BSEL mod (somewhat like OCing I guess)

zithe · Nov 12, 2009

I haven't been able to get my e2180 stable (In fallout3, other games run adequately without crashing, but I could obviously use more speed) at 2.5GHZ or higher. I've maxed voltage and I hit the same wall. My brother has a similar board and an e2200 and I managed to get his chip past 3GHZ without modding it.

I was wondering if I can't get the chip stable at 2.5GHZ+ through the BIOS, will it not post if I mod it past that point? It's removable so I'm not worried about damaging it, but I want to know ahead of time so I don't waste 6 dollars buying a gold pen and rubbing alcohol. :laugh:

I believe the ACF7 pro should be sufficient for cooling it up to its limits.

I'd like it to hold me off. It's so slow and I have no cash for a new chip. =P

KainXS · Nov 12, 2009

Did you use a different motherboard when you OC'd your brothers PC, all the E21XX cpu's I have had have hit 3Ghz with no problem, even the E2140

zithe · Nov 12, 2009

Yes, his is a Foxconn in a similar price range, although I believe it is nvidia based. (Nvidia 7000 chipset series, I think)

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

i have a BSEL modded e2140, its at 3.2ghz right now and 1.450v

its BSEL mod snit complete its only to 266mhz [not 333] but its easily capable of 400mhz fsb this way [i suspect modding it to 333 would allow it to hit in the 450mhz fsb range all tho im not sure]

btw, at 3.4ghz [420mhz fsb?] i get CPU side FSB interface instability, its kinda weird stuff, it can pass days of linpack and etc, the minute you let the box calm down for like 5 or 6 hours itl crash then

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

The e2180 has a multiplier of 10x. After the mod would I be able to do the original 400mhz bump and be at 3.06GHZ?

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

10 x 400 = 4000

also uhh, there are never really any guarantees for sure.

i know on my board, with my cpu, i can hit 400mhz no problem with the 266mhz fsb mod.
i wish i woulda done 333, and the way i did 266 made it so to do 333 I'd have to remove the other one first ugh.

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

So if it can't get that far naturally, it may have difficulty when forced?

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

dunno, i never tried to do 400mhz fsb naturally, if we lived closer I'd say lets trade for a while and experiment to see what each others cpus can do on each board and find out.

EDIT: which is another thing, i dont know if its cuz i did BSEL mod or because of my board, ASUS p5k

i originally did BSEL mod because i had a VIA chipped board from asrock UGH that thing sucked and it couldn't do any overclocking at all

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

I see. Anyone else able to provide input?

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

oh yeah hey that reminds me, is your e2180 an M0?

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

Yes, why?

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

thats what mine is, i bet they are pretty similar, i guess, i wonder if its the fact that mine is BSEL modded or if its just the motherboard...

does anyone have a g31 board and use it to overclock?

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

Might just have a crappy motherboard. May also be the RAM, as it doesn't go very far, but... It still hits the same wall no matter how low I stick the RAM speeds.

I'm picking up a silver pen today to do it. Maybe around 6 est.

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

for your own sanity if possible make sure you do it to 333 not 266 like i did

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

Oh I will for sure. Fallout 3 at 2.66GHZ (avoiding VAT, of course) just wasn't smooth enough for me. On my friend's phenom II (I know it's not going to reach that power lol) my card ran it consistently, having hundreds of explosives go off and no noticeable drop in FPS was experienced. I'd like it to be at least fast enough to handle garry's mod with a relatively large amount of objects before dropping to 25FPS.

Why don't you redo yours?

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

i did it with a defogger repair kit, im not 100% sure exactly how to remove the stuff now.

zithe · Nov 13, 2009

mrhuggles said:
i did it with a defogger repair kit, im not 100% sure exactly how to remove the stuff now.

rubbing alcohol.

mrhuggles · Nov 13, 2009

i dont think i will have it much longer anyways, i really wanna upgrade, hopeing to get to 4ghz +

zithe · Nov 14, 2009

What did you use to do the BSEL mod? I tried to find the fogger kit at Advanced auto parts, Autozone, and radioshack locally with no luck.

mrhuggles · Nov 14, 2009

oh man im sorry, i dont remember and i dont have the package anymore, i do think i still have the stuff tho

EDIT: question, have you tried 400mhz fsb 1.450v on the cpu? do you have a fan on your northbridge/ram, are you using 1:1 ratio on the memory?

reading tons on google and starting to think that BSEL mod wont help, i don't really see anyone yielding better results than i have, 3.4ghz tops thanks to FSB wall regardless of BSEL mod or not

DaedalusHelios · Nov 14, 2009

I enjoy threads like this because there is a ton of people out there that can benefit from these mods. Considering most motherboards in factory built machines don't have OC options. Just saying thanks and sorry if it breaks the flow.

mrhuggles · Nov 14, 2009

me too.

zithe · Nov 14, 2009

mrhuggles said:
oh man im sorry, i dont remember and i dont have the package anymore, i do think i still have the stuff tho

EDIT: question, have you tried 400mhz fsb 1.450v on the cpu? do you have a fan on your northbridge/ram, are you using 1:1 ratio on the memory?

reading tons on google and starting to think that BSEL mod wont help, i don't really see anyone yielding better results than i have, 3.4ghz tops thanks to FSB wall regardless of BSEL mod or not

I can wander around in windows at up to 275(ish)FSB and it'll run fine. If I play Bethesda games, it has issues. It doesn't crash to desktop, but the game freezes and I have to use Task Manager to close it.

mrhuggles · Nov 14, 2009

huh, thats not high enough... please can you check your pci express clocks while overclocking? im pretty sure sandra can do that all tho i do not know of anything else off hand in windows, 275mhz is right around where my old VIA chipsetted motherboard would fail, thanks to pci express clocks, which is why i did the BSEL mod in the first place, it even had an option in the bios to lock pci express clocks but changing that didn't actually change anything hehe.

zithe · Nov 14, 2009

I don't think it's changeable. Last I remembered, I could only disable/enable "Auto-detect PCIe clock", which I'd disable.
May it just be the result of an inexperienced overclocker with a more difficult board? lol

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