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It appears my luck with "TheMailBox" is finally changing. I downloaded the a new bios for my board and it added an option "EC Firmware". It had two settings, Normal and Special. I turned it on "Special" and activate the AAC to auto. Rebooted and BAM! 4 CORES! I'm about to run OCCT to see if I'm stable but if I am Ill be at 3.5Ghz with 4 cores!

 

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Congrats man! :D
 
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nice :D see amd is awesome
 

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Nice work, congrats.:)
 
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Congrats on finally getting a Phenom II X4 20 from your X3! :)
 
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Woot, The Mailman gets sweet stuff!! Glad to hear that man. It's all ways good to see that stuff coming out of no where!

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Now I have a dilemma.

What would be a better setup?

CPU: 3.40Ghz w/4 cores
Ram: 1066MHz

or

CPU: 3.49Ghz w/4 cores
Ram: 990MHz
 

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Congrats! Whats the timings and fsb on those options?
 

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Benchmark Scores Benching is for bitches.

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Take option 2. Faster ram does help but can be a very minimal increase. Both options though should in theory perform the same.
 

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Now I have a dilemma.

What would be a better setup?

CPU: 3.40Ghz w/4 cores
Ram: 1066MHz

or

CPU: 3.49Ghz w/4 cores
Ram: 990MHz

I'll pick the first one. Faster memory will speed up better than higher clock speed in this case.

The "AMD uses faulty dice for X3 and X2" argument is increasingly becoming a myth. If AMD is seeing a good demand for the X3/X2 chips, it uses normal Deneb dice. Think about it. X3/X2 outsell X4. Why would a majority of AMD's dice have manufacturing defects?

Have fun with your fourth core.
 

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CPUZ screenie or GTFO :p Really though congrats. I've seen the threads about your problems getting everything set up to your liking. Good to hear you got it taken care of, and now this as a bonus too! :toast:
 

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I'll pick the first one. Faster memory will speed up better than higher clock speed in this case.

The "AMD uses faulty dice for X3 and X2" argument is increasingly becoming a myth. If AMD is seeing a good demand for the X3/X2 chips, it uses normal Deneb dice. Think about it. X3/X2 outsell X4. Why would a majority of AMD's dice have manufacturing defects?

Have fun with your fourth core.

Thanks for the input. I have two opposing opinions here. I was really hoping you would agree with JrRacinFan.

CPUZ screenie or GTFO :p Really though congrats. I've seen the threads about your problems getting everything set up to your liking. Good to hear you got it taken care of, and now this as a bonus too! :toast:
Still not 100% satisfied. Ill post a CPUz screen in a minute ;)

Edit: Here ya go!
 

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Option 2: As said faster RAM won't make much to any of a difference. So might as well go for the faster CPU clock.

But again as JR said, those two setups will pretty much perform identically.
 
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Thanks for the input. I have two opposing opinions here. I was really hoping you would agree with JrRacinFan.

Still not 100% satisfied. Ill post a CPUz screen in a minute ;)

Edit: Here ya go!
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/631185.png

so since your cpu was a black edition CPU-Z recognizes it as a 940 now with the 4th core? awesome haha u just got a free upgrade. Though does it unlock the extra l3 cache with the 4th core?
 

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so since your cpu was a black edition CPU-Z recognizes it as a 940 now with the 4th core?

Where does it say that?

Though does it unlock the extra l3 cache with the 4th core?

The L3 cache doesn't need to be unlocked the full 6 MB is available to Phenom II X3 720. All cache associated with that core (128 KB L1 and 512 KB L2) is what is unlocked because it's part of the core.
 

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Package in the CPU-z has (940) it
 
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in his cpuz screenie
 

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huh didn't know that. that's kinda surprising i mean almost all intels cpu's up till now were lga775 but cpuz would the show the difference, wonder why whoever makes cpu-z didn't make the app able to differentiate between AM+ cpus.
 

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I just can't bring myself to overclock using the multiplier alone... it makes me feel like a noob :(

Isn't there a way you can get it running somewhere between 3.4 and 3.5 with RAM over 1000?
 

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4 cores for price of 3 that is always nice :D. Congrats.
What do you think does KA790GX non platinum edition could unlock 4th core ? And could you unlock Phenom II
550 ?
 
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The "AMD uses faulty dice for X3 and X2" argument is increasingly becoming a myth. If AMD is seeing a good demand for the X3/X2 chips, it uses normal Deneb dice. Think about it. X3/X2 outsell X4. Why would a majority of AMD's dice have manufacturing defects?

Not all of the ones have defects. Where there is an X4 with a defect, they disable to offending portion and add it the stock of X3's and X2's. We are not saying every single chip is this way, most of them are just crippled on purpose to provide those processors in the first place. Basically they always try to build a 955, but when they fail, AMD gives the CPU a pat on the head, new name, and new friends to hang out with.

This practice saves them money on defects that do occur and why some people can't unlock the disabled cores.

I honestly thing the Auto tune calibration is a marketing ploy. Like AMD saying, "hey, its cheap, performs great compared against Intel in the same price, and......you might even get a free upgrade with some work".
 
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Now I have a dilemma.

What would be a better setup?

CPU: 3.40Ghz w/4 cores
Ram: 1066MHz

or

CPU: 3.49Ghz w/4 cores
Ram: 990MHz

I'd take the 990mhz and see if you can tighten up the timings a bit. Also try getting your north bridge to 2600 - 2800mhz as it will improve RAM performance as well.
 
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