computer freezing??

sweeper · 11-08-2009, 04:14 PM

Ok, I tried myself to figure this one out with no luck so far. My computer keeps freezing out of no where on me. Doesn't matter time, temp., etc. It will freeze. By freeze I mean I can be on the internet, gaming, or it could be just sitting here with no one on it and if the screen has gone off it doesn't come back on or if you are using it everything just stops. The picture is still there but mouse, keyboard etc. nothing works. Lights are on computer is running temps are fine. I've ran AdAware, Spybot SD, AVG is always running, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, CCleaner, Driver cleaner and this is on a new OS (windows XP Pro). Can't find anything. Bios setting havent been changed other than to turn on Sata.

Specs:
Intel Pentium 4 "E" 3.2GHz stock (cleaned with new Thermal Compound) (42C)
MSI 865PE Neo2 P (Platinum Edition) Latest Bios (clean, nothing abnormal on board)
2x1GB Patriot Signiture Series DDR400 (stock speed) Memtest86 tested with 6 passes (5hrs)
Western Digital 500GB SATAII HDD (jumpered to 150mbs) (unjumpered 350mbs) no difference
XFX GeForce 6600GT 256MB AGP with Zalman HSF (temp @ 30c)
Pioneer DVD-RW SATA
Antec Basiq 550W Plus ATX PSU (NEW)
New SATA cables
Thermaltake XaserII Case (5x80mm Case fans) 2 plugged into MB , 3 into PSU
1xNB Fan plugged into NB fan connector , NB HS just cleaned with new thermal compound
Zalman CPU HSF plugged into CPU Fan connector
Onboard sound, LAN
Logitech wireless keyboard & mouse plugged in via PS2 ports (tried removing all USB devices) no difference
SOYO 22" Monitor
New TRIPP-LITE Surge Protector

CDdude55 · 11-08-2009, 04:47 PM

So you reinstalled the OS and everything?, also try reinstalling your drivers.

Did you recently change anything on the system, hardware or software wise?

sweeper · 11-08-2009, 04:57 PM

I did a clean install of Windows and all drivers are up to date. I did the clean install to see if any of the programs that were on it might have been the cause but it still just freezes. Could it possibly be the video card going bad causing the screen to freeze? The HDD light will still blink etc as if the computer is still running but I cannot move anything on the screen. I ran driver cleaner and wiped all video drivers and re-installed them but still the same thing.

Meow9000 · 11-08-2009, 05:02 PM

Sounds like the HDD, but thats only speculation. If it was a Graphics card you would get signs like artifacts or a driver crash/BSOD

Swap the HDD out for a fresh one and see if that does the job.

CDdude55 · 11-08-2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweeper

I did a clean install of Windows and all drivers are up to date. I did the clean install to see if any of the programs that were on it might have been the cause but it still just freezes. Could it possibly be the video card going bad causing the screen to freeze? The HDD light will still blink etc as if the computer is still running but I cannot move anything on the screen. I ran driver cleaner and wiped all video drivers and re-installed them but still the same thing.

It's probably something with the hardware then. If you can, try and use other parts and see if the system still freezes.

xBruce88x · 11-08-2009, 05:36 PM

hmm after reading that i'd have to go with HDD also

@CDdude55: Love the boom headshot avatar, that guy is funny

Laurijan · 11-08-2009, 05:39 PM

Run HDD-Regenerator on your current drive and see if it find bad-sectors http://www.dposoft.net/

sweeper · 11-08-2009, 09:48 PM

Ran HDD Regenerator and found NO bad sectors or any problems with the HDD. Also ran WD Lifeguard and it found no problems either..... I have noooooooo idea what's up.

driver66 · 11-08-2009, 10:15 PM

Look over your motherboard with a light in the PWN area for bulging or burst caps

sweeper · 11-08-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driver66

Look over your motherboard with a light in the PWN area for bulging or burst caps

I did that yesterday. Looked over the entire thing. The MB is in excellent physical condition. Wondering if it's not a CPU, MB problem. Only things left ? No sooner was I done with the HDD test I let it sit for about 1/2 hour and my son got on it and jumped on the internet and it locked up. ? . But it ran the HDD test for 3hrs and didn't lock up.

