My overclock: Comments from the experienced w/ DualCore AMD Athlon64 x2 CPU users...

Alec§taar · Jul 20, 2006

POGE said:
Tried 1.6 yet?

No, not yet... tackling other "Fish to Fry" right now, you know how it goes!

Slightly larger ones!

(Not a GOOD day for me on a personal note: I had to listen to familial hassles & straighten out a conflict & old disagreement, plus money related duties... they are #1, crass as that may sound on the money end, & family is #1 truly).

NOTE TO YOU, I AM SOMEWHAT CONCERNED (from my post above, a quote & edit):

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"I know it makes a difference in memory intensive applications & things like F@H & SETI though...

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=50711

(E.G.-> If you note our team here for F@H above in the URL? My single system is outracing others using 2-3 machines (I_am_Mustang_Man iirc, runs 2 diff. rigs doing this) & HOT on the tail of a person (W2hCYK 46 units, & I am @ 45 now, 1 behind ONLY) running up to 6 @ once doing that project)"

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(That was last night... around the time of our last postings to one another)

The reason I am somewhat concerned is that a few hours later (today in response to you now)?

I am showing 64 units... odd! EDIT PART - yea, way odd - not even 1 hr. later, it's showing 67 units now...

TOO BIG OF A JUMP imo, & something might be wrong!

So, I am worried this is adversely affecting my mem's accuracy! I.E.-> HOW ON EARTH DID I JUST JUMP IN ONLY 12 HOURS, UP TO 64 units from 45?

I don't have enough machines OR CPU power to pull off 20 units in 1 day... even w/ this overclocks increases.

QUESTION: To test potential ram inaccuracies due to o/c? Use something like SuperPI, or can you suggest a BETTER tool? Thanks!

All else seems fine though, other than THAT!

*************

Still, on 1.6V? Not that it isn't something I won't try, I will!

(As it cannot hurt if I don't try to "COOK" my CPU pushing it around too hard & heating it up too much, right? IIRC, CPU's today have "heat brakes" in them anyhow... will stall out before cooking totally)

AND, I just redo it again if it messes up... no biggie, just time-consuming (to redo the BIOS stuff is all).

APK

P.S.=> E.G.-> When I did that first o/c attempts on my own, w/out experienced guidance on the RAM tightens?

Believe-it-or not, I actually "Blew my BIOS settings" back to default somehow when I rebooted after that... odd, I know (but I had workarounds & noted them in this thread earlier)!

(& lol, it actually LOCKED ME UP during the POST test, & had artifacts on the screen (only time I was "spooked" actually during this whole process))... apk

Alec§taar · Jul 20, 2006

POGE:

1.6V on CPU now, seems stable so far (about 45 min., normal use posting here, emailing etc.)... 1.6V makes me a BIT leery though, is this OK??

I may need to monitor temps while in Windows, rather than rebooting & using BIOS hardware monitor type stuff... it might cool off enough by then? Oh, lol, I dunno!

ANYHOW:

I stepped back though on the mhz (left mult. @ 11 too) used in the o/c equation though, since I raised the volts like that...

Currently @ 247mhz x 11 = 2723.3mhz total o/c now

Also, I changed from LDT (HyperTransport Frequency - screenshot you took is like mine) of 3 to 4 as well!

It seems stable enough this way, thusfar, w/ those changes!

Still, I have to ask the experienced here, as I do not feel like "Blowing my CPU" or memory controller, etc. (RAM not SO concerned about, as I could use faster RAM, lol, & a GOOD excuse to do that!)

So, all that said?

I suspect a problem!

See above (in regards to F@H) or, in short, here:

Not "critical" but spitting out possible memory errs etc. (one instance of F@H here was "hung up" when I turned them BOTH off & reset my speeds downwards. It may be a F@H "glitch", they happen, but never has before in 45 units done - suddenly, today? I am @ 67 units last I looked & no way this o/c sped me up enough to pop out 20 units in 1 day, no way).

* Need to know what tool/program to use to "Ferret-Out" potential memory errs due to "over-pushing" my o/c or RAM!

Thanks POGE... or others!

APK

P.S.=> Well, 5-6 hours later, it appears to NOT be affecting F@H that way anymore... perhaps it was just a "glitch" in F@H itself, or my NOT running the CPU @ 1.6V was it? Asking advice... apk

POGE · Jul 21, 2006

Download Memtest86, its a great memory stability testing program. For CPU stability testing I recommend Prime95

After that, keep lowering your FSB until it passes a full Memtest86 test. Then, if your CPU speed will probably have been reduced greatly because of the lower fsb, you can pop the cpu multi up to 12x to make your cpu run faster, while keeping your memory at the stable speed.

