ok first off, 65nm will come first to almost unaltered k8 cores, should be seeing them poping up anytime, then mid next year k8L will show up, the one advantage of the new 65nm chips will be higher clocks with lower temps/volts, this should be a very exciting time for amd users who already have am2, if not, well u got what you got.
i was just told by a buddy at intel test labs that they aquiered 2 65nm chips, he dosnt know where they got them(nobodys talking) but they are easly clocking to the max the boards can handel at 1.4v, he said one of them is running at 355x12 (chipset/board can do more then 355 stable) thats 4260 at 1.4v they didnt try lower volts from what he said, hes gonna try and test it come more himself over the weekend(he can work some overtime and play with some of the new toys without alot of other people getting in the way...)
oh and temps where maxed at 35c with stock cooling from a sempy64(a chip they fryed by giving it 2.7volts ROFL) thats crazy, little cooler+slow fan+high overclock=low temp........
im trying to get him to take me with him this weekend, i just wana see these chips, play with them, see if im gonna be forced to buy one when they come out