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HD3870 vs 8800GT Benchmarks @ Legion Hardware - FAKE?

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http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=703&p=0

Update: Review was faked.

Update: The thread @ xtremesystems was deleted for unknown reasons. Here is the information it contained.


TechSpot and LegionHardware's two reviews listed below are written by the exact same author. That by itself is not a problem. However, the following things also happened:

1. The author swapped the 8800GTS and 2900XT results. The author swapped 8800GT and 8800GTX results in certain cases. All "mistakes" are in NVIDIA's favor.
2. The OS is different across the review websites (Vista vs WindowsXP).

There is obvious bias going on. We need to get the word out!
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http://www.techspot.com/review/74-inno3d-geforce8800gt/page3.html

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=703&p=1

Does anyone notice some similarities in the numbers between the two?


Obviously there's something shady going on. Consider the 2900XT and 8800GTS scores. They are SWITCHED in the Techspot review such that the 8800GTS performs better than the 2900XT. So which one is right? Usually the 2900XT performs better than the 8800GTS in U3 engine games, so I would suspect that the 2900XT is the higher one for this game.

Look at the other graphs too. This isn't the only page with similarities.

Bioshock:
Problem: 8800GT and 2900XT results are swapped, in NVIDIA's favor. OS is incorrect.




World in Conflict:
Problem: 8800GT and 8800GTX results are swapped, in 8800GT's favor. OS is incorrect.



Supreme Commander:
Problem: 2900XT and 8800GTS results are swapped, in NVIDIA's favor. Settings are incorrect (2xAA vs 0xAA). OS is incorrect.





Everyone, please spread the word!

Credit - Shadowmage
 
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if this is the way the cards are going to be then i know i don't want the HD 3870. ATI needs to step up their game.
 

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WTF the newest card is on the oldest driver

- Gigabyte Radeon HD 2900XT (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.10
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.9
 
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WTF the newest card is on the oldest driver

- Gigabyte Radeon HD 2900XT (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.10
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.9

7.9's????
 
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This is why the 3870 is cheaper than the 8800gt. Come on, we are still getting an awesome card for cheap!
 

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WTF the newest card is on the oldest driver

- Gigabyte Radeon HD 2900XT (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.10
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.9

Yeah, and I like the selected resolution for the test also.:toast:
 
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7900GS for sale now.
 

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Benchmark Scores nah
what did you expect from a site full of 8800gt ads??????
 
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why idnt they use other resolutions?
 

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I believe that Nvidia boosted the clocks according to the inquirer to gain a advantage over the new cards, pushed them to their limit.
 
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im still getting it, im selling my 7900GS now. in negotiations as we speak.

itd look good beside my AB9Pro.
 
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I believe that Nvidia boosted the clocks according to the inquirer to gain a advantage over the new cards, pushed them to their limit.


and massercared their own product line.
 

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WTF the newest card is on the oldest driver

- Gigabyte Radeon HD 2900XT (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.10
- ASUS Radeon HD 3870 (512MB) ATI Catalyst 7.9

Yes, very true.

if this is the way the cards are going to be then i know i don't want the HD 3870. ATI needs to step up their game.

This is a somewhat flawed review... the ATI cards where all not running the same driver version as Damulta pointed out.
 
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What the hell is wrong with these review sites using outdated drivers? What about performane overclocked? I'm really getting sick of Nvidia.... Again...
 

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It could have been tipped in Nvidia's favor, but there really is no way of knowing. I also suspect the newest drivers wouldnt have been enough to make up for the poor showing (supposedly). I guess we will have to wait until they are released and W1z can do some good reviews on it. Personally, at the price point offered, this is my next card.
 
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They are selling 300$ Video Cards like hotcakes now aren't they? I would hardly call that a massacre...

and 700 dollar cards are selling like cold cakes because of said hotcakes ....
 
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Yes the drivers were old. So with new drivers the 3870 gains what 3%-5% performance boost?

Unless this card with the 55nm die can OC like a mofo (1Ghz+), Im going 8800gt, or waiting for the 8800GTS rev2. Lets not forget that the 8800GT with a new cooler or water cooling can OC very well.

I feel almost let down by ATI right now...Telling all my friends, ohhh just wait for the 38xx it will be awesome...:banghead:

My x1900xtx is doing good and oc's great and I love it. But ATI has completely crashed since then, ok the x1950 is good too.
 

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Yes the drivers were old. So with new drivers the 3870 gains what 3%-5% performance boost?

Unless this card with the 55nm die can OC like a mofo (1Ghz+), Im going 8800gt, or waiting for the 8800GTS rev2. Lets not forget that the 8800GT with a new cooler or water cooling can OC very well.

I feel almost let down by ATI right now...Telling all my friends, ohhh just wait for the 38xx it will be awesome...:banghead:

My x1900xtx is doing good and oc's great and I love it. But ATI has completely crashed since then, ok the x1950 is good too.

quite possible that the HD3870 will break 1ghz+ considering that people where getting to 800mhz core speeds on the HD2900 series of radeon video cards.
 
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but the big question is .. what res does everyone here game at ....
 
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The 8800GT beat it at every resolution...So not sure why that is important.

But just for kicks...I run native at 1600x1200 or down to 1280x1024 depending on game and eye-candy.
 

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I don't feel let down by ATI... I'm about to ditch my 8600GT for a 2900GT...

Either that or wait for the new 38** cards. They have awesome bang/buck, which is what ATI has always been good with.
 
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Oh noes! Not another failure AMD/ATi. We had faith in you last time when you said the 2900XT would be awesome, don't let us down again:(
 
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