SemiAccurate gets some GTX480 scores

Sasqui · Feb 22, 2010

Only read a few article from "semiaccurate" and it's obvious they DO exaggerate, but this is interesting none the less:

Headline:
SemiAccurate gets some GTX480 scores
Hot, buggy and far too slow
by Charlie Demerjian
February 20, 2010

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/20/semiaccurate-gets-some-gtx480-scores/

"The GTX480 with 512 shaders running at full speed, 600Mhz or 625MHz depending on which source, ran on average 5 percent faster than a Cypress HD5870, plus or minus a little bit. The sources were not allowed to test the GTX470, which is likely an admission that it will be slower than the Cypress HD5870."

[I.R.A]_FBi · Feb 22, 2010

Whats the problability this is right?

Marineborn · Feb 22, 2010

i loled, even thought thats kinda depressing if this information stands true the price on ati cards isnt gonna drop anytime soon, *cries*

Sasqui · Feb 22, 2010

[I.R.A]_FBi said:
Whats the problability this is right?

I'd totally take it with a grain of salt. The last article I read from them had the chip shipping in 2012... wondering if the site is covertly run by AMD :wtf:

Fitseries3 · Feb 22, 2010

this is from the same guy that basically said fermi = SH*T

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/

pantherx12 · Feb 22, 2010

I say that's due to drivers TBH.

The cards physically have more horse power so its just a case of Nv being able to get all that power to work : ]

I suspect 30% better then 5870 atleast.

diesel700 · Feb 22, 2010

That guy need to get a job with the Daily Mail writing up about Jordan, Cheryl Cole and Simon Cowell rather than busting everyone's B's about hardware.

Sasqui · Feb 22, 2010

Fitseries3 said:
this is from the same guy that basically said fermi = SH*T

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/

Exactly... "shit" in about 2000 words. :laugh:

Marineborn · Feb 22, 2010

lol, before you jump down my throat, im not a fanboy im just stating thats exactly what nvidia keeps hoping for is that people that this stuff with a grain of salt for there many lied release dates and there many pushbacks and lies, and rebrandings, i mean honestly i have no faith in them anymore.

diesel700 · Feb 22, 2010

Could be that Nvidia may have lost heart on Fermi and wants to concentrate on stuff that is finding its way into Laptops, Netops, other woefully gutless PC's and then their Workstation stuff, Quadro, Tesla etc etc. The PC gamer market is probably a drop in the ocean.

When Apple release the new Macbooks with Core i3 or i5, not sure but possibly these won't be using Nvidia (I presume, and that is 'semi accurate' too) but will have either the Intel graphics solution on 'chip' or use the Ati range of cards like Dell are using (whatever the new version of the 4570 is would be a possibility).

Sasqui · Feb 22, 2010

Marineborn said:
lol, before you jump down my throat, im not a fanboy im just stating thats exactly what nvidia keeps hoping for is that people that this stuff with a grain of salt for there many lied release dates and there many pushbacks and lies, and rebrandings, i mean honestly i have no faith in them anymore.

Don't think there's any doubt they've had a tough time getting the "fermi" thing out the door! Lot's of backpedaling, smoke and mirrrors.

I hope it rocks for the very reason we have such kick ass products on the market now - competition!

Dazzeerr · Feb 22, 2010

diesel700 said:
That guy need to get a job with the Daily Mail writing up about Jordan, Cheryl Cole and Simon Cowell rather than busting everyone's B's about hardware.

I agree, all he'd have to do is lessen his vocabulary.

InnocentCriminal · Feb 22, 2010

Now I dislike nVIDIA as a company and their products, however I really want Fermi to hold it's own against ATi so that it can drive prices down.

Part of me is glad nVIDIA are having difficulties (almost like karmic retribution) when another part of me want them to release a really kick ass card so I can be angry at them and want ATi to pull out a response.

*Shakes fist at nVIDIA*

:shadedshu

Don't worry, I am taking this information with a pinch of salt.

CJCerny · Feb 22, 2010

Semi-accurate is definitely an ATI fanboy. Regardless, Nvidia is not going to ship this product at $699 if it is only 5% faster than a $399 ATI product. Benchmarks make it real easy for them (and all the rest of us too) to tell if they've succeeded or failed with RV480. If it is just slighly faster than a 5870, then they'll have no choice but to price it similarly.

razaron · Feb 22, 2010

the gtx480 as most probably going to be faster than the 5970. the same way the 6970/6870x2 is most probably going to be faster than the gtx480.
and i agree with pantherx12 if these benchies are true the drivers would most probably be suckish right now.

Sasqui · Feb 22, 2010

InnocentCriminal said:
Now I dislike nVIDIA as a company and their products, however I really want Fermi to hold it's own against ATi so that it can drive prices down.

