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Old 05-14-2007, 04:46 PM     #51
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I need to get one in June....not gonna wait. 8800 gts it is.
that.. doesnt actually make sense if you read it, your not gonna wait for the next ati product, while the xt is available, so your going for a gts which the xt can beat?
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Old 05-14-2007, 04:52 PM     #52
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that.. doesnt actually make sense if you read it, your not gonna wait for the next ati product, while the xt is available, so your going for a gts which the xt can beat?

I thought the GTS beat the XT in most of those tests?
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Every damn review is diffrent! I cant take it anymore. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2260
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Old 05-14-2007, 04:57 PM     #54
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the x2900xt overclocked beats the gts in every game.
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Old 05-14-2007, 04:58 PM     #55
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the x2900xt overclocked beats the gts in every game.
and all the 8800 benchies were done with a pre overclocked card also
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I need to get one in June....not gonna wait. 8800 gts it is.

dont be silly the x2900 with driver updates and overclocked will be way faster.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2260
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:01 PM     #57
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dont be silly the x2900 with driver updates and overclocked will be way faster.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=2260
its like peeps buying intel chips over amd coz once overclocked they go faster...

if you slap watercooling on an hd2900xt its gonna fly

Put it this way, i have an 1900xtx and would never even think of using it without being overclocked, the difference is just to large to ignore
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I guess I will just have to get another GTS
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:04 PM     #59
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also look at the pricing, its quite shocking really, an 8800 ultra beats the xt (but very few of them) at an insane price tag, while you could have 2 hd2900xt's in crossfire for less and dance around all smug
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everyone knows that the 8800 ultra is a joke... no one is going to buy that thing.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:08 PM     #61
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everyone knows that the 8800 ultra is a joke... no one is going to buy that thing.
well yeah, guess your right there, dunno what Nvidia was thinking with that price...
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:11 PM     #62
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Just wait till drivers are updated. 1000% sure the 8800gts is no match for this card.
the x2900xt beats the 8800gts in every game in some reviews.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:13 PM     #63
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Well thats dx9, I wanna see unbiased dx10 game benchies, where neither ati or nvidia has had their fingers in em. A fair, unoptomized Dx10 showdown

Also think sum1 mentioned that ATI are workin on their next 2 core designs, so hopefully, coupled with the Phenom cpu's, things are looking up for ATI/AMD, for once
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:22 PM     #64
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So how long will it take for these updated ati drivers? Gah!
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:25 PM     #65
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Well thats dx9, I wanna see unbiased dx10 game benchies, where neither ati or nvidia has had their fingers in em. A fair, unoptomized Dx10 showdown

Also think sum1 mentioned that ATI are workin on their next 2 core designs, so hopefully, coupled with the Phenom cpu's, things are looking up for ATI/AMD, for once
Yeah.... as long as they dont go broke in the meantime and have to go bankrupt.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:28 PM     #66
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x1800 all over again, sorry worse.
can someone explain what happened to x1800, i wasn't reading news back then
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:32 PM     #67
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we waited like 4ever for it, when it came out yes it was faster than nvidia but only for 2 weeks till the 7900 came out, then 3 weeks later the x1900 came out, wich made the x1800 worthless.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:33 PM     #68
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x1800 = rushed out for performance king, then quickly beaten by 7900...
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Why wasn't the overclocking tool able to be mentioned?

What was used?
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Well thats dx9, I wanna see unbiased dx10 game benchies, where neither ati or nvidia has had their fingers in em. A fair, unoptomized Dx10 showdown
From what info I've read, ATI built this card with a tradeoff for high DX10 and mediocre DX9 performance... relatively speaking. Too bad the software just hasn't been built yet to prove that one way or other

It's still going to take a while for game programmers to really understand what DX10 SDK can do, not to mention optimization.
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Hell...... all in all, EVERYONE wins.

It doesnt matter if you are an Nvidia fan or an ATI fan.

We all win, weather its lower prices, performace or any other reasons.

Bottom line everyone wins
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:00 PM     #72
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For the first time ever I'm disappointed with ATi...

We waited ages for this to come out, and when it does? It's nothing special... I can cheer myself up by saying it's AMD's fault though

I think I'm just gonna buy an XBOX 360 and be happy with that...
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For the first time ever I'm disappointed with ATi...

We waited ages for this to come out, and when it does? It's nothing special... I can cheer myself up by saying it's AMD's fault though

I think I'm just gonna buy an XBOX 360 and be happy with that...
you say that b4 its even been properly benchied on dx10 software, it "will" be special when you throw dx10 at it (toes crossed )
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I just hope for the sake of the ATI fans that it runs like you expect
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So how long will it take for these updated ati drivers? Gah!
Knowing ATi, either a few days, or maybe another week or two, depends on user feedback, and how quickly their programmers can type. They'll want to up performance as quickly as possible.

Either way, taking an average of all of the reviews I read on the 2900, it's still got decent performance, especially for the price tag (£270 for a card that came out TODAY officially, and on OcUK too... not bad if I say so myself), just wish that my PSU could handle it (430W, only one 6-pin PCIe connector), as if it could, then I'd know that it could easily handle the lower-priced model 2900s, in case a hammer ever happens to come into contact with my card
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