Lazzer408 · 11-08-2009, 11:05 PM

Did you run mem-test? Swap modules? Try one then the other? Do you have a logging digital scope? lol

sweeper · 11-08-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

Did you run mem-test? Swap modules? Try one then the other? Do you have a logging digital scope? lol

LOGGING DIGITAL SCOPE??

Did run memtest for 5hrs (6 passes)

I've tried each module on it's own with still no luck. Sucks that DDR400 is so damn expensive or I would buy a few new sticks. Can't find P4 CPU's either. It's just a basic PC that I use for a small amount of gaming , internet, Photo's, etc. Son keeps telling me to buy a new one but I don't need all that stuff nor do I need to spend all sorts of money. But getting used parts is becoming a hassle too.

Lazzer408 · 11-09-2009, 02:07 AM

Soc 478 P4s? I got some. Need one?

sweeper · 11-09-2009, 04:02 AM

Lazzer408 - YGPM

xBruce88x · 11-09-2009, 04:13 AM

hmm... i noticed you said it locked up as soon as your son got on the internet... could it be a bad network card?... bad hardware does weird things lol

sweeper · 11-09-2009, 11:10 AM

it locks up on me as well doing what ever. Could be using a program on the computer and it would lock up. Like now, it's been running for 11+ hours without a lock up. ??? It just locks up on it's own when it feels like it. Very frustrating to say the least.

I even have the BIOS set to "BIOS FACTORY DEFAULT" except I had to change P-ATA to S-ATA.

Random Noise · 11-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Could be your (new) Power Supply. After all you have done it is about the only thing left.

sweeper · 11-19-2009, 09:57 AM

-FIX-
Replaced the Geforce 6600GT with a new card (Radeon HD4650 1GB AGP) and haven't (knocks on wood) had any lock up since. (sorry took so long to reply for a fix to this).

Regards,
Sweeper

11-08-2009, 04:14 PM	#1
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 405 (0.23/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	computer freezing?? Ok, I tried myself to figure this one out with no luck so far. My computer keeps freezing out of no where on me. Doesn't matter time, temp., etc. It will freeze. By freeze I mean I can be on the internet, gaming, or it could be just sitting here with no one on it and if the screen has gone off it doesn't come back on or if you are using it everything just stops. The picture is still there but mouse, keyboard etc. nothing works. Lights are on computer is running temps are fine. I've ran AdAware, Spybot SD, AVG is always running, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, CCleaner, Driver cleaner and this is on a new OS (windows XP Pro). Can't find anything. Bios setting havent been changed other than to turn on Sata. Specs: Intel Pentium 4 "E" 3.2GHz stock (cleaned with new Thermal Compound) (42C) MSI 865PE Neo2 P (Platinum Edition) Latest Bios (clean, nothing abnormal on board) 2x1GB Patriot Signiture Series DDR400 (stock speed) Memtest86 tested with 6 passes (5hrs) Western Digital 500GB SATAII HDD (jumpered to 150mbs) (unjumpered 350mbs) no difference XFX GeForce 6600GT 256MB AGP with Zalman HSF (temp @ 30c) Pioneer DVD-RW SATA Antec Basiq 550W Plus ATX PSU (NEW) New SATA cables Thermaltake XaserII Case (5x80mm Case fans) 2 plugged into MB , 3 into PSU 1xNB Fan plugged into NB fan connector , NB HS just cleaned with new thermal compound Zalman CPU HSF plugged into CPU Fan connector Onboard sound, LAN Logitech wireless keyboard & mouse plugged in via PS2 ports (tried removing all USB devices) no difference SOYO 22" Monitor New TRIPP-LITE Surge Protector

