Windows 7 Club

[craigo]

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

snip...Then came the X38 chipset and Intel no longer provided drivers for it.snip...

my motherboard tends to disagree with your statement.
<-- motherboard listed in specs

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by craigo

my motherboard tends to disagree with your statement.
<-- motherboard listed in specs

x38 and x48 are the same thing, and drivers certainly do exist for them...
(i'm quoting you since i cant be stuffed finding his post)

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Wile E

He's telling you that you can't delete them unless you want to quit using Security Essentials. Anti virus programs need virus definition files to work properly.

Well I did and everything runs fine.

[wolf]

Just did a thumb drive install of RTM on an eee pc 1000H, wow.

this OS loves anything hardware wise it seems, aero works beaut even on the eee with 8mb dedicated video memory, even with an episode of that 70's show playing in WMP, windows+tab didnt lag at all and showed the video perfectly.

Hec before the first usable boot it asked to connect to my home wireless, this OS has never failed to impress me, I rambled onto my ex (installed it on her eee, used to be mine) about it's features for a good 15-20 minutes and I'm sure I still missed some.

even in her quite n00by eyes, she knows it shits on XP that came on the eee.

wow. one impressed guy.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Well I did and everything runs fine.

if you delete the definition updates, it wont recognise any viruses/nasties

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Mussels

if you delete the definition updates, it wont recognise any viruses/nasties

I think MSE downloads them to the HD then installs them. However it leaves behind the original files for some reason. I'm not sure but I THINK thats how it works because I deleted the files and everything is still up to date and updates fine.

Edit: I confirmed my suspicions. The VDM files are just residue from definition updates. As long as MSE says its up to date than it is. You can toss the VDM files. However according to Microsoft that shouldn't be happening with the latest version but it isn't unheard of. Gotta love MS and its vagueness

[EastCoasthandle]

12 common Windows 7 problems solved

[EastCoasthandle]

Windows 7 software unit in the U.S. were 234% higher than Vista’s first few days of sales...
source

[Mussels]

none of that applies to me, but its handy to note nonetheless.

[EastCoasthandle]

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

Back in the day during the i875 and i975 dominance we would always get our chipset drivers directly from Intel. The only issue was that for whatever reason the ICH Family SMBus Controller always had a IRQ conflict that we could never solve. Be that as it may the boards still worked great and never experienced any problems. Then came the X38 chipset and Intel no longer provided drivers for it. I recall reading (I don't recall where) that Intel was never in the business of supplying universal chipset drivers and you should go to your own manufacture/OEM for chipset driver updates.

Since then we have stop going to Intel for chipset drivers. Using them has always been a gamble as they were designed specifically for their own motherboards. However back then they worked well with other motherboards.

Originally Posted by craigo

my motherboard tends to disagree with your statement.
<-- motherboard listed in specs

Then your motherboard is disagrees with you. Take note of the bold portion of my post. There you will clearly see I was implying none intel motherboards. Since it's common knowledge that x38 chipset was found in other brands of motherboards it was clear that I was making reference to them and not intel's motherboard itself. This is why your own motherboard disagrees with you. Because I was not making reference to it. This is why you never quote a portion of a persons post.

[Mussels]

intel DOES supply universal chipset drivers...


you just gotta pick an OS, and it grabs the latest package... just like ATI and nvidia do

[EastCoasthandle]

Originally Posted by Mussels

intel DOES supply universal chipset drivers...


you just gotta pick an OS, and it grabs the latest package... just like ATI and nvidia do

No they do not (also note your link makes no mention of x38/x48/x58/P55 chipset drivers specifically for any motherboard) there is no need to argue this off topic issue in this thread as that is really not the topic of conversation. If you have any further inquire you can by all means PM me.

[Mussels]

it does make a mention.

INF Update Utility -​ Primarily for Intel® 5,​ 4,​ 3,​ 900 Series Chipsets

900 series - 915, P965, etc

3 - P35, G31. etc

4 P45, x48 etc

5 p55, x58


you just arent reading it right.

