Bigfoot Networks KillerNIC M1

[tater]

lol ya...if your willing to spend $250 for 15 fps and be happy...then buy a 8800gts (or upgrade to a gtx) and itll blow your mind

[segomo]

I upgraded my graphics card from a 9800XT to a 6800GS, in WOW this made a an improvement instantly when walking around large areas. But there was no change in performance when entering a city or taking part in a large raid. So I upgraded my cpu from a Althon xp to a dual core x2 and this again made improvents to the fps over all but still the lag was apparent in raids and citys. So by chance i came across the killernic card, it was marked down a little at a show, it said it could help so i got it. Now no lag AT ALL in raids or city's, even using HS is almost instant now

if you play wow and raid alot then i recommend it! but it is quite expensive if your not that serious about it.

[bassmasta]

dont get the m1, get the k1. the m1 is a 400 mhz core, the k1 is 333. in theory you could flash on a bios to cover the $100 dollar difference, if you could find a heatsink that fits it. it just so happens i found one and did that.

[HellasVagabond]

Still the k1 costs 130pounds.....200euros...It aint a small amount of money.

[bassmasta]

yeah, that's true, but if you buy one used you can get it for half that price. if you want to upgrade your cpu, you need to buy a whole new one. if you get this, it's like getting a piece of one. while it may be far too expensive, it is a good card. like an 8800 ultra. i'm not buying one, but i won't argue that they kick ass, for an overclocked gtx.

[cdawall]

i agree with the ppl that say it needs to be PCI-e and not PCI but this gives them an unlimited market cause there is NO current PC that does not have PCI and IMO if you dont have the cash to upgrade or are at the top of your platform $250 is a pretty cheap way to get 15fps vs a $1K or so on a complete overhaul plus it comes with a pretty good game bundle.

[HellasVagabond]

You only get 15FPS in Online games such as WOW and not in everyday single player games. And you can buy a lot of things with 250-300$ to get you that extra 15fps in General and not only in online games.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

You only get 15FPS in Online games such as WOW and not in everyday single player games. And you can buy a lot of things with 250-300$ to get you that extra 15fps in General and not only in online games.

look at my rig and tell me what i can get for $200-300 w/o a complete rebuild....

[HellasVagabond]

XFX 7950GT (240$)

or

AMD ATHLON 3700+ ( used )
+
2GB DDR500
( Both wont cost above 200$ )

or

XFX 7950GT
+
AMD Athlon 3700+(used)
( Shouldnt cost more than 300$ )


And in all three cases not only it will cost less since you can also sell your old hardware but you will also get far more FPS and in every game not just online ones

[tigger]

i agree with hellasVagabond

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

XFX 7950GT (240$)

or

AMD ATHLON 3700+ ( used )
+
2GB DDR500
( Both wont cost above 200$ )

or

XFX 7950GT
+
AMD Athlon 3700+(used)
( Shouldnt cost more than 300$ )


And in all three cases not only it will cost less since you can also sell your old hardware but you will also get far more FPS and in every game not just online ones

my 7800gs unlocks to 7900GTX no point to get the 7950 that runs almost the same as for the 3700 my 3400 will run just as fast and the ram you got me there not going to be able to top 2X1gb though my sticks run DDR550 just fine

[HellasVagabond]

1st of all....7800GS unlocks to an 7900GTX ????? Clocks dont mean a thing cdawall......
2nd your rig says its an AMD Athlon 3000+ and not an 3400+. That you have OCed to 3400+ clocks means nothing since you could also OC the 3700+.
3rd Your mainboard supports 2x1GB sticks so why not ????

[bassmasta]

you know, the killer nic driver dies out at the same instability as ten hours of memtest, or five hours of orthos cpu stress. saves time.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

1st of all....7800GS unlocks to an 7900GTX ????? Clocks dont mean a thing cdawall......
2nd your rig says its an AMD Athlon 3000+ and not an 3400+. That you have OCed to 3400+ clocks means nothing since you could also OC the 3700+.
3rd Your mainboard supports 2x1GB sticks so why not ????

my 7800gs is a G71-A2 core the very same one that is in the 7900GTX i have been working on doing the unlock and am very close to doing so after that is done a 1.5v vmod is a conductive pen away which will give a 700mhz core clock 45mhz over the stock 7900GTX

the 3400+ will clock just as well as any 3700 for s754

3700+ WR
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=16530
3400+ WR
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=12416

3000+ WR
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4638/32765gm.gif

if i was going for a s754 cpu i would get htis
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=100828

with the ram no cash=no new ram and im looking at getting a DFI nf3 250gb mobo from DR.DNA which should allow for better performance that a extra 1gb of ram will anyway

though i could have a 2X1gb by xmas depends on if i talk my dad into upgrading his pentium D 930 system to DDR2 mobo with pci-e and dump his 865 chipset board that he has now

[HellasVagabond]

7800 GS 256MB
Vertex Pipes 6
Pixel Pipes 16
ROP Pipes 8
Core Clock 400
Memory Clock 1.25


7950 GT 256MB ( 512MB at 265$ )
Vertex Pipes 8
Pixel Pipes 24
ROP Pipes 16
Core Clock 550
Memory Clock 1.4

So you can see that the PIPES of the second are far more than the first. Also the Ram is Double in the second 25$ more version. These two are what counts and not the clocks. Thats the reason why the 8800GTX overtakes my OCed 8800GTS ( even by a bit ) at stock speeds and if OCed the 8800GTX is far faster. So in a few words your 7800GS has no chance in the world to match the 7950GT even with Vmod especially since these 2 are worlds apart when it comes to pipes.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

