HELP! building my 1st new rig,any cheap ideas?

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

hey guys im building a new PC was wondering if you guys have any good cheap ideas....trying to get this PC to do it all, game for hours, videos, media.prob overclock it alittle..and want it cheap LOL here is some ideas...maybe trying to keep it under 1200$

i would like
ie7-950
8gb of ram(DDR3-1066, that's the best speed right?? :confused:

or is it the 1866)
1gb graphics card
600watt power supply (not to sure what ill need :confused:

)
1TB HD

led case/great cooling system

MAYBE LIKE THIS for starters lol cuts budget in half haha

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monitor and speaks and keyboard i have....or ill upgrade later date.

lilkiduno · Nov 13, 2010

this is my "list":

DVD Burner: $17 @ newegg

HDD: WD Black 2x1TB $90 each @ newegg

RAM: OCZ Reapers 2x 2GB $80 at newegg

Cooler: CORSAIR Hydro H70 $110 at Newegg

Case and CPU: Coolermaster HAF X and AMD X6 1090T combo'd for $384 at Newegg

Graphics and PSU: XFX 5850 and XFX 650 Watt Modular PSU for $375 at newegg

Asus m4a89td pro: $175 @ newegg

Total shipped <to my house anyways>:$1338.77
MIR's: $80
Grand Total: 1258.77

theonedub · Nov 13, 2010

lilkiduno said:
Case and CPU: Coolermaster HAF X and AMD X6 1090T combo'd for $184 at Newegg

$384

Had me thinking I was missing out on something spectacular for a second :laugh:

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

yes 384$ i would of loved the 184!! haha

so you would only do 4gb of ram?when they say 1600, large number faster or slower? these all good brands?does it matter lmao??

no mobo?and with that cooler i assume you would replace the one for the cpu?

sorry for idiot questions i can take them apart and put them together but don't know whats good and whats not kinda. haha

lilkiduno · Nov 13, 2010

Haha damn sorry yes I forgot the motherboard. Sorry, and $384 sorry hit the wrong button. I will post one after a little bit when I get on a computer posting from my phone now.

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

all good haha

lilkiduno · Nov 13, 2010

Asus m4a89td pro: $175

The larger number on the ram the faster. This motherboard supports 2000mhz.

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

nice nice, any other ideas?? was wanting ie7 950...your board better?

n-ster · Nov 13, 2010

where are you located?

I specialize in i7 lga 1366 builds so hopefully I'll be of great service

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

n-ster said:
where are you located?

I specialize in i7 lga 1366 builds so hopefully I'll be of great service

michigan, any luck?? lol

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

n-ster · Nov 13, 2010

you near Detroit? If so, Microcenter is a great place to buy the processor

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

wayne county area , canton.....great what kind of prices we talking....ie7 950/960

n-ster · Nov 13, 2010

Just to be clear, i7 920/30 and i7 950 are basically the same, just factory overclocked, therefore worth no more than ~5$ more because its cooler to have a higher number lol

Price is OK, 230$+tax = ~244$, still cheaper than Newegg...

Perhaps the best Bang/buck however, is to go AMD 1055t or 1090t.

- Would a smaller PC (mATX) be a plus or a minus?
- How much are you willing to overclock?
- How much gaming do you actually do? what are the most demanding things you want to do?
- Are you into music?
- What monitor were you considering using?

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

so you would get the 920/930 over the 950....only diff is overclocking?? if so that would save me allot of GREEN!

man really confused now LMAO....if you where me, wanting a PC to DO IT ALL....what mobo would you recommend?

n-ster · Nov 13, 2010

The motherboard really depends... If you do small overclocks, and won't upgrade much later, better get a cheap mobo and invest somewhere else

For a small OC, a 1055t with a AM3 785 chipset would be dirt cheap, while if you are looking for a nice OC with a nice enough mobo, a 1090t + M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 would be nice, but will cost 170$ more than the previous setup

- Would a smaller PC (mATX) be a plus or a minus?
- How much are you willing to overclock?
- How much gaming do you actually do? what are the most demanding things you want to do?
- Are you into music?
- What monitor were you considering using?
- When is the next time you think you will upgrade?

