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My ds3-r has some vdroop issues I'd like to fix. I'm not touching a soldering iron, and from what I've found there isn't a good working pencil mod for it. I did find this though, which the person says can be done w/ silver conductor. So my question is where can I get this, and how destructive is this if I mess up, and how reversible is it? Never heard anything about the silver fix. Thanks.
 

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Its a good idea to use if using as a full bridge, as in your link. Not to be a replacement for pencil mods tho!

As for reversal, maybe lightly scratching , or a solvent of some sort that wont hurt the motherboard. Also IMO if you are really already worried about removal, you shouldn't attempt it anyways!
 
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Its a good idea to use if using as a full bridge, as in your link. Not to be a replacement for pencil mods tho!

As for reversal, maybe lightly scratching , or a solvent of some sort that wont hurt the motherboard. Also IMO if you are really already worried about removal, you shouldn't attempt it anyways!

Yeah I guess maybe I shouldn't do it. I haven't attempted hard mods of any kind before, but this vdroop is bothering and seemed easy enough. What do you mean by full bridge? From what I could tell this would just involve placing some of the conductor between those two pins, just enough to connect them. Is this correct or no?
 

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yes it is making a bridge between the two points with the silver paint. In a pencil mod you are lowering the resistance, not making it zero resistance as in your mod!
 
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yes it is making a bridge between the two points with the silver paint. In a pencil mod you are lowering the resistance, not making it zero resistance as in your mod!

Ah ok, and that's another thing, this shouldn't be attempted w/o a multi-meter correct? And where could I buy this silver stuff?
 
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Wait.... DS3R has the 6 Phases right? There shouldnt be that much of a vdroop issue o_O

That theoretically could work, though I think it would put more stress on the voltage filtering components that come after the voltage reg/clockgen. Then again i doubt ONE resistor removed from the circuit could really do anything.

The vdroop is mainly because of the inefficiency of the filtering components.
 

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well the mod you are trying , there is no need for a DMM. You arent looking for resistance of any value other than 0.00V with the conductive ink.

You are thinking of a pencil mod, where you takes voltages and lower them. In that instance the Ohms or resistance is measured.

If you put that silver paint on a piece of paper and let it dry I bet there is no resistance there either!

Can be found at my local radioshack!
 
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Wait.... DS3R has the 6 Phases right? There shouldnt be that much of a vdroop issue o_O

That theoretically could work, though I think it would put more stress on the voltage filtering components that come after the voltage reg/clockgen. Then again i doubt ONE resistor removed from the circuit could really do anything.

The vdroop is mainly because of the inefficiency of the filtering components.

Yeah it has 6 phases, but I get some vdroop problems still. I get a .03 minimum vdroop at all times, sometimes it ventures to as great as .1v:eek:, usually somewhere around .05. It's not too bothersome till I start venturing over 3.6ghz, where it starts to compromise my stability. This mod above only had one person verify it, but they said it removed it completely, so I thought it was worth a shot, although only if reversible.
 
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