Well I don't know about your guys, but I don't consider 70C after four and a half minutes of load to be acceptable, especially when the machine is more than likely going to be under 100% load 24/7(folding). I don't know what it would have actually gotten to if I let it go, and I don't want to know, I stopped at 70C. Plus that was with the side panel off, it would have only gotten hotter quicker with the side panel on...:shadedshu
Honestly this has been blown way out of proportion.
The Core 2 Duo series still comes with the regular full height CPU heatsink.
ONLY THE CELERON 400 series use these low profile stock heatsinks.
Personally I even HAVE a Celeron 420 and it came with the low profile heatsink.... it is in a SFF case with 5 hard drives, the temperature of said CPU remains so low that the fan does NOT spin up under normal conditions, instead it remains either powered off because the CPU does not generate enough heat or it will spin up for 1 second and power off for 5 seconds, because the motherboard senses the CPU is not hot enough for it to be sending enough voltage to the fan to keep it running (either way, there is absolutely no discernible noise coming from the fan).
Only when I max the CPU to 100% does the fan begin the remain at a constant RPM, and even then it is so low there is barely ANY noise generated, and the CPU temp touches 40C.
The Core 2 Duo series still come with the regular series heatsink, as do the Pentium Dual-Core series as far as I know. I work at a retailer (Memory Express) and sell roughly 7-14 Intel processors per day.
Really, I don't see how that is possible considering the fan on the new heatsink isn't speed controlled like the other Intel fans. It runs at one speed and one speed only.
Yes, the higher end processors still come with the regular heatsink, I never said they didn't. Though the cheap aluminum ones they send with the E4000 and E2000 series are also crap, IMO, but that isn't what this thread is about.
Look, the Celeron 420s have less cache as well as only having ONE single core. Meaning that the heat output is literally half. What threeflow says can be considered as factual - cut the sarcasm please.
Curt, the Core 2 Duo Coolers are great, what are you on about? If you haven't used it, don't make assumptions unless you have a substantial base for it.
No, it can't be considered factual, and stop trying to boss people around. The fan on the 400 series heatsink doesn't have any form of speed control, it is missing the 4th wire used to control the fans speed, and it runs at a constant RPM. The only way what he said could be true is if the motherboard is designed to lower the fan speed using just three pins. The problem is that I have NEVER seen a socket 775 motherboard that was capable of this. They all use the 4th pin to do it because that is what it is designed to do. I'm not saying it isn't possible, just unlikely, and if it does happen, it isn't a motherboard thing which has nothing to do with the heatsink.