Note: This is only if your problem is your memory. I myself find this somewhat unlikely, since your already running it UNDER the rated speeds... but we will see. IMO its more likely a cpu stability issue. I would run Prime95 for a while to see if its your CPU thats causing the issue. If it doesnt pass the test, I'm pretty sure ite your CPU and not your memory. If this ends up to be true, youll want to nake your multiplier down another notch to 10x, leaving your mem the way it is, and slowing your CPU down a little.

Alec§taar · Jul 21, 2006

POGE said:
Download Memtest86.

Will do!

* So far, it's been "Good", for HOURS now... but, that didn't show up (F@H lunacy, lol, 20 units in 1 day - impossible) until hours after you & I signed out last nite!

This looks like THE THING to test @ this point, just to be sure (who'd think F@H would be a good memory test, eh?)

Anyhow - question: HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE TO RUN IT?

(In other words, is this one of those "burn-in" type tools that you have to run & run, & RUN forever, or does it stop on its own?)

Thanks!

APK

P.S.=> Did a look up on it, apparently, it is somekind of bootup disk floppy test, could be DOS, could be Linux driven, but now I see the deal on it (disregard questions, & thanks)... apk

Alec§taar · Jul 21, 2006

Guys, gonna post this again on next page!

Damn page breaks... I can't let this get buried & all that!

(Tatty One, message to you in it, see next page - thank you!)

APK

demonbrawn · Jul 21, 2006

I am excited to see your progress! I can't wait until I get all my mod pieces in this weekend so I can finally put my system back together and try to start overclocking again. This entire thread is a great ground-breaker for newbies like me, especially ones w/x2 CPUs.

BTW: I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but just in case, "manyana" is actually spelled manan, just with a little "~" over the 1st "n."

Anyway, good luck on further testing.

Alec§taar · Jul 21, 2006

ON EXCITED? Hey, me too... others can gain by it w/ X2's too though, so worth it!

I am a "NOOB" @ this level of pursuit in it, this is certain!

I am a BIT spooked @ doing this in the HOT weather we have been having worldwide, but I can think of NO BETTER "Stress Test"... if it holds now, & all is stable after tests POGE & others suggested here?

WELL, then I know it went well! Of course, I am a WEE bit afraid of wrecking my rig, but nobody "twisted my arm" to risk this (that I want to say to cover your butts, more than mine etc.)

I am getting better & better @ it though!

Especially w/ help from these guys (Tatty One, Ketxxx, & POGE especially (he not only told me what to do, but why (mechanics & logic of it, best thing since sliced bread, gave me the fishing pole & taught me the MOST on fishing so far with it)).

Not "Shorting" the other 2 guys either, but maybe I just understood him better, or he was just more patient? I don't know, but either way??

SHE'S WORKING & FAR FASTER THAN I EXPECTED/HOPED FOR (2.6 was all I wanted, I am pushing up near 2800 at best o/c thusfar)

APK

P.S.=> By Saturday, I think I'll have "nailed down" where I want to be, & in high ambient temps... but, have to test like mad!

Makes you nuts!

IMO, this is NOT easy/simple @ this level of it, especially because of the damn permutations/possibles involved not only in CPU stuff, but memory too (Ketxxx has been extremely helpful here, as has POGE)... & it actually has tired me out!

Oh, on "Manyana":

I don't know how it was spelled, so... I "hooked on phonic'd" it, lol!

Thanks for info., that way in the future? LOL, I don't look stupid if I use it again! apk

Alec§taar · Jul 21, 2006

Poge &/or Tatty One, Please Read!

Tatty_One said:
Looks good but that only tells part of the story, run Sandra bandwidth test...its more thorough and let me know the results.

Sorry for missing this too man...

* I will do that, once I "stress test" the memory & find out if THAT was my hassle with F@H noted above...

If not, I will try what others suggested in:

1.) POGE - 225FSBx12Mult @ 1.6V (& possible DDR-400 use again, NOT "fudge" DDR3 divider stuff)

2.) Your ideas...

* I'll tell you all 1 thing though, for sure - this is maddening! Takes time, effort, & possible screwups in running programs, but in the end? WORTH IT imo, love speed/performance is why!

APK

P.S.=> Anyhow/anyways: Again, though, guys... I am fried tired! Gotta rest... see ya "manyana"...

Tomorrow, I'm going to run Prime95, SuperPI, & MemTest86, & see what is what on their results!