Part of me is glad nVIDIA are having difficulties (almost like karmic retribution) when another part of me want them to release a really kick ass card so I can be angry at them and want ATi to pull out a response.

*Shakes fist at nVIDIA*

:shadedshu

Don't worry, I am taking this information with a pinch of salt.

I personally hate them for making everything proprietary... can't run SLI unless you purchase SLI enabled MB, so they make money on both ends. Can't use Physx if your primary card isn't NVidia, money again. Karma may pevail.

InnocentCriminal · Feb 22, 2010

>.<

Don't get me started on why I hate them. However, this made me raise an eyebrow.

_33 · Feb 22, 2010

The info about the fermi chip is probably legit. But we will see in due time.

Error 404 · Feb 22, 2010

razaron said:
the gtx480 as most probably going to be faster than the 5970. the same way the 6970/6870x2 is most probably going to be faster than the gtx480.
and i agree with pantherx12 if these benchies are true the drivers would most probably be suckish right now.

Got anything to back that up? If, with under-developed drivers, the GTX 480 beats a 5870 by around 5%, what makes you think that drivers alone would raise this card to be more powerful than a 5970?

I'd like the GTX 480 to beat the 5870, but only to see the prices of it drop. 5970 can (and probably will) stay top dog until nVidia manages to shoehorn a second GPU onto their PCB, GTX 295 style.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Feb 23, 2010

I think the drivers are part of the issue but the hardware sucks as well.

Super XP · Feb 23, 2010

pantherx12 said:
I say that's due to drivers TBH.

The cards physically have more horse power so its just a case of Nv being able to get all that power to work : ]

I suspect 30% better then 5870 atleast.

You should read this article. Fermi looks like it's going to be less than 10% at best faster than current NVIDIA cards. Fermi is full of problems, and that article explains it very well with reliable sources within NVIDIA's Engineering Department. This is what happens when NVIDIA's CEO doesn't listen to his GPU designers. They said Fermi has problems and it needs a re-work and the CEO said F**K Y*O, continue and make it work no matter what.

Now we'll see Fermi GPU's out for sale trying hard to compete with ATI and ATI will dominate in Price/Performance which means ATI cards are going to drop just so NVIDIA can get hammered further in the pocket book

LINK:
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/

Error 404 said:
Got anything to back that up? If, with under-developed drivers, the GTX 480 beats a 5870 by around 5%, what makes you think that drivers alone would raise this card to be more powerful than a 5970?

I'd like the GTX 480 to beat the 5870, but only to see the prices of it drop. 5970 can (and probably will) stay top dog until nVidia manages to shoehorn a second GPU onto their PCB, GTX 295 style.

The high end Fermi is producing over 280W of power, I don't see NVIDIA coming out with a Dual-GPU anytime soon, probably not with this Generation unless people want to fry burgers on there Fermi's

. I think NVIDIA needs to claim defete, release what they can shove the pride aside and re-work Fermi and make it what it was meant to be the right way IMO

Duffman · Feb 23, 2010

I wanted to wait for Fermi....but ran out of patience

BarbaricSoul · Feb 23, 2010

Sasqui said:
"The GTX480 with 512 shaders running at full speed, 600Mhz or 625MHz depending on which source, ran on average 5 percent faster than a Cypress HD5870, plus or minus a little bit. "

I'll believe it when Wizzard confirms it.

DonInKansas · Feb 23, 2010

Anyone believing anything on a site called semi-accurate.....

.....well, you figure it out. :roll:

pantherx12 · Feb 23, 2010

Super XP said:
You should read this article. Fermi looks like it's going to be less than 10% at best faster than current NVIDIA cards. Fermi is full of problems, and that article explains it very well with reliable sources within NVIDIA's Engineering Department. This is what happens when NVIDIA's CEO doesn't listen to his GPU designers. They said Fermi has problems and it needs a re-work and the CEO said F**K Y*O, continue and make it work no matter what.

Now we'll see Fermi GPU's out for sale trying hard to compete with ATI and ATI will dominate in Price/Performance which means ATI cards are going to drop just so NVIDIA can get hammered further in the pocket book
LINK:
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/

The high end Fermi is producing over 280W of power, I don't see NVIDIA coming out with a Dual-GPU anytime soon, probably not with this Generation unless people want to fry burgers on there Fermi's. I think NVIDIA needs to claim defete, release what they can shove the pride aside and re-work Fermi and make it what it was meant to be the right way IMO

So you know the sources are actually engineers and such like?

TBH semiaccurate is like watching fox or sky news, you should always double check what you've just seen/heard :laugh:

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