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Old 01-20-2005, 10:25 PM     #1
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MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond/Platinum SLI & MS-7125 K8N Neo4 Platinum Bios and Tools

Introduction


On this page you will find all important things to overclock/tune the MSI nForce4 boards, so you have everything on one page including beta stuff.

BIOS Files



MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond/Platinum
Official K8N Diamond Page at MSI | Official K8N SLI Platinum Page at MSI


v01 Coolaler W7100NMS Coolaler-01 120604 17:00:34

W7100NMS_01COOLALER.zip
v.1.0 Beta 19 W7100NMS 1.0.19 Ultra 120604 17:00:34
W7100NMS_1019.zip
v1.00 Final W7100NMS V1.0 123104 11:09:44 W7100NMS_100.zip
v3.00 Final W7100NMS V3.0 123104 11:29:55 W7100NMS_300.zip
v5.0 Beta 1 W7100NMS V5.0B1 011005 18:27:11 W7100NMS_501.zip
v1.1 Beta 1 W7100NMS V1.1B1 011305 13:57:35 W7100NMS_111.zip
v1.1 Beta 3 W7100NMS V1.1B3 020205 18:10:13 W7100NMS_113.zip
v5.0 Beta 2 W7100NMS V5.0B2 021405 21:23:33 W7100NMS_502.zip
v1.10 Final W7100NMS V1.1 021705 21:57:00 W7100NMS_110.zip
v1.20 Final W7100NMS V1.2 031105 10:13:03
W7100NMS_120.zip
v5.0 Beta 4 W7100NMS V5.0B4 031805 16:11:37

W7100NMS_504.zip
v5.0 Beta 5 W7100NMS V5.0B5 033005 21:12:52

W7100NMS_505.zip
v1.3 Beta 3 W7100NMS V1.3B3 041205 17:26:09
W7100NMS_133.zip
v5.0 Beta 6 W7100NMS V5.0B6 050305 10:25:15

W7100NMS_506.zip
v1.3 Final W7100NMS V1.3 051005 10:53:30

W7100NMS_130.zip
v3.3 Final W7100NMS V3.3 051005 11:01:31

W7100NMS_330.zip
v1.4 Beta 4 W7100NMS V1.4B4 052405 21:43:18

W7100NMS_144.zip
v5.0 Beta 8 W7100NMS V5.0B8 053105 13:49:33

W7100NMS_508.zip
v1.4 Final W7100NMS V1.4 060205 11:21:04

W7100NMS_140.zip


MSI MS-7125 K8N Neo4 Platinum
Official K8N Neo4 Platinum Page at MSI



















v1.0 Beta 30 W7125NMS 1.0.30 Ultra 120604 16:46:08
7125V1030.zip
v01 Coolaler W7125NMS Coolaler-01 120904 17:53:50
7125V01COOLALER.zip
v1.0 Beta 31 W7125NMS V1.0B31 122304 17:56:47
7125V1031.zip
v1.00 Final W7125NMS V1.0 122404 10:13:51 7125V100.zip
v1 Beta XX W7125NMS V1.0BXX 011105 14:18:24 7125V1XX.zip
v1.10 Final W7125NMS V1.1 011205 11:28:28 7125V110.zip
v1.2 Beta 1 W7125NMS V1.2B1 011805 12:11:59 7125V121.zip
v1.2 Beta 4 W7125NMS V1.2B4 021805 13:59:42 7125V124.zip
v1.20 Final W7125NMS V1.2 022205 14:39:13 7125V120.zip
v1.30 Final W7125NMS V1.3 031105 15:45:45 7125V130.zip
v1.4 Beta 1 W7125NMS V1.4B1 032105 21:24:30 7125V141.zip
v1.4 Beta 4 W7125NMS V1.4B4 041205 14:25:36 7125V144.zip
v1.4 Final W7125NMS V1.4 051005 11:11:21 7125V140.zip
v1.4 MOD W7125NMS V1.4 051005 11:11:21 MOD 7125V140mod.zip
v1.5 Beta 2 W7125NMS V1.5B2 052005 15:18:27 7125V152.zip
v1.5 Final W7125NMS V1.5 060305 09:12:12 7125V150.zip
v1.6 Beta 1 W7125NMS V1.6B1 060605 16:59:30 7125V161.zip
v1.6 Beta 1 MOD W7125NMS V1.6B1 060605 16:59:30 MOD 7125V161mod.zip


