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They have shrunk it by more than half and removed the speed control! That is just insane, I bet this thing cools like complete ass!:banghead:

 
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Eww, i bet its loud too
 

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it looks like it uses the same fan, which is known even at 100% power to be pretty silent still.

Well with core 2 duo's running damn cool even on stock coolers, i guess shrinking the heatsink wont make much difference.
 

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It uses a different fan, so I don't know what RPM it runs at yet. The design is similar, but when you look at them side by side they are definitely different. I am going to guess this fan runs a lot faster, and with no speed control it is probably going to be decently loud.
 

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hmm. ya that is quite a difference. what cpu did you buy that came with that cooler. cuz i recently just bought a C2D and it came with the normal one and im idling @ 17 :)
 
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that does look pretty shite - wonder if prices will be lowered seing as it uses less materials, doubt it though
 
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They have shrunk it by more than half and removed the speed control! That is just insane, I bet this thing cools like complete ass!:banghead:

Exactly what version CPU did that come with?
 

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we just got 2 of those here at work, with our celeron 440's. Works just fine with the single cores, they are pretty tiny compared to the older one...it wasn't that loud either...
 

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Yeah, Celeron 440 was what it came with.
 

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I hope to god that is only for the celerons, maybe even stretch it into the dual-core celeron/pentium range, but any Core 2 Duo would be hotter than prescotts with that thing... and the quads... just no...
 

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The original stock coolers weren't designed for "our use" either. The cooling is technically sufficient, but thing about it. They could have easily just kept using the old Celeron heatsink and systems would have run much quieter, which a lot of corporate customers require.
 

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in my eyes ever cooler made by intel after socket7 is a joke plastic clips and just cheaply built i allways get a laph thow lol

mind u with some temp bypass an chip over ride ther fans can hit 6000rpm+


like the s478 slug dising i wana slug the guy who drew that up lol so many have broke
 
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For celeron 440s... i wouldnt be bitching if i were you :p. Seriously, its sufficient and the small cooler makes it great in cramped situations.
 

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dont compare celerons with core2duos fan cannot be reduced on the higher end series
 
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It's smileyworthy indeed, first people complain that TDP's go up every generation and coolers become insanely big. Now they lower the TDP and shrink the coolers with it and people complain again. Make up your mind.
 

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in my eyes ever cooler made by intel after socket7 is a joke plastic clips and just cheaply built i allways get a laph thow lol

The c2d-cooler is good..

Also, Celerons are rather cool and if they're not overclocked it's not a problem. My parents have that cooler, and it's pretty good. It's not *silent* as in SILENT but it's not very loud either.
 

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Honestly this has been blown way out of proportion.

The Core 2 Duo series still comes with the regular full height CPU heatsink.
ONLY THE CELERON 400 series use these low profile stock heatsinks.

Personally I even HAVE a Celeron 420 and it came with the low profile heatsink.... it is in a SFF case with 5 hard drives, the temperature of said CPU remains so low that the fan does NOT spin up under normal conditions, instead it remains either powered off because the CPU does not generate enough heat or it will spin up for 1 second and power off for 5 seconds, because the motherboard senses the CPU is not hot enough for it to be sending enough voltage to the fan to keep it running (either way, there is absolutely no discernible noise coming from the fan).
Only when I max the CPU to 100% does the fan begin the remain at a constant RPM, and even then it is so low there is barely ANY noise generated, and the CPU temp touches 40C.


The Core 2 Duo series still come with the regular series heatsink, as do the Pentium Dual-Core series as far as I know. I work at a retailer (Memory Express) and sell roughly 7-14 Intel processors per day.
 

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it is in a SFF case with 5 hard drives, the temperature of said CPU remains so low that the fan does NOT spin up under normal conditions, instead it remains either powered off because the CPU does not generate enough heat or it will spin up for 1 second and power off for 5 seconds,

Hmm.. Really? Then I think I have to take a look at my parents fan, because that's always spinning at pretty much full speed..
 
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Look, the Celeron 420s have less cache as well as only having ONE single core. Meaning that the heat output is literally half. What threeflow says can be considered as factual - cut the sarcasm please.

Curt, the Core 2 Duo Coolers are great, what are you on about? If you haven't used it, don't make assumptions unless you have a substantial base for it.
 

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Well I don't know about your guys, but I don't consider 70C after four and a half minutes of load to be acceptable, especially when the machine is more than likely going to be under 100% load 24/7(folding). I don't know what it would have actually gotten to if I let it go, and I don't want to know, I stopped at 70C. Plus that was with the side panel off, it would have only gotten hotter quicker with the side panel on...:shadedshu

Honestly this has been blown way out of proportion.

The Core 2 Duo series still comes with the regular full height CPU heatsink.
ONLY THE CELERON 400 series use these low profile stock heatsinks.

Personally I even HAVE a Celeron 420 and it came with the low profile heatsink.... it is in a SFF case with 5 hard drives, the temperature of said CPU remains so low that the fan does NOT spin up under normal conditions, instead it remains either powered off because the CPU does not generate enough heat or it will spin up for 1 second and power off for 5 seconds, because the motherboard senses the CPU is not hot enough for it to be sending enough voltage to the fan to keep it running (either way, there is absolutely no discernible noise coming from the fan).
Only when I max the CPU to 100% does the fan begin the remain at a constant RPM, and even then it is so low there is barely ANY noise generated, and the CPU temp touches 40C.


The Core 2 Duo series still come with the regular series heatsink, as do the Pentium Dual-Core series as far as I know. I work at a retailer (Memory Express) and sell roughly 7-14 Intel processors per day.

Really, I don't see how that is possible considering the fan on the new heatsink isn't speed controlled like the other Intel fans. It runs at one speed and one speed only.:banghead:

Yes, the higher end processors still come with the regular heatsink, I never said they didn't. Though the cheap aluminum ones they send with the E4000 and E2000 series are also crap, IMO, but that isn't what this thread is about.

Look, the Celeron 420s have less cache as well as only having ONE single core. Meaning that the heat output is literally half. What threeflow says can be considered as factual - cut the sarcasm please.

Curt, the Core 2 Duo Coolers are great, what are you on about? If you haven't used it, don't make assumptions unless you have a substantial base for it.

No, it can't be considered factual, and stop trying to boss people around. The fan on the 400 series heatsink doesn't have any form of speed control, it is missing the 4th wire used to control the fans speed, and it runs at a constant RPM. The only way what he said could be true is if the motherboard is designed to lower the fan speed using just three pins. The problem is that I have NEVER seen a socket 775 motherboard that was capable of this. They all use the 4th pin to do it because that is what it is designed to do. I'm not saying it isn't possible, just unlikely, and if it does happen, it isn't a motherboard thing which has nothing to do with the heatsink.
 
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No need for the personal comments... Anyway- HOLY F*** 70*C? Intel better do something about this :shadedshu

Does it even use a copper slug?
 
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Why they do that?
 

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No need for the personal comments... Anyway- HOLY F*** 70*C? Intel better do something about this :shadedshu

Does it even use a copper slug?

Nope, no copper at all, it is all aluminum.
 
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