System Name:	"X"
Processor:	Pentium 4 3.2GHz 'E' @ 3.4GHz
Motherboard:	MSI 865PE Neo2 P
Cooling:	CNPS7500-AlCu LED
Memory:	2GB DDR400 Patriot Signature Series @ 426MHz
Video Card:	XFX Radeon HD4650 1GB DDR2 AGP
Harddisk:	Western Digital 500GB SATA II
CD/DVD Drive:	Pioneer DVR-212D SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	Soyo 22" LCD Dual DVI
Case:	Thermaltake Xaser II
Sound Card:	On-board Realtek
PSU:	Antec Basiq 550W Plus
Software:	Windows XP Pro

11-08-2009, 04:47 PM	#2
CDdude55 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia,United States Posts: 3,480 (4.03/day) Thanks: 2,170 Thanked 373 Times in 330 Posts System Specs	So you reinstalled the OS and everything?, also try reinstalling your drivers. Did you recently change anything on the system, hardware or software wise? __________________ Owner of one Current Gen systems(Wii), Sold PS3 Xbox 360 died 9/5/07: Second 360= Also Dead Steam ID: xXTank RushXx Games Playing: Left 4 Dead 2 (PC), Resident Evil 5 (PC)

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Harddisk:	WD Caviar 160GB/Seagate Barracuda 160GB (both SATA)
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System Name:	"X"
Processor:	Pentium 4 3.2GHz 'E' @ 3.4GHz
Motherboard:	MSI 865PE Neo2 P
Cooling:	CNPS7500-AlCu LED
Memory:	2GB DDR400 Patriot Signature Series @ 426MHz
Video Card:	XFX Radeon HD4650 1GB DDR2 AGP
Harddisk:	Western Digital 500GB SATA II
CD/DVD Drive:	Pioneer DVR-212D SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	Soyo 22" LCD Dual DVI
Case:	Thermaltake Xaser II
Sound Card:	On-board Realtek
PSU:	Antec Basiq 550W Plus
Software:	Windows XP Pro

11-08-2009, 04:57 PM	#3
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 405 (0.23/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	I did a clean install of Windows and all drivers are up to date. I did the clean install to see if any of the programs that were on it might have been the cause but it still just freezes. Could it possibly be the video card going bad causing the screen to freeze? The HDD light will still blink etc as if the computer is still running but I cannot move anything on the screen. I ran driver cleaner and wiped all video drivers and re-installed them but still the same thing.

11-08-2009, 05:02 PM	#4
Meow9000 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wales, Uk Posts: 123 (1.00/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	Sounds like the HDD, but thats only speculation. If it was a Graphics card you would get signs like artifacts or a driver crash/BSOD Swap the HDD out for a fresh one and see if that does the job.

Processor:	AMD PHENOM 9950BE x4 (140W)
Motherboard:	ASUS CROSSHAIR II (BIOS 2003)
Cooling:	ZALMAN 9700L
Memory:	4GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR 1066 (2x2GB)
Video Card:	XFX 9600GT XXX (740/1000)
Harddisk:	WD250x2 RAID0/Maxtor 500GB STORAGE
CRT/LCD Model:	SAMSUNG 23"/ACER 20"
Case:	COOLMASTER 690 CUSTOM
Sound Card:	SUPREME FX II
PSU:	OCZ 700W
Software:	WINDOWS 7 RC7100/VISTA 64

11-08-2009, 05:36 PM	#6
xBruce88x Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 109 (4.89/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts System Specs	hmm after reading that i'd have to go with HDD also @CDdude55: Love the boom headshot avatar, that guy is funny

System Name:	xBruce88x
Processor:	Intel Pentium D 915 2.8Ghz 800FSB (OC to 3.5Ghz/1000FSB)
Motherboard:	AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA
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Memory:	Corsair XMS2 Plat. 675Mhz DDR-2 2x1GB
Video Card:	MSI OC Geforce 9600GT 512MB (@ x4 pci-e, chipset limit), 2x 3DFX VooDoo II, now what to do with agp!
Harddisk:	500GB Hitachi 16mb cache, 7200rpm
CD/DVD Drive:	BenQ DW1655, Samsung SD-616E
CRT/LCD Model:	Panasonic GDM-5402 (1920x1440 @75htz max)
Case:	no freaking idea... but its just big enough for the asrock board, and looks nice. been through a lot
Sound Card:	Realtek ALC888 (for case audio plugs) and Creative SB-Audigy 2 (for Tritton AX-51)
PSU:	Antec Smartpower 400W (12v1 14A, 12v2 15A)
Software:	Windows XP SP3, made to look like vista lol
Benchmarks:	3D Mark: 6926