(Doing that while I sleep - EDIT PART, I did, it's solid - no problems!) if F@H screws up again on my currrent O/C reset (backed off some)...

OH, BY THE WAY - W2hCYK, one of my F@H teammembers here turned me onto something, I may NOT have been "unstable", check it:

For F@H - I use the "FORCEASM" switch on the commandline/consolemode/tty/DOS mode version!

(& it WARNS AGAINST USING IT ON AN "o/c'd" rig, lol... man! Will wonders NEVER cease! I knew that, but disregarded it/blew it off, before I was doing o/c's... now, lol, it may be biting me in the you-know-what here, misleading me!)

Still, going to run it overnite w/ -forceasm, & see "what's-what" as it is now:

A.) Slowed down a tad to 2723mhz <- 2728mhz

B.) Upped to 1.6v on CPU (per Steevo & Ketxxx (+ Tatty One also) suggestion(s))

C.) HyperTransport Frequency/LDT @ 4x now, up from 3x!

(Guys, that last one - that is yet another one I need to know if "Good" or "Bad", like I asked Tatty One about in 1t vs. 2t above)... apk

POGE · Jul 22, 2006

Now that I've tought you how to overclock, teach me how to code.

Tatty_Two · Jul 22, 2006

And did u get my message!

Alec§taar · Jul 22, 2006

POGE said:
Now that I've tought you how to overclock, teach me how to code.

You already know how to, this much I know (albeit using diff. toolsets than I do, & that is enough)...

Principals are principals, are principals in ANY language you use - you know the questions to ask in other tools because of the languages/toolsets you've used before... you just have to find analogs via syntax & codeblocks in them is all!

Heck, for instance/example:

By knowing the questions already?

E.G.-> I know how to open a file in VB, read/write it, & close it (a must typically)... well, now that I am using C++ or Delphi (examples), how do I do it there?

You're 50% of the way there.

I.E.-> I (right now) can & have worked w/ 10 languages on computers, on any platform pretty much, & that's how I think of it...

Fact is, I had to jump into .NET that way, & can work w/ it easily enough now!

All imo, because I knew the analogs (some of which did NOT work the same way, you cannot think "functionally" (procedural) in it, you HAVE to think "object oriented" in it, & my roots? Procedural & before that, drop-down OLD-SCHOOL programming).

Coming from a C background years before, going in to C++? Same thing happened to me, I had to "learn to think a different way" & it was HARD to do imo! At least initially!

I still tend to be more procedural in nature in my coding (sometimes, objects backfire too, & in .NET it shows in speed (lack vs. C/C++ & Delphi for instance) & also manifests itself in bloat!

Too much so imo (& not that it's an interpreted language via CLR, another slowdown) even STRINGS are objects & I don't need an object to do a "hello world" level proggie imo. For big projects they are great for maintainability & also CLR is great for secure code, trade off.

I am sure you do as well and can & have done the SAME thing & run into the same conclusion... & if not? You will.

Language doesn't matter, & neither does syntax... principals of design, do, & w/ imo, little variance between languages.

APK

P.S.=> Coding's work @ times... there isn't always a "canned solution" out there OR code you can 'bite off of' because for instance, in business MIS/IS/IT databasing? Nobodies' data is the same 2x generally, or their business process - you ADAPT to it! apk

Alec§taar · Jul 22, 2006

Tatty_One said:
And did u get my message!

Got it!

* Thanks!

APK

P.S.=> Fellas (ALL): 2 last questions (one I asked above, not answered & 1 new one):

1.) Why is it "so important" to not sacrifice a multiplier (e.g.-> Going from 11x to 12x for instance) in your eyes, if dividers can grab you back 99% of a RAM's rate via FSB pickups (is this to avoid overheats?)

&

2.) LDT HyperTransport rates which default @ 5x initially - I have managed to go from a 3x HT change up to 4x... is this desirable?

Thanks...

Cuz once I know the principal to achieve here? I will go for a 225fsbx12 multiplier w/ a 4x HyperTransport (LDT) setup & see how it goes on 1.6v & possibly even going DDR-400 here (I don't expect "success" on the DDR-400 part though)... apk

Tatty_Two · Jul 23, 2006

I think the general rule always seems to be get your overclock using the highest possible multiplier in order to keep the FSB as low as possible so you have less issues such as memory speeds, HTT etc etc.

Some say they have found their systems run more stable with an overclock with a lower multiplier and higher FSB.....in my personal expereince that has never been the case, always the opposite but my expereince has only been with an xp3000 Barton, athlon 64 3200 venice and my current Manchester Dual Core.

