The HD 5970 Clubhouse

Black Panther · Jun 10, 2010

douglatins said:
BP, since i bought a 5850 and made a CF with the 5970, never had any issue again with driver stopped working and such, since the 5850 handles all the video output. And gaming performance has been awesome, if you don't know where your next upgrade is, i recommend

I'm planning a CF mobo come September (+new proc and new ram...)

Apologies for my n00bness but do you mean that you connect your monitor to the 5850 and not to the 5970 while in CF?
:confused:

Lionheart · Jun 10, 2010

Hey guys, I will be getting my HD5970 within a weeks time and I can't wait, I feel like a kid waiting for a christmas present :laugh:

I will be going quadfire like mdsx1950 :rockout:

but not straight away, need cash for other things :toast:

mdsx1950 · Jun 10, 2010

CHAOS_KILLA said:
Hey guys, I will be getting my HD5970 within a weeks time and I can't wait, I feel like a kid waiting for a christmas present

I will be going quadfire like mdsx1950 but not straight away, need cash for other things

Hell yeah! :toast:

Toxics or normal? :cool:

P.S you cant exactly call a 5970 normal so i'll ask again... TOXIC or the beast?

Lionheart · Jun 10, 2010

mdsx1950 said:
Hell yeah!

Toxics or normal?

P.S you cant exactly call a 5970 normal so i'll ask again... TOXIC or the beast?

Lol I was gonna go with the toxic but they jacked up the price again :cry:

It was around $1240 AUD but now its like $1560 AUD :cry:

so its
most likely I will go with BEAST!!! :toast:

dumo · Jun 10, 2010

Quad run

Lionheart · Jun 11, 2010

dumo said:
Quad run

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4843/screenshot124x.jpg

DUDE

do you have that 1090T at that speed 24/7 ??? :rockout:

fullinfusion · Jun 11, 2010

CHAOS_KILLA said:
DUDE do you have that 1090T at that speed 24/7 ???

I highly doubt it, Id like to know what cooling he's running... I think it's a phase unit but I could be mixing him up with someone else

mdsx1950 · Jun 11, 2010

CHAOS_KILLA said:
Lol I was gonna go with the toxic but they jacked up the price again
It was around $1240 AUD but now its like $1560 AUD so its
most likely I will go with BEAST!!!

Yeah the Beast would do. :laugh:

Atleast when the 69xx series comes out, you wont have break a sweat over the price... you'll be able to sell both cards and get two "6970s" with a little additional cash

I think the 6800 series will have about the exact power of a 5970. :eek:

Wonder what sort of games will stress out the card. :eek:

Lionheart · Jun 11, 2010

fullinfusion said:
I highly doubt it, Id like to know what cooling he's running... I think it's a phase unit but I could be mixing him up with someone else

Yeah I was about to say man, that just seems to high for a 24/7 overclock, he must of gotten a good batch cpu :toast:

or watercooling setup maybe :eek:

mdsx1950 said:
Yeah the Beast would do.

Atleast when the 69xx series comes out, you wont have break a sweat over the price... you'll be able to sell both cards and get two "6970s" with a little additional cash

I think the 6800 series will have about the exact power of a 5970.

Wonder what sort of games will stress out the card.

lol true bro, I can't wait till I get one HD5970 let alone 2 HD6970's when they are released :rockout:

that would be crazy :laugh:

fun.

I will be posting up some pics when I get my HD5970 :toast:

dumo · Jun 12, 2010

CHAOS_KILLA said:
DUDE do you have that 1090T at that speed 24/7 ???

