ELSA Intros GeForce 210 Low-Profile PCI-Express x1 Accelerator

btarunr · 11-02-2009, 02:10 PM

Japanese firm ELSA is out with a low-profile graphics card based on the NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU, this one uses a PCI-Express 2.0 x1 interface, for broader compatibility. It makes for an ideal match with PCs that have PCI-Express x16 slots populated. The card retains the simple PCB layout of most of its PCI-E x16 counterparts. The GPU holds 16 shader cores, and a 64-bit wide memory interface, with which it connects to 512 MB of DDR2 memory on this card. Output connectivity includes DVI and HDMI. The company seems to believe the PCI-E x1 interface to be a big incentive to its target buyers, and hence priced it at the JPY equivalent for US $137.

Source: xtreview

Mussels · 11-02-2009, 02:22 PM

expensive, but its good to see another 1x card

i just wish they werent so god-awfully LONG.... most 1x slots tend to have something behind them, making long cards unusable

Roph · 11-02-2009, 03:25 PM

That price is ridiculous.

T3kl0rd · 11-02-2009, 03:30 PM

+1 to Roph's statement. A low end card like that should always be sub $100 dollars. I thought the PCI-e slots were almost exclusively for GPU's anyways, if you already have something in that slot, wouldn't it be a GPU?

Mistral · 11-02-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Japanese firm ELSA is out with a low-profile graphics card based on the NVIDIA GeForce 210 GPU, this one uses a PCI-Express 2.0 x1 interface, for broader compatibility. It makes for an ideal match with PCs that have PCI-Express x16 slots populated...

Maybe I'm missing something but... What is that PC that has its PCI-E x16 slots populated but would need a video card like that one?

Benetanegia · 11-02-2009, 04:54 PM

Some boards only have one PCIe x16 slot, even today, so some people wanting to have many monitors on such computers will benefit a lot from this. This is not for the masses, but as long as there are a few that need something like this, someone will make it, and that is a good thing.

Not always it's all about average joe.

Jizzler · 11-02-2009, 05:08 PM

- mITX board with x1 slot.

- If I had an nVidia card, could throw one of these in to drive the TV without unplugging one of my monitors. And my current board only has one x16 slot, but two open x1's.

- Situation where you need video, but it doesn't matter what. I have the NIC (x4) and RAID controller (x8) in the MCH x16 slots. There's another x4 slot (ICH) where I could put one of these cards.

Not the most common of situations, but that's why it's $100+.

Benetanegia · 11-02-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

- mITX board with x1 slot.

- If I had an nVidia card, could throw one of these in to drive the TV without unplugging one of my monitors. And my current board only has one x16 slot, but two open x1's.

- Situation where you need video, but it doesn't matter what. I have the NIC (x4) and RAID controller (x8) in the MCH x16 slots. There's another x4 slot (ICH) where I could put one of these cards.

http://www.theburnerishot.com/photo/NewServer.jpg

Not the most common of situations, but that's why it's $100+.

A picture is worth a thousand words. The whole example does.

1Kurgan1 · 11-02-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

- mITX board with x1 slot.

- If I had an nVidia card, could throw one of these in to drive the TV without unplugging one of my monitors. And my current board only has one x16 slot, but two open x1's.

- Situation where you need video, but it doesn't matter what. I have the NIC (x4) and RAID controller (x8) in the MCH x16 slots. There's another x4 slot (ICH) where I could put one of these cards.

http://www.theburnerishot.com/photo/NewServer.jpg

Not the most common of situations, but that's why it's $100+.

Notch he back of the x1 slots plastic out and pop an x16 card in there that will be more powerful for less money, problem solved

MikeX · 11-02-2009, 07:06 PM

There is no point in buying these things, however you can get a full 16x version of these and mod your slot put a full card in and get a x1 or x4 w/e your physical slot is

Yukikaze · 11-02-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeX

There is no point in buying these things, however you can get a full 16x version of these and mod your slot put a full card in and get a x1 or x4 w/e your physical slot is

Or mod the card.

Price is horrible. If it were 70$ I'd buy one, currently I am planning on a GT220 on the chopping block for my mITX build.

scope54 · 11-02-2009, 09:07 PM

imo a PCI-E 1x gt220 would make a good physx processor...

DanTheBanjoman · 11-02-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

- mITX board with x1 slot.

- If I had an nVidia card, could throw one of these in to drive the TV without unplugging one of my monitors. And my current board only has one x16 slot, but two open x1's.

- Situation where you need video, but it doesn't matter what. I have the NIC (x4) and RAID controller (x8) in the MCH x16 slots. There's another x4 slot (ICH) where I could put one of these cards.

http://www.theburnerishot.com/photo/NewServer.jpg

Not the most common of situations, but that's why it's $100+.

Or you could just buy any random crap card for $20 and saw 15 lanes off.

1Kurgan1 · 11-03-2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Or you could just buy any random crap card for $20 and saw 15 lanes off.

Why saw a card, when you can just cut the plastic out of the back of the slot on the mobo, much safer.

Mussels · 11-03-2009, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Why saw a card, when you can just cut the plastic out of the back of the slot on the mobo, much safer.

cause the mobos are more expensive.

Jizzler · 11-03-2009, 02:29 AM

Well yeah, of course all of us here can guerrilla mod our parts. But for every one of us, there's 100,000 people or situations that are not about to do it or it's not worth the time.

When it's not my money, I go by the book

u2konline · 11-03-2009, 07:06 AM

the card and price.

ToTTenTranz · 11-03-2009, 04:01 PM

If this wasn't so ridiculously priced, I would think about getting one for one physx.

But this card is worth $37, not $137.

Get me a $45 GT216 card with PCI-Express 1x and I may get into the PhysX bandwagon.

ToTTenTranz · 11-03-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Or you could just buy any random crap card for $20 and saw 15 lanes off.

Wait.. I can actually do that without killing the card?

Mussels · 11-03-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTTenTranz

Wait.. I can actually do that without killing the card?

yes.

someone has a link in their sig to a successful card mod

1Kurgan1 · 11-03-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

cause the mobos are more expensive.

That plastic is easier to cut than sawing into an actual PCB and less risky.

pantherx12 · 11-03-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

When it's not my money, I go by the book

I always give my customers the option of ghetto mods

Most of them go for it

Velvet Wafer · 11-03-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

I always give my customers the option of ghetto mods

Most of them go for it

labeling "buddies" as "customers" is another way to do it!

pantherx12 · 11-03-2009, 05:43 PM

I have had real customers as well XD

just not as many.

btarunr · 11-03-2009, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Why saw a card, when you can just cut the plastic out of the back of the slot on the mobo, much safer.

If your mobo screws up during its warranty period for whatever reason, the mobo maker won't accept a board with that cut slot. On the other hand, $20 cheap card with sawed off PCI-E is safer to the purse.

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