Answer these question and we can find what is best for you

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

Ok great

-dont understand size/matx?? if its the size of MOBO, and acually size..no i guess it doesnt matter lmao sorry
-overclock i know how and i would do, just nothing crazy ,would hope the system i get can do everything i ask lmao
-gaming i DID allot back in the day COD,BF2,so if i loaded one up or got a new game i would want it to handle the graphics...scale 1-10 10 being high gaming i do about a 4 right now. but when i game i game for long times and high res....most demanding things would be speed, DVD/CD burning i do allot of, and file transfer i do allot.
-music i love have over 300,000 songs,like to use system as a source to listen to my music
-i have a 19inch LCD , but may be selling, so i would LIKE to upgrade if in budget
-this will be the last time for a long time, this will be my first time i build it myself, I want this one to last and do anything i need it for. So if i had to put a timeable on it, ill say about 4-5years...unless i get millions haha

I hope this helps and thank you so much for all your help!!

n-ster · Nov 13, 2010

definitively nee a new monitor, a nice cheap sound card doesn't sound bad either. Guess we will do a standard size build as size doesn't seem to matter, 2 DVD burners seems to be best, later on perhaps some headphones may be in your best interest. I suggest getting a good mouse / Keyboard if you don't already also.

SO right know, a 1090t build I suggested earlier seems great, else an i7 seems good too

I'm guessing you do not want to mess around with watercooling right? I'll try to price up a nice build for you

idk if I can before I leave in 8 mins to go teach a class, but else, when I come back

EDIT: I gtg but:

mobo w/ USB 3.0 and hopefully Sata 6gbps with at least 2 PCI-E slots
CPU- i7 920/30/50 or E5620 or 1090t
memory- 2x4GB or 3x2GB or more depending on budget and system
GPU- depends on budget again. 6870 in Crossfire would be ideal

2x DVD burners, try to get 24x Samsungs as they are quiet n fast in my experience
Screen, At least 21.5", preferably 23", try to get Samsungg, but ASUS or Acer are fine. LED 1080p or a 2048x1152 if you want, though I'd suggest the LED.
Case- off the top of my had, Lian-Li K62, HAF 922/932/X CM 690 II are good cases
Cooler- cheap but effective and compatible is Hyper 212+, I see no need for more
Perhaps a fan controller + some fans, depends on case and your tolerance for noise
PSU- Corsair AX/HX750/850 or XFX 750/850 Are great choices.... there are others but these are the ones I know the best
Keyboard- If you can find one, an OCZ Elixir (not 2) is dirt cheap and is great, sorry no real experience with other keyoards
Mouse + mousepad- idk mousepad but mouse there are quite a few, being lefty, I love my Rapoo V8, very subjective
Soundcard- Xonar DS or DX
Do you need a wireless card?
Thermal paste- Microcenter has some OCZ Freeze, else MX-2 or MX-3 is good, probably better even
Hard Drive- the 1002FAEX WD should be good enough, then get a 64gb A-DATA SF-1222 SSD if not 2 in RAID-0
5~10$ cathodes are cool

Hope it helps

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

water cooling wouldnt be bad....idk...probably would it nice and expensive.....maybe just water cool the cpu, if thats even possible, nothing ells fans can do the rest haha(or all depending on price, im pretty good at keeping systems clean and cool)....dont know much about 1090t, seems id go with ie7 but then again i thought ie7 950 was EXTERMLY better then 920/930.....as far the TWO dvd burners...idk, id like to get a really fast DVD/CD burner and a great blueray player with a nice screen like i had on old setup...burning 1 CD/DVD at a time is fine, if i could burn them fast im in good shape....right now i just got done with burning 500 CD's haha so dont think ill be burning much more in future haha. transfering large files/burning/listening to music/watching movies/surfing net is probably what ill do most of in that order. then gameplay

Widjaja · Nov 13, 2010

Personally keep things simple and bang for buck.