And yes, as a rule of thumb, the higher the FSB the more the heat but I think to a cetain extent the overall speed mainly determines that wether it be 2.8gig at 10 x 280 or at 11 x 254.

Oh and on the HTT multiplier/speed, yes the higher the better providing it's stable but there is almost no performance difference.

Alec§taar · Jul 23, 2006

Cool!

Ok then, tomorrow I will be "unavailable" (going to N.Y. City) for most of the day, & do not expect to be back until VERY late or the next day.

Tonite, I've committed myself to going to a "blues festival" w/ my neighbor & #1 chess opponent (220+ games straight (MOSTLY, neck & neck) but he has beaten me 10/1 our last 11 games so, part of a bet on our last game (few minutes ago in fact) was for him to win to get me to go to a blues concert to tune me into it).

So again - this 225 fsb x 12 mult POGE suggested (@ 1.6v on CPU) will have to wait for a day or two, but...

You can "bank on it" that I will try it!

As is, so far, @ 2723.2mhz (via 247.6 FSB X 11 multipler) I am running 100% stable & even F@H hasn't screwed up (still using -forceasm switch too)...

Whereas pushing the LITTLE BIT MORE on a higher FSB backfired on me, to some extent, in 1 app: F@H!

(That imo, made F@H do its little dance on me a few days back noted above & in the F@H thread, ruining my SCORE measure... was worth it really, as a good stability test in lieu of Prime95/SuperPrime, SuperPI, & MemTest86 etc.).

Until then? I have to wait & then get back to you guys with results on the test of 225fsb x 12 mult., but I will try it & let ya know!

APK

P.S.=> Where are my manners? Thanks for the quick feedback Tatty One... apk

POGE · Jul 23, 2006

Alec§taar said:
Got it!

* Thanks!

APK

P.S.=> Fellas (ALL): 2 last questions (one I asked above, not answered & 1 new one):

1.) Why is it "so important" to not sacrifice a multiplier (e.g.-> Going from 11x to 12x for instance) in your eyes, if dividers can grab you back 99% of a RAM's rate via FSB pickups (is this to avoid overheats?)

&

2.) LDT HyperTransport rates which default @ 5x initially - I have managed to go from a 3x HT change up to 4x... is this desirable?

Thanks...

Cuz once I know the principal to achieve here? I will go for a 225fsbx12 multiplier w/ a 4x HyperTransport (LDT) setup & see how it goes on 1.6v & possibly even going DDR-400 here (I don't expect "success" on the DDR-400 part though)... apk

1. "Sacrificing" a multiplier isn't always a bad thing, but it was in your case when you were running your memory on a divider. Instead of running it on a divider you could simply lower the FSB and raise your CPU multi, getting the same speed CPU and slowing down your ram enough where it could run without a divider. This doesnt always work, but thats what I was thinking about when I told you to raise your multi. This is why I want you to try 12x. Running your memory on a divider is always slower than running your memory 1:1.

2. 4x should be fine for you, since you arent running your FSB above 250... 4 x 250 = 1000, which is what you are aiming for.

Here is a chart of what you should set your LDT Multi to relative to your FSB.

FSB.........LDT
000-200...5x
201-250...4x
251-333...3x
334-500...2x
500-999...1x

Any more questions, just ask.

Now, my turn.

About the programming... you somehow avoided telling me anything on HOW to actually program in your last responce?

Something like a howto guide on C++... and how do I make a front end for my programs?

PS: Take a look at my avatar code, I think you might be interested.

(see link in my sig)

Alec§taar · Jul 23, 2006

POGE said:
1. "Sacrificing" a multiplier isn't always a bad thing, but it was in your case when you were running your memory on a divider. Instead of running it on a divider you could simply lower the FSB and raise your CPU multi, getting the same speed CPU and slowing down your ram enough where it could run without a divider. This doesnt always work, but thats what I was thinking about when I told you to raise your multi. This is why I want you to try 12x. Running your memory on a divider is always slower than running your memory 1:1.

2. 4x should be fine for you, since you arent running your FSB above 250... 4 x 250 = 1000, which is what you are aiming for. Here is a chart of what you should set your LDT Multi to relative to your FSB.

FSB.........LDT
000-200...5x
201-250...4x
251-333...3x
334-500...2x
500-999...1x

Any more questions, just ask.

Ah... thanks man! You guys have been invaluable, & I have had SEVERAL of you to refer to & check your references to me, against one another's as well for dual or more verifications/2nd doctor's opinions.

POGE said:
Now, my turn.

