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Old 10-08-2009, 09:00 PM     #1
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Borderlands the game

Someone mentioned this to me today and it looks pretty nice. Its rare for me to shell out $ for a game but I am gonna on this one
http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/

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http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/games/borderlands

Here are a few links/Tweeks to help out, thanks to Cyborgmatt
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...d.php?t=998374

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http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...ad.php?t=77748
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...ad.php?t=79043

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3783 (Voice Chat Port)
27900 (Master Server UDP Heartbeat)
28900 (Master Server List Request)
29900 (GP Connection Manager)
29901 (GP Search Manager)
13139 (Custom UDP Pings)
6515 (Dplay UDP)
6500 (Query Port)

Go to http://portforward.com/ then find your router, set a static IP address, then configure your router to allow those ports to be forwarded, remember to click the "Enable" box to the right hand side of the ports after you enter their info, or they won't be activated. Then you can either add exceptions to your Windows Firewall, or turn it off when you game, I'm lazy so I just turned mine off. Taking all these steps helped me to finally get MP working, and I ran over to my friends and did it for him so he can host, all working great now.

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bAllowMatureLanguage=FALSE (changed to TRUE)

TerrainMaterialMaxTextureCount=16
TerrainTessellationCheckDistance=4096.0

worth tweaking for quality?

bUseTextureStreaming=True
i recall this from other games, if you set it to false it'll load it all in one hit (making load times longer, but no textures loading in as you go)

bUseBackgroundLevelStreaming=True

as above


MinTextureDensity=0.0
IdealTextureDensity=13.0
MaxTextureDensity=55.0

quality tweaks, again?


bDisablePhysXHardwareSupport=True
pretty clear, that one

PhysXGpuHeapSize=32
PhysXMeshCacheSize=8

performance tweaks for hardware physX


[Engine.ISVHacks]
bInitializeShadersOnDemand=False
DisableATITextureFilterOptimizationChecks=True
UseMinimalNVIDIADriverShaderOptimization=True
PumpWindowMessagesWhenRenderThreadStalled=False

Hellloooo... ATI and Nvidia specific tweaks. interesting how on an ATI card, mines got the ATI tweaks off, and the NV tweaks on...

[Engine.GameEngine]
bSmoothFrameRate=TRUE
MinSmoothedFrameRate=22
MaxSmoothedFrameRate=62

sounds like some kind of FPS smoother, probably lowers details to improve FPS when lagging

[Engine.Client]
MinDesiredFrameRate=35.000000

see above, looks like its customisable (handy for lag haters)

[XAudio2.XAudio2Device]
MaxChannels=32

more channels for people with higher end sound cards, audio quality tweak?

[TextureStreaming]
PoolSize=140

if poolsize = MB of ram used, this may be a good tweak for users with lots of ram



FOVAngle=90.000000
obvious, this one.

I hear settings like 110 works well for widescreen users.

from a google "PC version of CoD4, the FOV is 65. That is based on the 4:3 view though, at 16:9 it widens to just under 81"

so Cod4 has a narrower view than borderlands default...

GodMode=True

odd, this was on by default.


AllowD3D10=False

obvious really. someone needs to do some testing

MaxAnisotropy=16
MaxMultisamples=1

again, clear.

UseVsync=True


MinShadowResolution=1024
MaxShadowResolution=1024
ShadowFadeResolution=128

^ good way to get extra performance, turn those down

ResX=1920
ResY=1080


^ custom resolutions if needed


[FullScreenMovie]
StartupMovies=2K_logo
StartupMovies=Gearbox_logo
StartupMovies=NVidia
StartupMovies=Loading
SkippableMovies=2K_logo
SkippableMovies=Gearbox_logo
SkippableMovies=Attract
SkippableMovies=NVidia

messing with/deleting these will skip the startup movies


[AppCompat]
MeasuredCPUScore=134.237000
CompatLevelComposite=5
CompatLevelCPU=5
CompatLevelGPU=5

hey look, it has a built in benchmark thing!