Single phase, as long as no condensation then 24/7 is no problem

t_ski · Jun 17, 2010

Anyone liking the Cat 10.6's with your 5970? I saw quite a few performance improvements listed in the release notes.

fullinfusion · Jun 17, 2010

t_ski said:
Anyone liking the Cat 10.6's with your 5970? I saw quite a few performance improvements listed in the release notes.

hell ya! I really like this driver..

old driver stock settings

new cat 10.6 stock same test

Black Panther · Jun 19, 2010

dumo said:
Single phase, as long as no condensation then 24/7 is no problem

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/117/screenshot118uj.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3738/aa1111.jpg

What's the green stuff?

kevc2181 · Jun 19, 2010

I already made a thread about this but it was suggested to me to post here, so I'll just copy and paste it here, thanks!

Hello I've been browsing these forums for a few days soaking up information and I have a few questions. I have 2 Gigabyte 5970 in crossfire. I'm starting to regret buying Gigabyte because one is not working... well sort of. It works fine with the stock cooler on it, but when I put the water block on it stops working. Windows will boot but withing a min or two I get artifacts/lockup or just lockup. I'm using the bitspower black freezer for the 5970, I noticed it does not have the same cut for the CPL-2-50 as the EK block that was causing problems. Mine is all flat. I don't understand why one is working with the water block and the other isn't. I've tried swapping PCI-E slots, water blocks, and testing the cards alone, but it's still the same card acting up every time. Any suggestion???

I wanted to update the BIOS but I e-mailed Gigabyte and they don't have an updated BIOS yet. I've noticed that just about all the 5970s loo the same, so my next question is would it be ok if I flash my card with an updated BIOS from another company? Thanks in advance for any help!!!

***Edit: 3rd question: Should I just RMA it? Or will they just say it works fine with the stock cooler and send it back?

DannibusX · Jun 19, 2010

I picked up an ASUS HD5970 last week, it's an amazing card. I'm currently using Catalyst 10.4a with it, and this thing chews through any game I throw at it.

I was using 10.5 and then 10.6 until yesterday, but I had some problems with Dirt2 crashing and poor performance.

sttubs · Jun 19, 2010

kevc2181 said:
I already made a thread about this but it was suggested to me to post here, so I'll just copy and paste it here, thanks!

Hello I've been browsing these forums for a few days soaking up information and I have a few questions. I have 2 Gigabyte 5970 in crossfire. I'm starting to regret buying Gigabyte because one is not working... well sort of. It works fine with the stock cooler on it, but when I put the water block on it stops working. Windows will boot but withing a min or two I get artifacts/lockup or just lockup. I'm using the bitspower black freezer for the 5970, I noticed it does not have the same cut for the CPL-2-50 as the EK block that was causing problems. Mine is all flat. I don't understand why one is working with the water block and the other isn't. I've tried swapping PCI-E slots, water blocks, and testing the cards alone, but it's still the same card acting up every time. Any suggestion???

I wanted to update the BIOS but I e-mailed Gigabyte and they don't have an updated BIOS yet. I've noticed that just about all the 5970s loo the same, so my next question is would it be ok if I flash my card with an updated BIOS from another company? Thanks in advance for any help!!!

***Edit: 3rd question: Should I just RMA it? Or will they just say it works fine with the stock cooler and send it back?

You've already tried everything you can at home by swapping everything around. I'd try to RMA it next. If they don't accept it then sell the one since it works great with stock cooling.

t_ski · Jun 20, 2010

kevc2181 said:
I already made a thread about this but it was suggested to me to post here, so I'll just copy and paste it here, thanks!

Hello I've been browsing these forums for a few days soaking up information and I have a few questions. I have 2 Gigabyte 5970 in crossfire. I'm starting to regret buying Gigabyte because one is not working... well sort of. It works fine with the stock cooler on it, but when I put the water block on it stops working. Windows will boot but withing a min or two I get artifacts/lockup or just lockup. I'm using the bitspower black freezer for the 5970, I noticed it does not have the same cut for the CPL-2-50 as the EK block that was causing problems. Mine is all flat. I don't understand why one is working with the water block and the other isn't. I've tried swapping PCI-E slots, water blocks, and testing the cards alone, but it's still the same card acting up every time. Any suggestion???