About the programming... you somehow avoided telling me anything on HOW to actually program in your last responce? Something like a howto guide on C++... and how do I make a front end for my programs?

Well, afaik? You told me you're a JAVA/javascript man, indirectly (because of your chat program running in browsers here, neat stuff imo & really does add a nice featureset to a forums)... now, I have heard tell of compiled java that has front-end building tools, but I am NOT aware of them, as I am not "into" JAVA (& 'muddle my way' thru javascript).

For you? C++ is the way, you'll take to it like a duck to water... imo @ least. Big market for it still, & you can program ANYWHERE using it, provided you don't use CPU family specific calls & all that!

I use Borland C++ Builder 6.0 here, when I am FORCED to do C++... & it is NOT my fav tool/language to use, not by a longshot (Delphi & VB6 are, w/ emphasis on the former... next would be VB.NET & ASP.NET).

In my DOS/UNIX days, C was my fav, until I hit Windows... doing a Windows program in MSVC++ 2.0 was the LAST time I used it, & its "resource studio" for building interfaces, did not like it!

Borland C++ Builder though, by way of comparison: It's as easy as it gets imo, especially for interface building...

Now, from what I hear (but I don't use it in Visual Studio, I use VB.NET or ASP.NET to talk to the CLR (common-language runtime)) Visual C# can do interfaces with ease, but again: Not a user of it myself.

POGE said:
PS: Take a look at my avatar code, I think you might be interested. (see link in my sig)

Ah, lol, nope... you're WAY too confident in it, putting up that vidcard as the prize! IMO, it's HULL IS PURE NEUTRONIUM, THERE IS NO KNOWN WAY OF BLASTING THRU IT, etc. ala my sig!

(When I pick a fight OR battle w/ a problem (or people, but this I TRY to avoid, unless it comes my way first), I choose my battle's wisely, or think so @ least, because I am one of those "Study the enemy, seek weakness" people)...

Nope, & you're WAY too confident of it imo, for me to "Burn Time" on trying to 'crack it'!

(Steganography... is it your bag/thing?? To be honest - I am NOT sure what you mean by "decode it": It's not a program, so I don't know what you mean to be quite honest (to me, that means disassembly via a debugger) - are you using an alternate datastream or something?? Those don't travel across the wire if you are... just some FYI if this is what you mean!)

APK

POGE · Jul 23, 2006

Ok... one question I dont think you answered...

How do I add a GUI to my programs?

bigpuns · Jul 24, 2006

On a side note...

Hiya, Im a newbie having trouble, and this is the closest thread i could find to fit my predicament...

I have an Athlon 64 3200 on a Gigabyte GA-K8N Pro-Sli mobo. Tried oc'ing the cpu through bios, just by upping the vcore and frequency a small way. However, when I then saved and exited, post went a bit spazzy, spouted a message about "CPU is over clock speed blah blah..." then restarted the machine. Did this over and over, would not let me back into bios to change owt back and the only way out of the problem was to reset CMOS. Ive tried nothing and Im all out if ideas. I understand these mobos are a bit cackypooh when it comes to oc'ing anyway but would like to do better than I am, and you guys seem to be the bizznazz.

Hope you can help,

Puns

i_am_mustang_man · Jul 24, 2006

bigpuns said:
Hiya, Im a newbie having trouble, and this is the closest thread i could find to fit my predicament...

I have an Athlon 64 3200 on a Gigabyte GA-K8N Pro-Sli mobo. Tried oc'ing the cpu through bios, just by upping the vcore and frequency a small way. However, when I then saved and exited, post went a bit spazzy, spouted a message about "CPU is over clock speed blah blah..." then restarted the machine. Did this over and over, would not let me back into bios to change owt back and the only way out of the problem was to reset CMOS. Ive tried nothing and Im all out if ideas. I understand these mobos are a bit cackypooh when it comes to oc'ing anyway but would like to do better than I am, and you guys seem to be the bizznazz.

Hope you can help,

Puns

start a new thread with all this info, plus the core name, and what's the default vcore, as well as the freq's you've been getting. if you don't know how to check this, get cpu-z, it rocks. google it

Alec§taar · Jul 24, 2006

I did above, but no biggie...

POGE said:
Ok... one question I dont think you answered...

How do I add a GUI to my programs?

Well, I tried to... You're a JAVA man, right?

Problem is? I'm not - NOT REALLY!

(Could I figure it out? Probably, given time).

See, I never REALLY liked doing "browser programming", or server-side applets, & certainly not w/ JAVA!