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Someone mentioned this to me today and it looks pretty nice. Its rare for me to shell out $ for a game but I am gonna on this one

http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/
You should've seen how impressive it looked before they changed the graphics. I'm still planning on buying it though.

The whole thing of each time played will be unique sounds about the best part about it. All the weapons dropped are randomly generated, aka a shotgun power revolver etc etc. I think it will still be a successful game but I wished they had kept the old graphics.
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yea it looks like fun. im thinking about getting it...what are these old graphics you speak of?
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A picture tells a thousand words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HhRTbQ6XkA

Some gameplay footage from last year before they changed the artwork direction to what it is now. I actually like the new direction, gives a gritty offworld atmosphere, rather than trying for true to life graphics. Too much like a regular fps.

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This link only shows one before, but I have an old Game Informer laying around showing the preview for the game with the old graphics. I'm sure the pictures are somewhere on the net.
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I gotta say I really like the visual style, I'm not always the biggest fan of cell shading methods, but when executed correctly they can look quite good. This title has a lot of promise, and looks like it should play out quite well. I'm looking forward to reading some reviews and maybe getting my hands dirty with this one.
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Can anyone kinda give me a heads up on if it is actually a good game? I believe I saw it for sale on Steam, took one looks and said, meh, Fallout 3 copy. But is it any good? (Post screenies please)
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I am keeping my eye on this, it could be amazing or it could completely bomb. It reminds me of playing in a Madmax type world, which could be awesome, but that new art direction makes me think they went a bit too silly with it. It does look like CO and I play CO and like it, and like the artwork there, but thats a comic game, wee'll see I'll probably be waiting on this to see what others think before I pull the trigger on this title.
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I look forward to this game. Three features I really like...

87 bazillion Gunz - Guns in game are semi-randomly generated. Guns I have or get may not be on your game yet or ever. We can link up online, play the game together and keep any new and interesting loot for single player later. So you don't have to wait for me or anyone to keep going.

Randomly generated maps - The maps, terrain, and "special item" locations are random. Just cause I found a piece of the treasure, certain enemy, etc. here, you may not. This should make replay and co-op play a lot of fun since you can't be sure what you are getting into, even if you have played that section before.

Direction - The original art and focus was to make the game realistic like Fallout 3 and other titles. Somewhere along the line development said, "Screw it, lets just make the game fun." Thus the randomly generate stuff, switch to cell shading, cartoonish characters, and humor.

I plan on getting the 4 pack with some friends so the game is $33.15ish new. I will be glad to post what I think once I get my hands on it, if you guys want. I know I am no one special, but I would be glad to give my opinion from the perspective of someone who was looking forward to it.
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I look forward to this game. Three features I really like...

87 bazillion Gunz - Guns in game are semi-randomly generated. Guns I have or get may not be on your game yet or ever. We can link up online, play the game together and keep any new and interesting loot for single player later. So you don't have to wait for me or anyone to keep going.

Randomly generated maps - The maps, terrain, and "special item" locations are random. Just cause I found a piece of the treasure, certain enemy, etc. here, you may not. This should make replay and co-op play a lot of fun since you can't be sure what you are getting into, even if you have played that section before.

Direction - The original art and focus was to make the game realistic like Fallout 3 and other titles. Somewhere along the line development said, "Screw it, lets just make the game fun." Thus the randomly generate stuff, switch to cell shading, cartoonish characters, and humor.