Tools



A64 Tweaker 0.5X beta a64tweaker0.5Xtbeta.zip
Clockgen nForce 4 v1.02 CG-NVNF4.zip
CPU-Z 1.27 cpu-z-127.zip
WinFlash 1.76WinFlash176.zip
nVidia nTune 2.00.23 nTune at nvidia.com

Fixes


MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond/Platinum

OnBoard Sound EEPROM update
Quote:
Q: Why can't I install Creative driver?
A: Please update the EEPROM.
1) save the file in A:
2) under A:\> , type epci.exe /w:msi01.dat
3) wait for 30 sec. while the program is running. it will show result: passed
Download EEPROM update

Vmods


MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond/Platinum Vcore mod

The area is located a little bit above the socket, solder a 20K variable resistor between the spot on C655 resistor and ground (spot on C601 is just ground) like shown on the following pictures.
Max voltage for winchesters is 1,7v and for newcastles/clawhammers is 1,8v, more voltage trigger the ovp protection and the board will shut down.


(click on the pic to enlarge)


(click on the pics to enlarge)

black wire to ground

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Old 01-23-2005, 04:15 PM     #2
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onboard soudnblaster - msi k8n diamond

:\>epci.exe /w:MSI_01.DAT

Creative Eeprom PCI programming utility for MSI
Version 5.10.MSI
-----------------------------------------
Alice2 chip found !
Bus :0 Device: 0 Function :0
P17 not detected. Program abort

* * * Result: FAILED! * * *

what does this mean ?!


Why cant i get this working ??
 
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:12 PM     #3
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try again, or use extra soundcard like audigy or sth.
new bios:








but no vcore advantages ...
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Old 02-12-2005, 12:16 AM     #4
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added ms 7125 non sli
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Old 02-20-2005, 11:19 AM     #5
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v5.0 Beta 2 W7100NMS V5.0B2 021405 21:23:33
changes so far:
2.5 - 3,1v vdimm
new cpu voltage control.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:29 PM     #6
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Which bios can give voltages up to 1.8
 
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:01 PM     #7
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''v5.0 Beta 2 W7100NMS V5.0B2 021405 21:23:33
changes so far:
2.5 - 3,1v vdimm
new cpu voltage control.''
i install this bios and
i choose 1.450 and 12..v cpu voltaj:1.63
but in windows vcore is 1.55v
this bios not work
 
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:52 PM     #8
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I've got the MSI K8N nForce4 without SLI (BIOS version 1.1), and I can't seem to get the FSB over 219 no matter what I do... the temperatures are good too, and I've tried booting with 1,55V on CPU ...

It works fine on 219 but not on 220 or more. I've got some Crucial TWINX PC4000 3-4-4-8 RAM too...
But when I try to boot with FSB at 220, I just get a black screen, and I have to reset CMOS...

Since it isn't the temperatures (they are below 40 C), what am I doing wrong?

CPU is Winchester 3500+
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:25 PM     #9
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The Winchester is your issue here h017ah
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&page=23&pp=25


I just got a Diamond Board in a Box that says K8N Neo4 Platinum /SLI (601-7100-020), I'm in the USA.

MSI Taiwan has different BIOS on their site for each board and I can't find the Diamond on th US site. Is this the same board?

Thanks for your fine work //mAr
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:46 PM     #10
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Make Sure CPU Spread Spectrum is off before any FSB changes....also....try hit the reset button after a failed boot - most times works after that

Only managed 241 FSB though. Which BIOS is best for overclocking ? Running good watercooling and getting sub 40 degrees at full load with 1.7volts

Wierd though is the fact that I boot clean with 240 FSB, mem set to 150, HTT 5 or 4 no difference and the PC won't boot first time after being left cold for a while....

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Quote:
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Make Sure CPU Spread Spectrum is off before any FSB changes....also....try hit the reset button after a failed boot - most times works after that

Only managed 241 FSB though. Which BIOS is best for overclocking ? Running good watercooling and getting sub 40 degrees at full load with 1.7volts

Wierd though is the fact that I boot clean with 240 FSB, mem set to 150, HTT 5 or 4 no difference and the PC won't boot first time after being left cold for a while....