[EastCoasthandle]

Back at the ranch I found an article that discuss a couple of features that may not have been fully addressed in this thread. You can read the article here to get a full list of those features.
Source

[EastCoasthandle]

Windows 7 dirty little secrets

Here are a few highlights of the article

Russinovich went on to explain why Windows 7 is faster. Memory footprint was reduced by up to 30 per cent by reviewing excessive memory allocations, and by refactoring the Desktop Window Manager (DWM) to avoid a second copy of every Window being held in memory. The registry is no longer accessed as a memory-mapped file, reverting a change made for Windows XP. Processes that consume large amounts of memory are more aggressively pruned.

How about reliability? This was fascinating. Microsoft observed that 15 per cent of all user-mode crashes and 30 per cent of shutdown crashes were caused by heap corruption: applications that try to access freed memory, or memory beyond what is allocated. Its solution was a feature called the Fault Tolerant Heap (FTH).

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If an application crashes a few times, Windows will automatically apply a shim that intercepts its memory operations. FTH will over-allocate memory, and keep a copy of freed memory so that attempts to re-read it will succeed. The user gets better reliability at the expense of performance, which suffers by up to 15 per cent or so, while buggy applications work better than you would expect.

FTH is interesting to say the least. This may actually increase the address space in 32-bit Win7. However more information is needed about how this technically works.
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Russinovich also spoke about the contentious User Account Control (UAC), which prompts the user to approve actions that should require administrative rights. "UAC is not an anti-malware solution," he said. "If you think you are safe from malware because you are in one of those prompting modes, you're wrong. If malware gets on your box, and you are admin, you must assume that malware will gain admin rights."

Proving the point, he showed how a genuine, signed Microsoft executable might load a malicious process, invisible to the user. So what is the point of UAC? "It is about one thing, which is about getting you guys to write your code so that it runs well as standard user."

Odd, I've never found this mentioned until now. So in essence, UAC will not protect you.


Make sure you read all of it here

[A Cheese Danish]

So due to some random issues, I can't get explorer to open in my 7 partition on my desktop.
So goodbye 7 on my desktop. But it will continue to be my main OS on my laptop.
And until I build a new system, I will not run 7 on my desktop.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

Windows 7 dirty little secrets

Here are a few highlights of the article


FTH is interesting to say the least. This may actually increase the address space in 32-bit Win7. However more information is needed about how this technically works.
...


Odd, I've never found this mentioned until now. So in essence, UAC will not protect you.


Make sure you read all of it here

UAC still provides more protection than if you didn't have it at all. It's not a failsafe by any means, but it's better than nothing. That said, I disable it completely. lol

Originally Posted by A Cheese Danish

So due to some random issues, I can't get explorer to open in my 7 partition on my desktop.
So goodbye 7 on my desktop. But it will continue to be my main OS on my laptop.
And until I build a new system, I will not run 7 on my desktop.

Why not?

[Wrigleyvillain]

Originally Posted by Wile E

That said, I disable it completely. lol

I'm about to myself. If it "remembered" better (or really at all in my experience) then it'd be fine and a welcome layer of security.

[johnspack]

This is the most friggin awesome stable os ever! Win7 x64 forever! Love it, powerful, fast, stable, saved my arse many times over. Ten thumbs up!

[Solaris17]

just a tip. if you enable true admin you can get all your icons startmenu stuff back by copying the contents of your user folder to the admin folder. just press CTRL+A (to get hidden stuff like the app data folder) and copy it into the admin folder (choose overwrite all) log out and log into the admin one and its like you never made the switch then you can del your old account to free up the space just a heads

[psyko12]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

just a tip. if you enable true admin you can get all your icons startmenu stuff back by copying the contents of your user folder to the admin folder. just press CTRL+A (to get hidden stuff like the app data folder) and copy it into the admin folder (choose overwrite all) log out and log into the admin one and its like you never made the switch then you can del your old account to free up the space just a heads

So i just hit CTRL+A on my user name under C:\Users then paste it on true admin acount?

[louise071]

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[A Cheese Danish]

Originally Posted by Wile E

Why not?

Well 7 sat on a 640GB drive. And for one, I don't need 7 on that much space.
And no, I can't really afford to get a smaller drive or an SSD for it. So I'm gonna wait till I build a new rig.

[EastCoasthandle]

If you want to get an idea of what programs and/or hardware is compatible with Windows 7 your in luck! Windows 7 Compatibility Center is available to help answer those questions!