CPU:-i7 920
Depending on the motherboard either 2X2GB or 3X2GB RAM
My Brother uses Corsair ram and has and no complaints.

GPU:-
One 6850 or 6870 1GB GPU

MB:-
ASUS or Gigabyte for the Motherboard brand.
Don't need to go all out with the Motherboard as the higher end you go the more PCI-E slot are added and I feel are excessive nowadays.
Make sure it's USB 3.0 and SATA 3 capable

HDD
Samsung F3 HDD or WD Black HDD

PSU
Corsair Modular PSU 650W or Thermaltake Tough power (both cheap and reliable)

Case:- Fractal make a really nice case which I have been thinking of getting.
Like the pre fitted sound absorbing material.
Good price too although it does not come with the LED lights, just some white fans but then i now prefer minimal when it comes to the look of a case.

Additional Recommended:-
ASUS Xonar sound card.

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

sounds great ill look into it thanks alot!! any detailed specs??(links, of prices or item in paticular?)

was also thinking 8gb ram.

maybe ill combine all the ideas....so ie920/930 seems like mostly recommended,i always thought i7-950...prob save me some good GREEN for a sound card

thanks again

also a note...can get a 19" BRANDNEW LENOVO LCD for about 85-90$ this any good?
HP LE1901wi 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor
or
Lenovo ThinnkVision L197 Widescreen LCD Monitor

newguy24 · Nov 13, 2010

wondering what is good for a monitor, whats makes a monitor "GOOD"??

newguy24 · Nov 14, 2010

anyone got any list of a system build for about 1000-1200 price range....that meet requirements above????

n-ster · Nov 14, 2010

When are you planning to buy, I have no time until MAYBE tomorrow MAYBE Monday, but Tuesday for sure

(have Hockey tournament AND Poker tournament tomorrow... and I'm broke so I can't lose the Poker tourney)

Widjaja · Nov 14, 2010

n-ster said:
When are you planning to buy, I have no time until MAYBE tomorrow MAYBE Monday, but Tuesday for sure

(have Hockey tournament AND Poker tournament tomorrow... and I'm broke so I can't lose the Poker tourney)

Are you selling n-ster?
What n-ster has is most probably the most ideal for you.

Straight forward system.

newguy24 said:
wondering what is good for a monitor, whats makes a monitor "GOOD"??

Lower the ms the better.
Most monitors nowadays come out with 5ms at the lowest.

Since where I work is a HP retailer, the best monitors I have seen from HP are the ones used for graphics and design.
Very sharp image and the ms aren't bad.

Higher the ms rating the higher the chance you will see what is called "ghosting"
Like a trail behind the mouse but with anything on screen.

Unfortunately in my case I bought a dud from Samsung.
It has a function called RTS which is supposed to be a ms booster, to boost it from 5ms to 2ms but there were some batches they sold which had a cheap and or faulty panel which did not work with RTS causing ghosting anyway.

Processor	Intel Core i7-950 3.07ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte X58-usb3
Cooling	Hyper 212 plus
Memory	12gb 6x2GB geil
Video Card(s)	HD6870
Storage	1tb samsung spinpoint
Display(s)	LG e2350 monitor
Case	Lancool PC-k62
Power Supply	Corsair HX850watt
Software	Windows 7

System Name	The "H3X" / beaut
Processor	AMD X6 1090t /Intel Q6600
Motherboard	GIGABYTE 990FX UD3 / eVGA 780i FTW
Cooling	Corsair H70/ Stock Intel
Memory	8GB Mushkin Silverline Enhanced 1333 / 4 Gigs Corsair Dominator ddr2 1066
Video Card(s)	XFX 5850 /eVGA 9800 GTX+ (dual SLI)
Storage	OCZ Vertex III 120 GB + Hatichi 1TB / WD Blue 640GB
Display(s)	3x Acer S211H/ (buddies) Vizio 37" LCD HDTV
Case	Corsair Obsidian 800D / Antec 900
Power Supply	Corsair 850 Modular/ Corsair 750
Software	Win 7 Ultimate /Windows Vista Ultimate