I wanted to update the BIOS but I e-mailed Gigabyte and they don't have an updated BIOS yet. I've noticed that just about all the 5970s loo the same, so my next question is would it be ok if I flash my card with an updated BIOS from another company? Thanks in advance for any help!!!

***Edit: 3rd question: Should I just RMA it? Or will they just say it works fine with the stock cooler and send it back?

I had a brief chat with the ATI engineer who designed the 5970. I was experiencing similar problems to what you are seeing, and I found that the card worked fine once it was heated up a little. He explained that the waterblocks can put additional stress on the cards and cause it to bend, bow, etc. Once the card heats up, the solder joints soften a little and it starts to work fine. At least it did for me.

Try running the loop with your fans off, or your pump off (or both) to heat the loop up quickly. I also found I could run FurMark to heat things up with the fans and pump on high, then stop the benchmark and run the fans on low. I have a few ideas to check out about contact that I plan to investigate if I ever get a chance to put my second block in.

kevc2181 · Jun 20, 2010

t_ski said:
I had a brief chat with the ATI engineer who designed the 5970. I was experiencing similar problems to what you are seeing, and I found that the card worked fine once it was heated up a little. He explained that the waterblocks can put additional stress on the cards and cause it to bend, bow, etc. Once the card heats up, the solder joints soften a little and it starts to work fine. At least it did for me.

Try running the loop with your fans off, or your pump off (or both) to heat the loop up quickly. I also found I could run FurMark to heat things up with the fans and pump on high, then stop the benchmark and run the fans on low. I have a few ideas to check out about contact that I plan to investigate if I ever get a chance to put my second block in.

I tried running the loop with no water and it works fine, just can't test it long because it gets close to 100C fast. I also tried with the pump turned off... I warmed it up to 50C then turned the pump on. It cooled to 35C after the pump was turned on. Then it locked up again =/ The case fans were off, so I may have to heat and cycle the water to warm it all up too(But if that's the only solution I'll probably just try to RMA it or sell it because that just takes too long as a perminant solution) Seems safe to say it's either a cold bug or like you said it may have something to fo with the force of the block on the card. I'll try reinstalling the card using minimal screw tension and see if that works. I'm also going to try thicker thermal pad in a few spots just to make sure everything is making contact.

t_ski · Jun 20, 2010

If you reinstall the card completely (take it out of the loop, clean off any thermal paste, etc). please look for contact issues. I think my problem may be related to the PLX chip having too thick of a pad on it, causing the card to bow. Also, before you remove the block, see if you can put a straight-edge on the backplate of the card to see if it is still flat or not. Please let me know your results with these.

dumo · Jun 20, 2010

Black Panther said:
What's the green stuff?

Liquid tape to seal it from moisture/condensation when using xtreme cold cooler

WhiteHatMAtt · Jun 21, 2010

??? Tips

After Doing way to much reading i have purchased this beast of a card... massive does not do it any justice! :laugh:

(in my 800d i have had to remove the hot swap cover to fit my sr200 res) I was going to go with 2 5870s it was better to go this way to pass it by my wife (besides the rights to brag) had two 5770s in a cfx config before and could play metro 2033 at ok settings, now i figured that i could crank it (benq 25" 1920x1080 res) AA16x nata..... :banghead:

game looks nice but frame rate is poor like 20fps down to 17fps when a sticky bomb goes off?? odd using 10.3 drivers poped it in another pc (thinking it may be my mobo or cpu... HUSH YOU INTEL FAN BOYS!) i7 920 4.2ghz 6gb ddr3 ssd for os and games same bloody thing.,... Called sapphire to see if it was a defective... nope after swapping it for another one same thing.. any ideas? btw at AAx4 works good or is metro 2033 the new rig killer until Crysis 2 comes out... hmmmm for $630 CDN I am a wee bit disappointed
:ohwell:

Black Panther · Jun 21, 2010

WhiteHatMAtt said:
or is metro 2033 the new rig killer

Metro 2033 is a killer. It's the game which gives me the worst performance. I used to think it was because of the rest of my system since I'm running on a dual core E8400 although at 4Ghz, DDR2 RAM and pci-e x16 1.0 :eek:

I'm going to upgrade mobo, proc and RAM in 3 months time...

