are mainly used as OS drives.

Lazzer408 · 11-08-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by method526

it's basically another type of hard disk drive that operates at a faster speed than a the normal hard drives would. but SSDs do not hold much GB, so they are mainly used as OS drives.

It contains no disks. It uses flash memory as the storage medium. No moving/mechanical parts. They are generally much faster then a rotating disk harddrive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive

LittleLizard · 11-08-2009, 10:58 PM

yes. also performance depends not on the header or the speed of the disks but in the controller and the nand memory used. imagine like a pendrive but using sata interface

techspec6 · 11-09-2009, 12:11 AM

Hello Trickson,

SSD technology is changing very rapidly. There are many SSDs on the market for the same price that are not anywhere close to the same performance. Be sure to ask which ones are good to buy when you're ready to purchase.

Currently (11/8/09)
-Indilinx controlled SSDs are fantastic, especially OCZ brand because of their support and FW
-Intel G2 drives are great, as long as you don't brick it with the newest FW.
-I'd suggest staying away from all jmicron controlled SSDs due to bad drive stuttering.
-I'd suggest staying away from all Samsung controlled SSDs until they offer better user support updates for FW. So far, they've not released a single one where indilinx has released nearly a dozen and even offer TRIM capability in Win7.

Jason

Laurijan · 11-09-2009, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techspec6

Hello Trickson,

SSD technology is changing very rapidly. There are many SSDs on the market for the same price that are not anywhere close to the same performance. Be sure to ask which ones are good to buy when you're ready to purchase.

Currently (11/8/09)
-Indilinx controlled SSDs are fantastic, especially OCZ brand because of their support and FW
-Intel G2 drives are great, as long as you don't brick it with the newest FW.
-I'd suggest staying away from all jmicron controlled SSDs due to bad drive stuttering.
-I'd suggest staying away from all Samsung controlled SSDs until they offer better user support updates for FW. So far, they've not released a single one where indilinx has released nearly a dozen and even offer TRIM capability in Win7.

Jason

What does "FW" meen?

A Cheese Danish · 11-09-2009, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurijan

What does "FW" meen?

I'm thinking he means FirmWare?
I'm going to use this text to say that everyone above has answered the question on what an SSD is,
but I'm going to state anyway: It is a storage device, but uses flash technology rather than disk plates to
store data.

techspec6 · 11-09-2009, 11:33 AM

Yes, sorry. FW= Firmware

FW is very important with SSDs because of the rapid changes to the technology. With an easy to update FW, the manufacturer can release updates which can give your SSD more features and stability rather than having to go out and buy a new SSD. For example, Intel G1 versus Intel G2 drives. Intel chose to not update the FW in the G1 drive and instead make everyone purchase a new G2 drive to get the TRIM capability in Windows 7. Great for the manufacturer, not so great for the consumer.

Jason

3dsage · 11-09-2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

What is this ? and how does one use this as a boot drive ?

If your thinking about getting one, do it. boot times are really quick, even compared to my V-Raptor (300GB).
Only thing i regret is not buying me a 60GB, cause my 32GB only has 7GB left after a Vista 64 Ultimate install + updates

But its definately worth it IMO, BTW I got a Warp V2

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11-08-2009, 10:45 PM	#2
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11-09-2009, 12:11 AM	#5
techspec6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 30 (0.48/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts	Hello Trickson, SSD technology is changing very rapidly. There are many SSDs on the market for the same price that are not anywhere close to the same performance. Be sure to ask which ones are good to buy when you're ready to purchase. Currently (11/8/09) -Indilinx controlled SSDs are fantastic, especially OCZ brand because of their support and FW -Intel G2 drives are great, as long as you don't brick it with the newest FW. -I'd suggest staying away from all jmicron controlled SSDs due to bad drive stuttering. -I'd suggest staying away from all Samsung controlled SSDs until they offer better user support updates for FW. So far, they've not released a single one where indilinx has released nearly a dozen and even offer TRIM capability in Win7. Jason

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11-09-2009, 11:33 AM	#8
techspec6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 30 (0.48/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts	Yes, sorry. FW= Firmware FW is very important with SSDs because of the rapid changes to the technology. With an easy to update FW, the manufacturer can release updates which can give your SSD more features and stability rather than having to go out and buy a new SSD. For example, Intel G1 versus Intel G2 drives. Intel chose to not update the FW in the G1 drive and instead make everyone purchase a new G2 drive to get the TRIM capability in Windows 7. Great for the manufacturer, not so great for the consumer. Jason

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