System Name	Erakith \|\| AsRock NUCS
Processor	AMD ThreadRipper 2990WX ES (32c/64t 3.5ghz@1.02v) \|\| Intel i7 1360P Raptor Lake-P
Motherboard	MSI X399 MEG Creation \|\| AsRock OE
Cooling	EK Supremacy TR4 Full Nickel, D5 w/ EK Top, 2X EK-CoolStream XTX 360 & Photon 270 Res \|\| OE
Memory	32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4 3000\|\| 2x16GB Corsair DDR4
Video Card(s)	Vega 64 EK FC\|\| Intel Iris Xe
Storage	250gb WD Black NVMe & (2) 2TB Intel 660p NVMe \|\| 2TB Corsair MP600 Pro
Display(s)	34" Dell Ultrasharp U3415W
Case	CaseLabs Merlin SM8 \|\| Aluminum Unibody
Power Supply	Corsair HX1000
Mouse	Corsair Harpoon Wireless RGB
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB w/ Cherry MX Silent
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64 \|\| WIndows 11 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	WCG & F@H Only

Processor	Intel Core i7-950 3.07ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte X58-usb3
Cooling	Hyper 212 plus
Memory	12gb 6x2GB geil
Video Card(s)	HD6870
Storage	1tb samsung spinpoint
Display(s)	LG e2350 monitor
Case	Lancool PC-k62
Power Supply	Corsair HX850watt
Software	Windows 7

System Name	The "H3X" / beaut
Processor	AMD X6 1090t /Intel Q6600
Motherboard	GIGABYTE 990FX UD3 / eVGA 780i FTW
Cooling	Corsair H70/ Stock Intel
Memory	8GB Mushkin Silverline Enhanced 1333 / 4 Gigs Corsair Dominator ddr2 1066
Video Card(s)	XFX 5850 /eVGA 9800 GTX+ (dual SLI)
Storage	OCZ Vertex III 120 GB + Hatichi 1TB / WD Blue 640GB
Display(s)	3x Acer S211H/ (buddies) Vizio 37" LCD HDTV
Case	Corsair Obsidian 800D / Antec 900
Power Supply	Corsair 850 Modular/ Corsair 750
Software	Win 7 Ultimate /Windows Vista Ultimate

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Processor	Ryzen 5900x \| Ryzen 1920X
Motherboard	Asus ProArt x570 Creator \| AsRock X399 fatal1ty gaming
Cooling	Silent Loop 2 280mm \| Dark Rock Pro TR4
Memory	128GB (4x32gb) DDR4 3600Mhz \| 128GB (8x16GB) DDR4 2933Mhz
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 3080 \| ASUS Strix GTX 970
Storage	Optane 900p + NVMe \| Optane 900p + 8TB SATA SSDs + 48TB HDDs
Display(s)	Alienware AW3423dw QD-OLED \| HP Omen 32 1440p
Case	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 rev 2 \| be quiet! Silent Base 800
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x + sleeved cables\| EVGA P2 750W
Mouse	Razer Viper Ultimate (still has buttons on the right side, crucial as I'm a southpaw)
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman Elite, Pro Type \| Logitech G915 TKL

System Name	Darth Obsidious
Processor	Intel i5 2500K
Motherboard	ASUS P8Z68-V/Gen3
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push Pull
Memory	2X4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	ASUS R9 270x TOP
Storage	128GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Green
Display(s)	LG IPS234V-PN
Case	Corsair Obsidian 650D
Audio Device(s)	Infrasonic Quartet
Power Supply	Corsair HX650w
Software	Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP Home
Benchmark Scores	2cm mark on bench with a razor blade.