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You have a Winchester?
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Yep, D0 Week 52 Winnie, can handle up to 1,7volts with no shutdown. 3200+ @ 2gigs (duh ;P) the manufacturing code is the same as my buddies who runs @ 260FSB/1.45V aircooled....Power Supply is Enermax 600W SLI with 35Amp 12volt rail, ONE 6800 GT also watercooled so I doubt it's a power issue.

The Ram is Geil UltraX 3200, i've set it down to 3:4 ratio to take that out of the equation.I thought it's a BIOS/Motherboard issue, but i'm going to try some other RAM first to see what happens.

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Old 03-15-2005, 05:44 PM     #13
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v5.0 Beta 2 W7100NMS

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v5.0 Beta 2 W7100NMS V5.0B2 021405 21:23:33
changes so far:
2.5 - 3,1v vdimm
new cpu voltage control.
v5.0 Beta 2 W7100NMS V5.0B2 021405 21:23:33

Anyone tried this on a Diamond?
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:32 PM     #14
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I read the issue seems to be with the CBBID stepping Winchester and that CBBHD steppings work great. Do you know your stepping?
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?to...06.0;topicseen

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HT multiplier

Decrease HT multipliex down to 1x. MSI Neo4 Platinum BIOS sets this multiplier wrong so if you set it 1x it will be at about 3~3.5x. It will help You.
 
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:46 AM     #16
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5.04 beta bios

Can anyone get this bios? New one on the Diamond club forum. I cannot get above 1.53-1.55 vcore with any bios so far. Hoping this one will work. I have a Platinium SLI.
 
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I got the same problem.
I reach up to 2550 MHZ under
Tips: if you want to improve a little bit theFSB frequency, try to change the DDR slots 1&2 -> 3&4.
I get up to 229 MHz FSB but not higher... so bad

or if you are focused on your fsb frequency try to lower the multiplicator it will allow your to rise a little
 
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3&4 work better on your Diamond? What RAM? Thanks!
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on my Platinium (bios v1.2)... not Diamond.
RAM : 2 x CORSAIR XMS 3200 XL.

For your information, I read in a french forum, that someone who had exactly the same problem, changed his CPU (A64 3000 -> A64 3500) and his problem disapeared. that's very mysterious. Tomorrow, I'll come to the shop where I bought my mobo and my CPU and ask them for a piece of advice.
 
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I've found THE SOLUTION !!!!! YOUPI

The last thing I would have thought to be the limitant factor : THE HTT
YES it's the HTT. no doubt about it.
I put it to 1 and now I can reach 290MHz and probably higher. Indeed this time I was limited by my RAM.

I'm very happy. I hope it won't have too much impact on the performances.

Now I'm very tired and I'm going to bed !!! (half past zero in France)
Good luck in your overclocking. I'll come back in few days. Bye
 
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downloaded the latest beta bios for MSI K8N SLI NF4.

here's the only add on that fascinate me. Vdimm up from 2.85v default max to 3.1v.

however in CoreCell, i see memory voltage as 2.5v this i'm confused.

besides, i'm not getting memory tweak performance gain.

i've 2 pairs of ram.

1) 2x 512mb samsung tcb3 default @ DDR33.

before mod, able to push DDR 406 @ DDR400, 2.5,3,3,7 @ 2.85V
after mod, it won't run stable at that above speed.

2) 2x Twinmoss Speed premium UTT chips default @ DDR400

before mod & after same result, around DDR 460, 2.5, 3, 3, 7
but i notice system more stable at that speed, at least i could loop test memory for couple of hours.


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Uglyvamp, check this thread out:

http://www.rhcf.com/sisubb/ultimateb...ic/21/173.html

"Take note that when you flash the BIOS, you MUST reset CMOS and not just load optimized or failsafe defaults. I've found that the vcore adjustments don't work after a flash unless you clear CMOS. "
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oh !! no wonder ... i keep having the same feeling it isn't going anywhere ...

thanks for the link man ... trying it later

cheers..
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reflash & reset cmos.

vdimm still show 2.55v - 2.6v in windows

i've flash back to the earlier bios & o/c seems better.
 
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