(I have done that type of work though, in NSAPI/ISAPI via C/C++ &/or Delphi in the past - touchy imo, & prone to memory leaks)

However, lately - ASP.NET I do know to a decent degree (for "browser programming", really server-side) & like it well enough (Server Side like ISAPI) & it is far easier, faster than ASP is, & very safe (CLR assures this, & no leaks too, garbage cleanup like JAVA).

Not the same though. Not like Java imo!

So, that all restated? No REAL idea for putting a GUI front on a JAVA driven app, again, as I don't "Do Java"!

(However, I did suggest alternate languages (C++) & tools (See above) that imo, you'd pick up on in a snap due to java exposure, that do GUI easy / RAD style).

APK

P.S.=> If you're not inclined to build in another tool like Borland C++ builder? There are tools like JBuilder from Borland, & Visual J++ from MS - but, I am admittedly not a user of them!

Moving this to "PM" now, I wrote you more there on it... see ya & thanks again all for helping me achieve a 324mhz++ increase on CPU overclock & 195 of 200mhz rating on my RAM speed as well (nearly perfect here also)... apk

Alec§taar · Aug 1, 2006

Here are my latest results, overclock is higher than I have ever run it here thusfar:

* Here is my score, JUST SHY of 1400 (can't break it, & weather's TOO HOT to try for a higher o/c imo, @ least for this summer (topping 100F today around here))

APK

P.S.=> Ran this test to see how far I could o/c (again & so far, seem stable, even in 100F ambient temps today) & see if I could compete w/ dj dn's Opteron 165 DualCore rig @ a competition in this thread here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14736&page=2

I am 39 points shy of his rig hitting 1446++ scores on ScienceMark 2.0... & don't dare "push" harder than this in this heat, imo @ least... apk

Alec§taar · Aug 1, 2006

POGE ought to find this interesting: I changed my FSB & multiplier to 12x finally...

Well, highest overclock I am able to achieve thusfar in this heat, running @ 45C in BIOS, & here it is:

2400mhz stock -> 2772.1mhz o/c'd using 12x multiplier X 231 FSB)

CPU mhz

RAM mhz

* Well, POGE - there you are! She's @ the 12x multiplier, & lower FSB (front-side bus)...

APK

P.S.=> Scores on ScienceMark actually are HIGHER using 11x mult. by 250mhz FSB though & test runs more stable as well, completing ALL tests that way...

Still, the point is there in that I can do the HIGHER 12x multiplier & lower FSB & still get really NICE overclock out of it (372++ mhz overclocked overall gain)!

HOWEVER, RAM speed rating seems to be suffering:

I only seem to hit 184/200mhz on the RAM though using this 12x multiplier, whereas I was hitting 196/200mhz on 11 multiplier...

QUESTION - which is better in your opinions (using the lower multiplier 11x by 250mhz FSB, OR the newer/latest results using 12x multiplier by 231mhz FSB)? apk

Alec§taar · Aug 1, 2006

GOT A BIT MORE (found out I have "fractional multipliers")...

Got a BIT more outta it, now... to test stability!

2400mhz stock -> 2822.2mhz o/c'd for grand total of 482mhz overdriven gain, running @ 47-50C in BIOS temp. monitors...

(Played w/ multiplier more, & found out I have "fractional" multipliers, & tried 11.5, here are the results (fastest I have seen yet, & RAM is matching DDR-400 speeds (albeit, set @ divider of DDR-333 rates)):

CPU-z CPU portion

&

CPU-z RAM portion

* I am pretty sure that IS the best I can do, & keep my mhz on the CPU high (over 2822.2mhz) & RAM Speeds ratings above DDR-400 rate (201mhz over 200mhz stock)...

APK

P.S.=> Comments from the peanut gallery are appreciated, especially regarding the RAM speeds being better (over 200mhz DDR-400 rating now @ 201mhz) using 11x or 11.5x multiplier vs. 12x multiplier (though it gave me really nice o/c on CPU, ram was too slow imo)... apk

randomperson21 · Aug 1, 2006

POGE said:
Ok... one question I dont think you answered...

How do I add a GUI to my programs?

Well, if you use java, a really nice app is Microsoft Visual J#.
Its free, pretty easy to use, and if you screw up some of your code, its pretyt lenient on what at stops at. Personally, being sort of a n00b programmer, i like it because it doesn't balk at little stupid mistakes that take me hours to debug using Sun's compiler.

Also, it comes with a very nifty WYSIWYG drag and drop gui maker. Just drag in the buttons, etc, you want, and the program will automatically generate the code for it. Then just navigate to the button's subroutine, and add the function that you want it to execute in.

hope that helps.

