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[FUD] AMD’s answer to Fermi is Trillian - Specs?

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Current HD 5870 specs
1600 Stream Processing Units
80 Texture Units
128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
32 Color ROP Units
1GB GDDR5 @ 256-Bit

Current Dual-GPU HD 5970 specs
3200 Stream Processing Units
160 Texture Units
256 Z/Stencil ROP Units
64 Color ROP Units
2GB GDDR5 @ (256-Bit x 2)

Possible AMD Trillian specs to take on Nvidia’s Fermi
2400 Stream Processing Units
120 Texture Units
192 Z/Stencil ROP Units
48 Color ROP Units
1536MB GDDR5 @ 384-Bit

Looks slower than HD 5970 but will AMD create a Dual-GPU card with this Trillian?
4800 Stream Processing Units
240 Texture Units
348 Z/Stencil ROP Units
96 Color ROP Units
3072MB GDDR5 @ (384-Bit x 2)

I assume this beast will have slower clock speeds to keep the heat and power low.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17720/34/

Nvidia's Fermi GTX480 is broken and unfixable
Hot, slow, late and unmanufacturable

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/
 
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Haha! Thats the best chance amd has got in many many years, if they don't win this generation, then they'll never win. they even had the time to counter whatever there will be @ launch, this seems to be the answer... That may be ati's ace!
 
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It's fud. Hey according to this FUD article at Semi Accurate, we may never see Fermi. http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/ Broken and unfixable? If taken literally there would be no Fermi. Unless they are going to sell broken Fermi's? I heard this Trillian name before the 5 series launch, it should be interesting. Of course you get the word "tri" out of trillian. Perahps a 3 gpu card? ATi and Asus made a three GPU already.
 

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At 2400 stream, it sounds like 3X800. Btw, we are still waiting for Fermi, so we might never see Fermi in theory.
 
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Just read that article, worrying times for nvidia if these are remotely accurate. Knowing tsmc's run, that article can stand. Thats bad for competition if they don't come out with something. Time for nvidia to start another rebranding rofl.
 

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I hope Fermi comes soon so the 5*** series prices will drop. If nvidia gives up prices will be through the roof.
 

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It's fud. Hey according to this FUD article at Semi Accurate, we may never see Fermi. http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/ Broken and unfixable? If taken literally there would be no Fermi. Unless they are going to sell broken Fermi's? I heard this Trillian name before the 5 series launch, it should be interesting. Of course you get the word "tri" out of trillian. Perahps a 3 gpu card? ATi and Asus made a three GPU already.



There she is. 3850x3 from Asus.
 

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I hope nvidia can do something, if nvidia can't get fermi out soon amd won't need an answer, and everything will get thrown off like when amd couldn't catch up to nvidia back in the G80 days.

. . . . .

and I wanna get a HD5870 cheap:)
 
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I hope nvidia can do something, if nvidia can't get fermi out soon amd won't need an answer, and everything will get thrown off like when amd couldn't catch up to nvidia back in the G80 days.

Nvidia will get Fermi out in mars it may also beat the 5870 or 5970 but it be short live , ATI should have another card out not to long after wich should outperform Fermi...

Don't be shy about the 5870 say it out loud , it's a great card...:D ;)
 
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and I wanna get a HD5870 cheap:)

Don't be shy about the 5870 say it out loud it's a great card

Rofl! Maybe he's coping with the fact that it won't be got for cheap soon! :laugh:

Seriously though, its a lesson for nvidia, they played big mouth, even showing faking cards. They even had a pop at larrabee, now the jokes on who eh?
 
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Crazy to think, another Gen might already be here. I can't remember either NV or ATI ever missing a gen, but it seems ht NV maybe be skipping a whole gen here if trillian lands first, I love ATI, but this isn't the best news as ATI cards prices are slowly on the rise, and the more bad news for NV the higher they go.
 
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its good news for nvidia if they go higher isn't it? cause obviously nvidia is still selling cards and doing ok according to their 4th quarter revenue etc that was posted in another thread. i mean GTX 285's are still $339+ and are 10-20% slower than the HD 5850 which is $300. so yea lol nvidia's name is still selling itself and higher ATI prices will only help em imo. AMD/ATI have to be making headway thou, and i haven't seen any increase in their advertisement so i'm assuming their putting all their cash into next gen's architecture. Hopefully DX11 will start ATI's advertisement in most if not all dx11 games.
 
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It's fud. Hey according to this FUD article at Semi Accurate, we may never see Fermi. http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/ Broken and unfixable? If taken literally there would be no Fermi. Unless they are going to sell broken Fermi's? I heard this Trillian name before the 5 series launch, it should be interesting. Of course you get the word "tri" out of trillian. Perahps a 3 gpu card? ATi and Asus made a three GPU already.
I know for a fact Charlie Demerjian hates Nvidia and Nvidia hates Charlie Demerjian :laugh:
But good find, I should edit and add that link the my first post. I have to agree most of the time Charlie Demerjian is correct which is bad news for Nvidia and Fermi.

And now Nvidia and TSMC are fighting over blame on supply issues.
SPECULATION: :roll:
Nvidia: What the hell is taking you so long with our 40nm Fermi's?

TSMC: Sorry but this Fermi is unmanufacturable, we've tried and tried.

Nvidia: What do you mean it’s unmanufacturable? What the hell is going on in there?

TSMC: Sorry, got to put you on hold, your competitor ATI is on the other line.

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO). So did you contact TSMC to find out what's with all the delays :confused:

Nvidia: Yes sir we did and they've replied back stating that the Fermi is unmanufacturable.:(

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO) WHAT????????:eek: Get me the head Engineer NOW!!!:mad:
Nvidia: Oh, sorry Sir but TSMC is back on the line.

