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ATI 9500NP / 9800SE Hardmod
Before doing this Mod it's suggested that you verify that your card works perfectly stable with 8 Pipelines (use the softmod from here).
![]() On the 9500 Non-Pro and 9800SE the resistor is in position 1-2. On the 9800 Pro the resistor is in position 2-3. To enable eight pipelines make a connection between 2-3 (you can leave the resistor in place). After making the connection you have to flash an 8 pipeline BIOS with the same memory configuration as your card. The 9500NP should use a 9700NP Bios, the 9800SE a 9800NP or 9800 Pro BIOS. When the BIOS is flashed your card will be recognized as a full eight pipeline card by Windows - the softmod drivers are no longer required. If you have artifacts with the softmod, the hardmod will not fix them. Last edited by W1zzard; 08-06-2004 at 10:09 AM. |
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hi , scheint ja recht einfach zu sein.
hat jemand diesen mod schon gemacht ? |
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Post in the German forum DeX....
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Jah vielen haben diesen mod gemacht aber ich nicht...
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english only please, except in the german forums.
i did the mod .. works great |
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Im thinking about doing it.
Now what can i use to connect the points? I ran out of conductive stuff, and my dad put his solder gun somewhere....I tried numerous things........ |
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R360 core
Hi Wizzard.
I have a Sapphire 9800SE L-shaped ram (266bits) with the R360 core. I removed the heat sink and it is the 360. softmodded all right until I flashed it to an XT (why not , it's a 360 after all?). The oly driver able to go from 9800Se to XT I have found is the Omega driver, but they don't have the 4.9Beta 2 Questions: #1 Why your driver (V47 and V49) refuse to install (Unrecognized hardware error) ? The 9800XT is not supported yet ? #2 Is the hardmod the same for the 360 core ? Many thanks, Ramon |
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You cant mod a 9800SE to XT through drivers. That requires hardmodding and flashing to XT.....
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well actually i have never seen any performance increase from a pro to xt mod .. if you clock a real xt at pro speeds, performance is the same as a real pro ..
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Well the R360 has shader optimizations i think, so you DO score higher on benchmarks......
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got any numbers to back that?
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Look in the endless OCfaq archive...some people get a boost from about 5400 to 6500 in 3dmark 03. If i clock my card to XT, i get about 5900 now (i also get around 5400 stock) The small jump from 380/340 to 412/365 shouldnt boost you 1100 points....
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Hello, I'm new member here.
Last week I bought a brand new Sapphire Radeon 9500 nonpro 128MB 256Bit with L shape 3.3ns Infineon memory layout. I got my Sapphire R9500 softmodded successfully into R9700 and I OC-ed it into 325/300 core/memory with stock cooling. I consider to use Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer Rev.3 to replace the stock cooler. I got 7200 in 3DMark2001 SE. While I got 4700 in 3Dmark2003. My PC specs: Intel PIV 1.5GHz MSI MS-6534 i845 384MB PC133 SDRAM Seagate 7200.7 40GB LiteOn CDRW 52x32x52 400 Watt PSU Is that scores good enough? I wonder why my 3DMark 2001 SE is too low. Can anybody give me some explaination? Sorry for my English. Thanks. |
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Its a old version use the 3dMark2003 its the same dumb qeustion as why is my videocard slower with old divers :S
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Hardmod Resistor Question
I have an Xpertvision 9800SE that runs flawless with the softmod drivers.
I would like to do the hardmod by connecting pins 2-3.The thing that troubles me is that the resistor that used to be moved from 1-2 to 2-3 is around 5 Kohm.Won't I be damaging my card by just "shorting" 2-3.Is there any successful mods out there that used this method? |
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nope .. many people have done it successfully .. never heard of any problems
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Do you only need to make a connection between 2 and 3, and not cut any between 1 and 2 ?
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do i need to flash to pro bios after connecting the 2 pins?
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Hi gues i am a new ati owner ......( i had geforce 2 mx!).
I have softmoded my Club 3d 9800 se 256 bit to 9800 and now i want to hardmod it so here are the question...... Were do i find the PRO rom and the flashing program? Does anyone heared that something went wrong with club 3d card by hardmoding them? |
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bioses at http://bios.techpowerup.com
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I tryed to hardmod but i have a problem....my card has Etrontech 3.3 bios chip but there is no Etrontech bios for pro.I have tryed to flash with other manufacturers bios but it doesnt work.Now i have the original 9800 se bios again.
The question....What sould i do to upgrate to pro? |
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Nobody?Anything?
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your in the same boat as the Infineon users, nothing you can do but overclock it.
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After doing the mod card is not responding?
I did the mod on 9500 Non Pro L shaped memory card... Soft mod worked just fine before i tried hard mod. I unsoldered the resistor and moved to position 2-3. The computer doesnt started... Problem VGA says D-Bracket.. I unsoldered resistor again and put to position 1-2 card still dead. Is it possible that i damaged the GPU? Can the GPU be replaced if its damaged? Are the R300 and R350/R360 GPUs compatible? I dont think that there are available R300 GPUs anymore ...
Also when i was mounting the AMD cooler (replaced stock cooler with AMD one before tried this hard mod) on card Screw driver slipped away a little bit and hit the board, but i think it dont do any visible damage to the card... Any advices? |
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try with another gfx card and also try your 9800 to another pc.Good luke dude
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