11-08-2009, 05:39 PM	#7
Laurijan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 1,243 (1.23/day) Thanks: 200 Thanked 183 Times in 152 Posts System Specs	Run HDD-Regenerator on your current drive and see if it find bad-sectors http://www.dposoft.net/ __________________ Rate my rig so i rate yours! ☆☆☆My Rig☆☆☆ If you want to quit smoking tobacco this is a must see: ☆☆☆The Electronic-Cigarette Club☆☆☆ @ GN.net

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PSU:	Termaltake Thoughpower 750W, Cable management
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11-08-2009, 09:48 PM	#8
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 405 (0.23/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	Ran HDD Regenerator and found NO bad sectors or any problems with the HDD. Also ran WD Lifeguard and it found no problems either..... I have noooooooo idea what's up.

11-08-2009, 10:15 PM	#9
driver66 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: indiana Posts: 643 (0.71/day) Thanks: 61 Thanked 82 Times in 80 Posts System Specs	Look over your motherboard with a light in the PWN area for bulging or burst caps __________________ “cheap hooker can be sold cheaper, being a low-end product, you could probably give her a smaller cut? effectively increasing your revenue percentage. now all you need is to increase your absolute number of sales to make more money.” -W1zzard “you had a pedobear called mohammed as avatar .. should i go ahead and post your ip at al-qaeda forums?” -W1zzard

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11-08-2009, 11:05 PM	#11
Lazzer408 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,456 (1.39/day) Thanks: 17 Thanked 123 Times in 99 Posts System Specs	Did you run mem-test? Swap modules? Try one then the other? Do you have a logging digital scope? lol __________________ "now slapping ass is something that I will do!" -FreedomEclipse

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11-09-2009, 02:07 AM	#13
Lazzer408 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,456 (1.39/day) Thanks: 17 Thanked 123 Times in 99 Posts System Specs	Soc 478 P4s? I got some. Need one? __________________ "now slapping ass is something that I will do!" -FreedomEclipse

11-09-2009, 04:02 AM	#14
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 405 (0.23/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	Lazzer408 - YGPM

11-09-2009, 04:13 AM	#15
xBruce88x Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 109 (4.89/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts System Specs	hmm... i noticed you said it locked up as soon as your son got on the internet... could it be a bad network card?... bad hardware does weird things lol

11-09-2009, 11:10 AM	#16
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 405 (0.23/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	it locks up on me as well doing what ever. Could be using a program on the computer and it would lock up. Like now, it's been running for 11+ hours without a lock up. ??? It just locks up on it's own when it feels like it. Very frustrating to say the least. I even have the BIOS set to "BIOS FACTORY DEFAULT" except I had to change P-ATA to S-ATA.

11-09-2009, 02:36 PM	#17
Random Noise Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14 (0.02/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Could be your (new) Power Supply. After all you have done it is about the only thing left. __________________ Q9650 @ 4GHz Gigabyte X48T 4870X2 4GB OCZ ReaperX 2 V Raptors RAID 0 Antec TPQ 850

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Harddisk:	2 V Raptors RAID 0
CRT/LCD Model:	HP w2408h
Case:	Lian Li PC60
Sound Card:	On Board
PSU:	Antec TPQ 850
Software:	Vista 64 U

11-19-2009, 09:57 AM	#18
sweeper Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SW, Ohio Posts: 405 (0.23/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts System Specs	-FIX- Replaced the Geforce 6600GT with a new card (Radeon HD4650 1GB AGP) and haven't (knocks on wood) had any lock up since. (sorry took so long to reply for a fix to this). Regards, Sweeper

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