Alec§taar · Aug 1, 2006

POGE, Ketxxx, & Tatty One: Wrote you in PM, see above & this screenshot set now

CPU-z CPU portion

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CPU-z RAM portion

* I don't think I can find a "better balance" of CPU mhz rating & RAM rated speed (198.5/200mhz DDR-400, set @ DDR-3 mulitipliers).

APK

P.S.=> Comments are appreciated, & feedback on the RAM mhz to rating relationship, vs. that of just CPU mhz overdriven gains... apk

Processor	DualCore AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ (o/c 2801mhz STABLE (Ketxxx, POGE, Tatty One, ME))
Motherboard	ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (PCIe x16, x4, x1)
Cooling	PhaseChange Coolermaster CM754/939 (fan/heatsink), Thermalright heatspreaders + fan built on (RAM)
Memory	512mb PC-3200 DDR400 (set DDR-33 for o/c) by Corsair (matched pair, 2x256mb) 200.1/200mhz
Video Card(s)	BFG GeForce 7900 GTX OC 512mb GDDR3 ram (o/c manually to 686 core/865 memory) - PhaseChange cooled
Storage	Dual "Raptor X" 16mb 10krpm/RAID 0 Promise EX8350 x4 PCIe 128mb & Intel IO chip/CENATEK RocketDrive
Display(s)	SONY 19" Trinitron MultiScan 400ps 1600x1200 75hz refresh 32-bit color
Case	Antec Super-LanBoy (aluminum baby-tower w/ lower front & upper rear cooling exhaust fans)
Audio Device(s)	RealTek AC97 onboard mobo stereo sound (Altec Lansing ACS-45 speakers - 10 yrs. still running!)
Power Supply	Antec 500w ATX 2.0 "SmartPower" powersupply
Software	Windows Server 2003 SP #1 fully patched, & massively tuned/tweaked to-the-max (plus latest drivers)

Processor	DualCore AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ (o/c 2801mhz STABLE (Ketxxx, POGE, Tatty One, ME))
Motherboard	ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (PCIe x16, x4, x1)
Cooling	PhaseChange Coolermaster CM754/939 (fan/heatsink), Thermalright heatspreaders + fan built on (RAM)
Memory	512mb PC-3200 DDR400 (set DDR-33 for o/c) by Corsair (matched pair, 2x256mb) 200.1/200mhz
Video Card(s)	BFG GeForce 7900 GTX OC 512mb GDDR3 ram (o/c manually to 686 core/865 memory) - PhaseChange cooled
Storage	Dual "Raptor X" 16mb 10krpm/RAID 0 Promise EX8350 x4 PCIe 128mb & Intel IO chip/CENATEK RocketDrive
Display(s)	SONY 19" Trinitron MultiScan 400ps 1600x1200 75hz refresh 32-bit color
Case	Antec Super-LanBoy (aluminum baby-tower w/ lower front & upper rear cooling exhaust fans)
Audio Device(s)	RealTek AC97 onboard mobo stereo sound (Altec Lansing ACS-45 speakers - 10 yrs. still running!)
Power Supply	Antec 500w ATX 2.0 "SmartPower" powersupply
Software	Windows Server 2003 SP #1 fully patched, & massively tuned/tweaked to-the-max (plus latest drivers)

Processor	Turion 64 ML-34 1.8Ghz
Motherboard	Compaq Laptop Mobo
Cooling	Stock Compaq Laptop Fan
Memory	1x 256 DDR333
Video Card(s)	Radeon 200m
Storage	40GB 5200RPM HP
Display(s)	Stock Laptop LCD
Case	Laptop Case
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Realtek
Power Supply	Stock Laptop Powerbrick
Software	Windows XP Pro

Processor	DualCore AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ (o/c 2801mhz STABLE (Ketxxx, POGE, Tatty One, ME))
Motherboard	ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (PCIe x16, x4, x1)
Cooling	PhaseChange Coolermaster CM754/939 (fan/heatsink), Thermalright heatspreaders + fan built on (RAM)
Memory	512mb PC-3200 DDR400 (set DDR-33 for o/c) by Corsair (matched pair, 2x256mb) 200.1/200mhz
Video Card(s)	BFG GeForce 7900 GTX OC 512mb GDDR3 ram (o/c manually to 686 core/865 memory) - PhaseChange cooled
Storage	Dual "Raptor X" 16mb 10krpm/RAID 0 Promise EX8350 x4 PCIe 128mb & Intel IO chip/CENATEK RocketDrive
Display(s)	SONY 19" Trinitron MultiScan 400ps 1600x1200 75hz refresh 32-bit color
Case	Antec Super-LanBoy (aluminum baby-tower w/ lower front & upper rear cooling exhaust fans)
Audio Device(s)	RealTek AC97 onboard mobo stereo sound (Altec Lansing ACS-45 speakers - 10 yrs. still running!)
Power Supply	Antec 500w ATX 2.0 "SmartPower" powersupply
Software	Windows Server 2003 SP #1 fully patched, & massively tuned/tweaked to-the-max (plus latest drivers)

