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I really don't care as long as the manufacturers have good warranty periods on the cards, a good case with plenty of fans moving air in and out would be significantly better and lower internal temp than most OEM builds.

I've seen many crack their 8800GT's up to around 740 on the core with full stability using stock cooling, that's still a bit of headroom.
 
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I posted a link about that problem here. People are complaining on the evga forum...
 
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Nvidia shot themselves in the foot no more thern AMD did when they bought ATI. And I think the down fall of AMD will be ATI.

for ATi to comeback they need to put out 2 generations of killers.
 
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notice 8800gt's are nonexistent.
 
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Conspiracy from the InQ, whoda thunk it?

this is why teh 8800GT is so spectacular, but Nvidia may have jsut shot itelf in the foot.

The thing is, no matter what they were in trouble with such a card, unless they can bring out a worthy replacement of the high end cards.
Holding back mid-range sales to protect the tiny niche GTX/Ultra sales makes little sense, and protecting the more expensive to make GTS instead of the GT also doesn't make much sense (although higher pricing of the GT may have made it more easily apparent that the right strategy would be simply to drop the GTS all together).
Now potentially leaving sales on the table and leaving an opening for HD38xx sales to come from customers saying "Well I was going to buy a GF8800GT for Crysis, but there aren't any and I need someting now, guess I'll buy an HD38xx instead" doesn't make much sense. It may be a wicked card and really good pricing/clocking, but if you can't get sufficient numbers out to market at that combo, they're leaving alot of money on the table, or in price gouging resellers hands ($300 GTs doesn't benefit nVidia it benifits AIB partners [if they can up their delivery price] and e-tailers like NewEgg, etc).
Either way this doesn't look like a good strategy if it's manufactured to protect the GTX/Ultra, whose sales were likely very flat before the GT arrived.

Worth of 'Conspiracy' don't think so, but still very strange and somewhat disturbing if even partly true.
 
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i gues they were trying to spoil the intro, but no matter, TAI better see this and mek the machine them groan, and have 3870's and 3850's aplenty!
 

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Nvidia shot themselves in the foot no more thern AMD did when they bought ATI. And I think the down fall of AMD will be ATI.

The profitable segment of ATi is hurting AMD? How so? Care to explain?

If anything the unprofitable CPU segment of AMD is hurting AMD/ATi.
I don't think ATi would've been much different alone than it is under AMD, but I also don't doubt that AMD isn't spending all it's R&D money on getting ATi back into the lead, nor did they pull all the stops in getting an R600 refresh out the way ATi did with the R580 after the R520 hold-ups.

If anything AMD will be the downfall of ATi, as I don't think AMD has added anything to ATi that they couldn't have done on their own, and I don't think anyone doubts that under intel it would've been different if only slightly, plus better relations in the MoBo market where AMD still ends up pushing alot more nV than their own it seems.
Not that miraculously the R600 would've beaten the G80, but their actions and reactions likely would've been better, especially with a company flush with funds rather than searching for money just to make it to the next quarter.

Your criticism of ATi witin AMD would hold more weight if it wasn't a plus on the balance sheet compared to AMD's CPU operations.
 
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it all looks good for ati.. their nvidia killer will be two cool running 3870 chips on the same board.. an 3870xt x2.. its all down to heat.. two gpus on one board.. two boards means four gpus..

if nvidia chips fry and ati ones dont they will end up the winner..

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it all looks good for ati.. their nvidia killer will be two cool running 3870 chips on the same board.. an 3870xt x2.. its all down to heat.. two gpus on one board.. two boards means four gpus..

if nvidia chips fry and ati ones dont they will end up the winner..

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As long as the drivers go properly for such a card.
Good example would be nVidia's 7950 GX2.
Issues with some games.

They hey day for ATi was the X8xx series, I think AMD was doing a good job then too but now. . .

I'll still stick with AMD/ATi anyway, they've done me well.
 

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so: "we are gonna sell a cheaper, faster card, that provides significantly better bang-per-buck than any of our other cards, including the fastest ones in the range"

later: "oh-oh, the new card is selling better than any of the other cards! quick, lets hold back stock so that people will HAVE to buy the slower, more expensive GTS's etc!"

:confused: a blooming monkey could run a business better. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

i just feel sorry for the independant shops that have stocked on the GTS's.
 

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NVIDIA and AMD are throwing dirt on each other, just in time for Christmas :laugh:.
 

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So how do you prevent people from buying two 8800GTs and SLIing them, beating an Ultra and pocketing the difference themselves? What about three GTs in one of the newer boards?

I thought the G92 couldn't do Tri-sli?
 
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