7800 GS 256MB
Vertex Pipes 6
Pixel Pipes 16
ROP Pipes 8
Core Clock 400
Memory Clock 1.25


7950 GT 256MB ( 512MB at 265$ )
Vertex Pipes 8
Pixel Pipes 24
ROP Pipes 16
Core Clock 550
Memory Clock 1.4

So you can see that the PIPES of the second are far more than the first. Also the Ram is Double in the second 25$ more version. These two are what counts and not the clocks. Thats the reason why the 8800GTX overtakes my 8800GTS ( even by a bit ) at stock speeds and if OCed the 8800GTX is far faster. So in a few words your 7800GS has no chance in the world to match the 7950GT even with Vmod.

lol you misread my post my card has a G71-A2 core meaning that if i can find the correct bios i can unlock 8pipes/2ROPS giving me the same 24/8 on the 7900GTX and i have checked the bios on the 7900GTX the ram may be clocked higher but the timings are looser


oh and if you can get a 7950gt or 7900gtx to use 512mb of ram more power to you but most even in games still only use ~200mb @1280X1024 which is my monitors max res

[HellasVagabond]

You still see some difference between 256 and 512....As for the BIOS i wouldnt count that you can unlock it...I have yet to see an 7800GS flashed and working as an 7950GT. One attempt i saw online succeded but still in benchmarks nothing changed. From what i remember the extra pipes just werent there.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

You still see some difference between 256 and 512....As for the BIOS i wouldnt count that you can unlock it...I have yet to see an 7800GS flashed and working as an 7950GT. One attempt i saw online succeded but still in benchmarks nothing changed. From what i remember the extra pipes just werent there.

that was with rivatuner and it didnt actually do anything the card has the pipes and they are bios locked thus with a modded bios you can unlock the 7800gs to a 7900GTX


the cards were the pipes just were not there were the 7800GS G70 cards and those you could do nothing with them to et them unlocked cause they were lazer cut i believe

[HellasVagabond]

I doubt Nvidia would make a mistake like that however you are free to try and afterwards post your results

[Kursah]

Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

You still see some difference between 256 and 512....As for the BIOS i wouldnt count that you can unlock it...I have yet to see an 7800GS flashed and working as an 7950GT. One attempt i saw online succeded but still in benchmarks nothing changed. From what i remember the extra pipes just werent there.

I think the difference between 256 and 512 would only really be noticable at higher resolutions, granted the 512 card would have an easier time with higher texture filtering, aa, and such, I don't think the difference at the resolution CDAwall runs would net a very noticable difference. But if it's only a $25 shot for the 512 card over the 256, then it wouldn't hurt, especially if planning on going with a higher res monitor. Granted, it depends on how the rest of the system could cope too and what that card would be capable of in higher resolutions with the current build, and it's own rated performance for current games. I've seen a lot of benches and tested some systems, and I just didn't see a big enough difference if any at resolutions below 16x12 to really justify the extra cost, but it depends on a user's needs, wants and requirements.

I also gotta agree with ya on the 7800GS mods, I've seen some mad OC's, but with a verified SN of pipes unlocked, it seemed they just weren't there. The benchies didn't show much for a difference.

CD, keep us posted, I noticed a very noticable difference in performance when I modded my x850pro from 12pipes to 16 pipes..if you are successful, you will know it!

[GSG-9]

Good job with the extensive review, I will not be buying the nic as I dont have the budgit for it but its interesting to read about (Same with the ageia cards)

[r4st4m4n]

Originally Posted by segomo

I've had one of the KillerNIC M1 network cards for a couple of months now, and it had made a big difference to the games that I play.

The most noticable is WOW. The FPS and PING have stablaised at 48fps and a ping time of around 88 constant, even in cities like SW and IF! before the KillerNIC they would the both fps and ping would have been doubled and even more in IF AH.

Others include:
Vanguard is now actually playable!
LOTRO now has no lag noticable, before if I got anywhere near a player it would jerk around!
GW saw a marked FPS increase.

I'ts amazing what a network card can do! I highly recommend one!

My system:

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-5400C4 TwinX (2x1GB)
Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA (Socket AM2) AGP DDR2 Motherboard
NVIDA GeForce 6800 GS 512MB (450/1200) (old but a real contender!)
KillerNIC M1 400Mhz Network Card
8mb ADSL connection (running at about 6mb )

Hey segomo,

I find very strange you register on lot of forums only to copy/paste your post saying the killer NIC is awesome. Particularly when you seem to be the only one to praise its qualities

1) http://forums.xsreviews.co.uk/showpo...56&postcount=6
2) http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/22458-42-killer

Looks like some kind of "intelligent" SPAM to me ... If you were employed by BigFoot, it wouldn't surprise me much

[HellasVagabond]

Well i am not surprised at all....

[r4st4m4n]

Just noticed another thing. The website is mentioning (or should I say promoting) is only selling the Killer NIC and 2 other products, that's all !

What a HUGE coincidence, isn't it

[tigger]

the only product that company is selling is the killer nic,seems risky.if it flops the company is shot.