Processor	DualCore AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ (o/c 2801mhz STABLE (Ketxxx, POGE, Tatty One, ME))
Motherboard	ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (PCIe x16, x4, x1)
Cooling	PhaseChange Coolermaster CM754/939 (fan/heatsink), Thermalright heatspreaders + fan built on (RAM)
Memory	512mb PC-3200 DDR400 (set DDR-33 for o/c) by Corsair (matched pair, 2x256mb) 200.1/200mhz
Video Card(s)	BFG GeForce 7900 GTX OC 512mb GDDR3 ram (o/c manually to 686 core/865 memory) - PhaseChange cooled
Storage	Dual "Raptor X" 16mb 10krpm/RAID 0 Promise EX8350 x4 PCIe 128mb & Intel IO chip/CENATEK RocketDrive
Display(s)	SONY 19" Trinitron MultiScan 400ps 1600x1200 75hz refresh 32-bit color
Case	Antec Super-LanBoy (aluminum baby-tower w/ lower front & upper rear cooling exhaust fans)
Audio Device(s)	RealTek AC97 onboard mobo stereo sound (Altec Lansing ACS-45 speakers - 10 yrs. still running!)
Power Supply	Antec 500w ATX 2.0 "SmartPower" powersupply
Software	Windows Server 2003 SP #1 fully patched, & massively tuned/tweaked to-the-max (plus latest drivers)

System Name	Sony Vaio - VGNFW390-CTO
Processor	Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9550 (2.66GHz)
Cooling	Stock
Memory	4GB DDR2-SDRAM (DDR2-800, 2GBx2)
Video Card(s)	ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3650 with 512MB vRAM (pitiful card)
Storage	320GB SATA Hard Disk Drive [7200 rpm]
Display(s)	LCD 16.4" (XBRITE-FullHD™)
Audio Device(s)	SupremeFX
Software	Windows 7

Processor	Rocket Lake Core i5 11600K @ 5 Ghz with PL tweaks
Motherboard	MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE + 4 Phanteks 140mm case fans
Memory	32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel 4133Mhz DDR4 @ 3600Mhz CL14@1.45v Gear 1
Video Card(s)	Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC
Storage	WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS)
Display(s)	AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1
Power Supply	Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular
Mouse	Coolermaster Storm Octane wired
Keyboard	Element Gaming Carbon Mk2 Tournament Mech
Software	Win 10 Home x64

Processor	Athlon 64 3200
Motherboard	GA-K8N Pro-Sli
Cooling	G-power-pro and LOTS of fans
Memory	2GB Corsair CL2, dual channel
Video Card(s)	X800GTO2 (@ X850XT...)
Storage	WD 250GB SATAII
Display(s)	20.1" Belinea widescreen TFT
Case	Ebuyer special
Audio Device(s)	Some old creative thingy
Power Supply	Tagan 580W
Software	Games

Processor	AMD X2 AM2+
Memory	2GB DDR2
Video Card(s)	7900gto
Storage	80GB+120GB 7200RPM IDE + 250GB SATA2 + 500GB SATA2
Display(s)	26" 1920x1200
Case	Antec Nine Hundred
Audio Device(s)	OnBoard
Power Supply	Ultra 600W with X-Connect
Software	Vista Ultimate

Processor	AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ @ 2.4Ghz
Motherboard	ECS NForce4 A-939
Cooling	CPU: Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu GFX: Zalman VF-700AlCu, 2x120mm+5x80mm w/ Ultra 7ch Fan Controller
Memory	Kingston 2x512MB DDR PC3200 Dual Channel 3-3-3-8
Video Card(s)	EVGA Nvidia 7900GT KO Superclocked
Storage	2xSeagate Barracuda 7200.8/9 160GB SATAII NCQ in RAID0: 300GB total capacity
Display(s)	Samsung SyncMaster 941BW (19" widescreen, 1440x900)
Case	Antec P180B
Audio Device(s)	Built in. 5.1Ch Logitech Z-5500 500w soundsystem, digital Coax connection
Power Supply	Spire 500W
Software	Windows Vista Ultimate

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