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Old 07-25-2004, 03:10 PM     #1
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ATI 9500NP / 9800SE Hardmod

Before doing this Mod it's suggested that you verify that your card works perfectly stable with 8 Pipelines (use the softmod from here).



On the 9500 Non-Pro and 9800SE the resistor is in position 1-2.

On the 9800 Pro the resistor is in position 2-3.

To enable eight pipelines make a connection between 2-3 (you can leave the resistor in place).

After making the connection you have to flash an 8 pipeline BIOS with the same memory configuration as your card. The 9500NP should use a 9700NP Bios, the 9800SE a 9800NP or 9800 Pro BIOS.

When the BIOS is flashed your card will be recognized as a full eight pipeline card by Windows - the softmod drivers are no longer required.

If you have artifacts with the softmod, the hardmod will not fix them.

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Old 08-16-2004, 10:48 PM     #2
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hi , scheint ja recht einfach zu sein.
hat jemand diesen mod schon gemacht ?
 
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Old 08-16-2004, 10:54 PM     #3
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Post in the German forum DeX....
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:10 PM     #4
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Jah vielen haben diesen mod gemacht aber ich nicht...
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:33 PM     #5
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i did the mod .. works great
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:38 PM     #6
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Im thinking about doing it.

Now what can i use to connect the points? I ran out of conductive stuff, and my dad put his solder gun somewhere....

I tried numerous things........
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Old 08-17-2004, 05:13 PM     #7
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R360 core

Hi Wizzard.


I have a Sapphire 9800SE L-shaped ram (266bits) with the R360 core. I removed the heat sink and it is the 360. softmodded all right until I flashed it to an XT (why not , it's a 360 after all?). The oly driver able to go from 9800Se to XT I have found is the Omega driver, but they don't have the 4.9Beta

2 Questions:

#1 Why your driver (V47 and V49) refuse to install (Unrecognized hardware error) ? The 9800XT is not supported yet ?

#2 Is the hardmod the same for the 360 core ?


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Old 08-17-2004, 06:19 PM     #8
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You cant mod a 9800SE to XT through drivers. That requires hardmodding and flashing to XT.....
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:34 PM     #9
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well actually i have never seen any performance increase from a pro to xt mod .. if you clock a real xt at pro speeds, performance is the same as a real pro ..
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:35 PM     #10
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Well the R360 has shader optimizations i think, so you DO score higher on benchmarks......
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:45 PM     #11
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got any numbers to back that?
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:56 PM     #12
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Look in the endless OCfaq archive...some people get a boost from about 5400 to 6500 in 3dmark 03. If i clock my card to XT, i get about 5900 now (i also get around 5400 stock) The small jump from 380/340 to 412/365 shouldnt boost you 1100 points....
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Old 08-18-2004, 09:40 AM     #13
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Hello, I'm new member here.

Last week I bought a brand new Sapphire Radeon 9500 nonpro 128MB 256Bit with L shape 3.3ns Infineon memory layout.

I got my Sapphire R9500 softmodded successfully into R9700 and I OC-ed it into 325/300 core/memory with stock cooling.

I consider to use Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer Rev.3 to replace the stock cooler.

I got 7200 in 3DMark2001 SE.
While I got 4700 in 3Dmark2003.

My PC specs:
Intel PIV 1.5GHz
MSI MS-6534 i845
384MB PC133 SDRAM
Seagate 7200.7 40GB
LiteOn CDRW 52x32x52
400 Watt PSU

Is that scores good enough?

I wonder why my 3DMark 2001 SE is too low.
Can anybody give me some explaination?

Sorry for my English.

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Old 08-19-2004, 12:12 AM     #14
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Its a old version use the 3dMark2003 its the same dumb qeustion as why is my videocard slower with old divers :S
 
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Old 08-30-2004, 08:23 PM     #15
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Hardmod Resistor Question

I have an Xpertvision 9800SE that runs flawless with the softmod drivers.
I would like to do the hardmod by connecting pins 2-3.The thing that troubles me is that the resistor that used to be moved from 1-2 to 2-3 is around 5 Kohm.Won't I be damaging my card by just "shorting" 2-3.Is there any successful mods out there that used this method?
 
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Old 08-30-2004, 09:29 PM     #16
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nope .. many people have done it successfully .. never heard of any problems
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Do you only need to make a connection between 2 and 3, and not cut any between 1 and 2 ?
 
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:40 AM     #18
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do i need to flash to pro bios after connecting the 2 pins?
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Old 09-23-2004, 08:19 AM     #19
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Hi gues i am a new ati owner ......( i had geforce 2 mx!).
I have softmoded my Club 3d 9800 se 256 bit to 9800 and now i want to hardmod it
so here are the question......
Were do i find the PRO rom and the flashing program?
Does anyone heared that something went wrong with club 3d card by hardmoding them?
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Old 09-23-2004, 11:05 AM     #20
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bioses at http://bios.techpowerup.com
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Old 09-26-2004, 03:13 PM     #21
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I tryed to hardmod but i have a problem....my card has Etrontech 3.3 bios chip but there is no Etrontech bios for pro.I have tryed to flash with other manufacturers bios but it doesnt work.Now i have the original 9800 se bios again.

The question....What sould i do to upgrate to pro?
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Old 09-27-2004, 07:39 AM     #22
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Nobody?Anything?
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:54 AM     #23
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your in the same boat as the Infineon users, nothing you can do but overclock it.
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Old 09-29-2004, 01:02 AM     #24
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After doing the mod card is not responding?

I did the mod on 9500 Non Pro L shaped memory card... Soft mod worked just fine before i tried hard mod. I unsoldered the resistor and moved to position 2-3. The computer doesnt started... Problem VGA says D-Bracket.. I unsoldered resistor again and put to position 1-2 card still dead. Is it possible that i damaged the GPU? Can the GPU be replaced if its damaged? Are the R300 and R350/R360 GPUs compatible? I dont think that there are available R300 GPUs anymore ...

Also when i was mounting the AMD cooler (replaced stock cooler with AMD one before tried this hard mod) on card Screw driver slipped away a little bit and hit the board, but i think it dont do any visible damage to the card... Any advices?
 
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Old 09-30-2004, 09:14 AM     #25
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try with another gfx card and also try your 9800 to another pc.Good luke dude
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