I plan on getting the 4 pack with some friends so the game is $33.15ish new. I will be glad to post what I think once I get my hands on it, if you guys want. I know I am no one special, but I would be glad to give my opinion from the perspective of someone who was looking forward to it.
PM me if you wanna do the 4 pack together. IF you run outta friends...
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PM me if you wanna do the 4 pack together. IF you run outta friends...
I will double check today and let you know if we have 4 or not. I will PM you either way.
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First I have heard of the 4 pack, is that only for Steam, or consoles also?
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First I have heard of the 4 pack, is that only for Steam, or consoles also?
I think it is for Steam download only. I don't think they will do this in stores. I think L4D did something like this too.
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The same guild mate I play games with out outside MMOs normally told me he wanted to play Boarderlands with me. At first glance I gave 2 shits about it and I don’t normally play RPGs as they typically bore the hell out of me after 50 hours. But a co-op(able) RPG Shooter seems like it would be fun. Only down side is that this guild mate and I typically have the same play style and love sniping meaning we will be fighting to play Mordecai. Ha. I guess I can settle on playing as Lilith in the end as she looks to be my second choice on paper. A few local frinds will be playing it on Xbox Live but I refuse to buy an Xbox just to play this with them.

Zelda Wind Waker and XIII were both awesome cell shaded games. So that kind of art style can be awesome. I am not one of those ‘REALISM OR NO DICE’ snobs.
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Can anyone kinda give me a heads up on if it is actually a good game? I believe I saw it for sale on Steam, took one looks and said, meh, Fallout 3 copy. But is it any good? (Post screenies please)
There's some good screenies and vids over at gamespot ( http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/bo...g=topten;all;2 ), I thought fallout 3 copy too...but this game actually has a good shooting element to it. I enjoyed F3, but that damn vats was more annoying to me than anything after time wore on and it's fps element lacked severely...still was a fun game though. This looks to trump that in the shooting department and the entertainment department for me, it looks like it'll have some decent polish, easy to deal with graphics that while cell shaded are still looking pretty damn good, it looks very promising. It's not out quite yet, I think another couple of weeks or so and it should be released, last I heard it went gold the other day. The more I read and see of this game the more I really want to play it...at this point I'm pretty certain I'll be getting me a copy, and hopefully snagging a couple of clan-mates for coop down the road.

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now if they would just offer it for free with purchase of a new video card...lol
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Just saw a gameplay video of the game.

It looks nice, but i don't want it to be co-op all the time, and i want a good story to go along with it. Looks nice overall tho.
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Thats a let down to hear your all forced into a role, I would like to make my characters, or at least be allowed to have 2 of the same guy on the same team as I don't want to always witch roles.
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Just saw a gameplay video of the game.

It looks nice, but i don't want it to be co-op all the time, and i want a good story to go along with it. Looks nice overall tho.
You don't have to co-op all the time or ever for that matter. I don't think there is a limit to classes when it comes to duplicates in a party, but I am not sure. Hell I am not sure if there is only 4 classes/characters.

Story is ok, but I only have the base. Think of Mad Max meets Raiders of the Lost Ark.....with more guns.
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You don't have to co-op all the time or ever for that matter. I don't think there is a limit to classes when it comes to duplicates in a party, but I am not sure. Hell I am not sure if there is only 4 classes/characters.

Story is ok, but I only have the base. Think of Mad Max meets Raiders of the Lost Ark.....with more guns.
There are only 4 playable characters each having their own unique role. Yea there is no limit on the classes so you can have four tanks, soldiers, scouts, sirens, etc. Each class also has three different skill trees that you can spec into.
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There are only 4 playable characters each having their own unique role. Yea there is no limit on the classes so you can have four tanks, soldiers, scouts, sirens, etc. Each class also has three different skill trees that you can spec into.
Thank god, I was wondering how you would keep your character if they forced you into all playing diff roles, once again sounds cool to me.
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Yeah, this game looks awesome! Can't wait for release.

Usually I am not a huge advocate of Steam, however their 4-pack pre-order comes out to $33.75 a person:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/8980/

Can't beat that with a stick. Edit: Ah I see somone posted about this already.

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Ive seen a couple of vids.. looks kinda repetetive. But if grinding for high damage numbers and random loot drop is your thing, youl' definitely enjoy this..
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What does it mean when you say this is a FPSRPG ??
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