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO) Direct that call to my office now and get me the head Engineer fast.

Nvidia: Yes Sir.

TSMC: So, where were we, Oh, yes we were talking about the Fermi as being unmanufacturable.

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO): This is Jen-Hsun Huang on the line, CEO of Nvidia, what the hell is going over there? Do I have to send one of my associates to investigate this notorious claim that our Fermi is unmanufacturable.:cool:

TSMC: I beg your pardon sir :rolleyes: but indeed that is correct, we've been having problems trying to get this 40nm manufacturing process to work on Fermi but with no luck. It seems your competitor ATI is not having such a problem. As a matter of fact, we've already pumped out over 2 million working units with no issues.

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO): This is unacceptable and misleading. It seems to me you’ve chosen the competitors side and now you’ve jeopardized our business relationship.

Nvidia: I beg your pardon sir but the Engineer you’ve requested is quite busy at the moment but be did mutter something about the Fermi design being hot, slow, late and unmanufacturable.
TSMC: I told you so.

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO): This can’t be, I had a vision and that vision was based on perfection. No matter what you do make sure this information does not surface in the media OK.

Nvidia: Umm, sorry to be the one to break it to you but a reporter by the name of Charlie Demerjian has already broke the news and posted an article about Fermi’s unmanufacturable issues.

(Jen-Hsun Huang Nvidia CEO): This can’t be, but it can’t be, my vision, my my my, visi….n. This is a plot constructed by the competition ATI. TSMC has joined forces with ATI to demolish Fermi. That’s what’s going on, yes that is it, it’s not my vision, no its not……………………………………
 
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I really don't think a 2400-shader new GPU would be in AMD's plans by now.

Truth be told, such a GPU isn't needed. Dual Fermi cards will take too long to appear (if they'll exist at all) and the HD5970 is already faster than the single Fermi card. Besides, if most rumours are correct, a single HD5970 could be cheaper to produce than a Fermi card, at least for the first batches.

I have no doubts that a HD5890 will come out in a couple of months (some big shots over at beyond3D have confirmed it during last weekend). But it should be practically the same GPU with higher clocks, both core and memory, with 2GB. And this should compete with the GTX260-esque Fermi, performance-wise.
 
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I was searching through Google and apparently Nordicahardware revealed the identify of Trillian back in September:

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/amd-radeon-hd-5870-5850-pricing-revealed-66208/
http://www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=723479#723479
A few weeks ago there were reports of another member of AMD's graphics card family Evergreen. The card was code-named Trillian and would not use a special GPU but instead be a very special model. There were talks about three graphics processor but more likely it would be a card with extra display outputs. We have learned that the card will be called Radeon HD 5870 Six and support no less than six monitors, all with 3D functionality.

I think this makes Charlie's statement of Trillian "lurking in the shadows" to mean in the shadows of the 5870 as pictures from that Chinese site shows the Eyefinity 6 5870 uses the same PCB as the 5870 just with the empty slots filled it.
http://semiaccurate.com/2009/08/11/evergreen-has-six-members/
 
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unless TSMC have some magical fps monkeys doing the work for them theres not gonna be a HD5870 X3, the power limits are too high but in this case if there was an x3 ATI would have to drop down the clocks and the voltage even more. and lets say they dropped it off another 125mhz from the HD5970, now at minus 600mhz it wouldn't even be worth it, 2x HD5870 @900mhz = 3x HD5870 @600mhz(all except the memory) and in my mind that would make ATI a laughing stock, and thats not even going of the heat issues.

The current 5970 is acceptable because of the price.
 

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They seldom go in 50% increments. So whatever this thing is, should have 3200 stream processors, 512-bit GDDR5, 28 nm fab process. They called it "Hecatoncheires" (some ancient Greek monster).
 
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They seldom go in 50% increments. So whatever this thing is, should have 3200 stream processors, 512-bit GDDR5, 28 nm fab process. They called it "Hecatoncheires" (some ancient Greek monster).

But that's the next gen, coming late 2010.
Trillian is supposedly coming out next month or so.
 

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But that's the next gen, coming late 2010.
Trillian is supposedly coming out next month or so.

Hah, the only thing new AMD has "in a month or so" is HD 5830. That card is going to kick ass. Nothing else.
 
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They seldom go in 50% increments. So whatever this thing is, should have 3200 stream processors, 512-bit GDDR5, 28 nm fab process. They called it "Hecatoncheires" (some ancient Greek monster).

THE HEKATONKHEIRES (or Hecatoncheires) were three giant gods of violent storms and hurricanes (theullai) summoned forth from the stormy pit of Tartaros. Each had a hundred hands and fifty heads, for the weilding of the destructive power of storm. :D
 
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Nvidia will get Fermi out in mars it may also beat the 5870 or 5970 but it be short live , ATI should have another card out not to long after wich should outperform Fermi...

Don't be shy about the 5870 say it out loud , it's a great card...:D ;)

Right:D

in fact, today AMD already researching for R900 cores or HD 6xxx card, we know all of HD 5xxx series not launched at all (there's rumor about HD 5890 and HD 5990)

so, when fermi release, that's not long before AMD Release their HD 6xxx series. :rockout:

I'm FORMER Nvidia Fanboy who fall in love with ATI CARD since HD 5 series come
 
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the R900 should be in early testing now, research on that core is almost guaranteed done with the R1000 being the one in current development, nvidia is in a similar situation Fermi isn't even out yet but Fermi's next "revision" should be in its development stages, Fermi got hung up on testing and optimizations.
 
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