Right now I'm missing my 5970 :cry:

I'm at the summer house, so using laptop in system specs :ohwell:

I don't remember the exact fps I used to get with Metro, I had just started the game and didn't have time to finish it... but I remember getting lag and thinking wtf I shouldn't be getting this lag with this card even though I maxed all settings. Then I thought probably it's the E8400's fault...

Edit to check if your card is not defective run the Unigine v2 benchmark and compare your scores with those of the rest of us in this thread. If the scores are similar, there's nothing to worry about.

WhiteHatMAtt · Jun 21, 2010

WELL i AM GLAD it is not just me!!!! I was scared there for a bit lol got the new card litteraly as soon as i was done posting (nice thing about owning your own pc shop express delivery on net30 lol) so i will bench it once i am home. ahhhh i was pulling the same scored roughly hmmm the future of gaming you need to drop 2k on cards to max out even then don't be hopeful!

Black Panther said:
Metro 2033 is a killer. It's the game which gives me the worst performance. I used to think it was because of the rest of my system since I'm running on a dual core E8400 although at 4Ghz, DDR2 RAM and pci-e x16 1.0

I'm going to upgrade mobo, proc and RAM in 3 months time...

Right now I'm missing my 5970
I'm at the summer house, so using laptop in system specs

I don't remember the exact fps I used to get with Metro, I had just started the game and didn't have time to finish it... but I remember getting lag and thinking wtf I shouldn't be getting this lag with this card even though I maxed all settings. Then I thought probably it's the E8400's fault...

Edit to check if your card is not defective run the Unigine v2 benchmark and compare your scores with those of the rest of us in this thread. If the scores are similar, there's nothing to worry about.

DannibusX · Jun 21, 2010

Metro 2033 runs like crap on my system at max settings as well, I need to tone it down so I can actually finish the game, lol.

kevc2181 · Jun 22, 2010

t_ski said:
If you reinstall the card completely (take it out of the loop, clean off any thermal paste, etc). please look for contact issues. I think my problem may be related to the PLX chip having too thick of a pad on it, causing the card to bow. Also, before you remove the block, see if you can put a straight-edge on the backplate of the card to see if it is still flat or not. Please let me know your results with these.

I used a level to see if the card is flat, and there seem to be zero bending. I've also checked for contact issues and everything is contacting great. I doubt it is a contact issue tho, because for mine the card will run just fine with no water flow, but when the water is turned back on it locks up. Now maybe there is some bending on the card that isn't easily seen and with high temps it works fine, this could just also be a cold bug. I think I may try a new water block. I'm using the bitspower black freezer and I may try to EK block next.
But then again my other card works just fine with the bitspower block... maybe i"ll just sell it with the stock cooler (works fine stock) and run the good card. I'm not getting much performance gains running them in crossfire to warrant the money I spent on them anyway... gonna ponder all this for a day or two and try a few more things

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The HD 5970 Clubhouse

Black Panther

Lionheart

mdsx1950

New Member

Lionheart

dumo

Lionheart

fullinfusion

Vanguard Beta Tester

mdsx1950

New Member

Lionheart

dumo

t_ski

Former Staff

fullinfusion

Vanguard Beta Tester

Black Panther

kevc2181

New Member

DannibusX

sttubs

t_ski

Former Staff

kevc2181

New Member

t_ski

Former Staff

dumo

WhiteHatMAtt

New Member

Black Panther

WhiteHatMAtt

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DannibusX

kevc2181

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