Crysis on the 3870..

cefurkan · Nov 18, 2007

trog100 said:
one is 8 x AA forced in the cat control center the other is no AA..

1680 x 1050 setting on high.. backs up my fraps readings i think.. 30-ish with no AA..

trog

ps.. bit higher than my fraps estimate thow looking closer.. also dosnt seem to show the big AA hit i experienced with 2 x and 4 x..

i asked game aa not catalist

for example nvidia control panel aa not working

also at cod 4 if u open aa from catalist ur IQ drops(my friend tested with 2900xt)

but nwm

Oliver_FF · Nov 18, 2007

newconroer said:
People who are looking for a card of Crysis, are going to be looking for one that can play it maxed, at least that's what all the posts suggest, that's what their questions are aimed at.

By "maxed" most people mean on the high settings. Take Oblivion nearly two years back for example. How many people brought 7900's and 1900's to play Oblivion "maxed" but ended up playing with the shadows set to like 50% and no filtering?

I technically got my HD3870XT for Christmas, but i've got it early because it's not sensible leaving computer hardware in it's box for that long, the consequence being all the games that I want to play on it are being saved till Christmas. So i've got the card, can play all my games on max just like i used to, and benefit from it over christmas when i get all the newer games.

To me, this thread is very helpful - I now know that i'll get a good experience from Crysis on High at 1280x1024 - it's definitely put my mind to rest.

As for questioning the "Very High" settings, lets be sensible about this - even a £400 graphics card can't put out decent fps on that, so why ask?

Oliver_FF · Nov 18, 2007

cefurkan said:
i asked game aa not catalist

for example nvidia control panel aa not working

also at cod 4 if u open aa from catalist ur IQ drops(my friend tested with 2900xt)

but nwm

CoD4 is a game that i DO have

1280x1024, all settings as high as they go, 4xFSAA from in-game, model details on Normal (can't change

) the lowest i've had in intense outdoor fighting is around 35, indoors i've had all the way into the hundreds of fps.

cefurkan · Nov 18, 2007

Oliver_FF said:
CoD4 is a game that i DO have

1280x1024, all settings as high as they go, 4xFSAA from in-game, model details on Normal (can't change ) the lowest i've had in intense outdoor fighting is around 35, indoors i've had all the way into the hundreds of fps.

Oliver_FF · Nov 18, 2007

they all look soooo good

Can't wait to play this game XD

trog100 · Nov 18, 2007

with Cod 4.. at 1680 x 1050 with settings maxed out and 4 x AA the 3870 useing fraps in a fairly intense fight scene was giving me frame rates of around 45-ish

not the slightest problem with cod 4 but i didnt expect there to be..

when a game comes with "very high" or "ultra quality" one can assume its for the future and no normal mortal is intended to be able to use it.. kinda of reminds me of quake 4 with its ultra quality texture setting back in the days when 256 of memory on a card was the norm.. it needed 512 cos ultra meant none compressed..

trog

cefurkan · Nov 18, 2007

Oliver_FF said:
they all look soooo good

Can't wait to play this game XD

if u want to see some real scenes

here

win xp modded to all very high expect shadows it is high
no aa
8x af
1280 pixel

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niko084 · Nov 18, 2007

Please people....

Did you not notice it "WONT" play "VERY HIGH" because he runs "XP".....

From the sounds of it around the 3850/3870's are having some fairly serious driver issues currently too... Want some real numbers, wait 1-2 months and see how things are rolling.

trog100 · Nov 18, 2007

for cefurkan as requested..

4x game aa 16 x forced af.. at high settings at the ask for resolution..

trog

cefurkan · Nov 18, 2007

trog100 said:
for cefurkan as requested..

4x game aa 16 x forced af.. at high settings at the ask for resolution..

trog

is this in win xp and 1280 pixel

or vista and 1680 pixel ?

trog100 · Nov 19, 2007

win xp 1280 pixel.. how does it compare..

trog

newconroer · Nov 19, 2007

Oliver_FF said:
By "maxed" most people mean on the high settings. Take Oblivion nearly two years back for example. How many people brought 7900's and 1900's to play Oblivion "maxed" but ended up playing with the shadows set to like 50% and no filtering?

I technically got my HD3870XT for Christmas, but i've got it early because it's not sensible leaving computer hardware in it's box for that long, the consequence being all the games that I want to play on it are being saved till Christmas. So i've got the card, can play all my games on max just like i used to, and benefit from it over christmas when i get all the newer games.

To me, this thread is very helpful - I now know that i'll get a good experience from Crysis on High at 1280x1024 - it's definitely put my mind to rest.

As for questioning the "Very High" settings, lets be sensible about this - even a £400 graphics card can't put out decent fps on that, so why ask?

That's all good and dandy for you, but by knowing the performance of the newer cards from both ATi and Nvidia, we can determine whether or not they'll be able to handle Crysis with all it's glory. If it cannot, then you can then conclude that you might as well use XP, if you're going to be stuck on 'high' settings.

Since Crysis is pretty forgiving about mouse lag even at low frames, people might accept low twenties/high teens frames, so they can have all of the eye candy. Yet, if all of the tests are using 'high,' because they're just trying to show-off their frames rating, then it's pointless.

We already know current cards can handle it on High...

Dr. Spankenstein · Nov 19, 2007

newconroer said:
That's all good and dandy for you, but by knowing the performance of the newer cards from both ATi and Nvidia, we can determine whether or not they'll be able to handle Crysis with all it's glory. If it cannot, then you can then conclude that you might as well use XP, if you're going to be stuck on 'high' settings.

Since Crysis is pretty forgiving about mouse lag even at low frames, people might accept low twenties/high teens frames, so they can have all of the eye candy. Yet, if all of the tests are using 'high,' because they're just trying to show-off their frames rating, then it's pointless.

We already know current cards can handle it on High...

Hear, hear! My lowly 1950xt handled "High" settings with relative ease (when it was working! *grumble, grumble*) It didn't do so shabby with all options on "Very High" settings via the tweaked cvars, either.

I too would like to know if these new cards are a MAJOR step up or just a mild boost to what we have now. The only way to tell is to punish them with the most demanding soft.

My 2 pennies...

niko084 · Nov 19, 2007

Dr. Spankenstein said:
Hear, hear! My lowly 1950xt handled "High" settings with relative ease (when it was working! *grumble, grumble*) It didn't do so shabby with all options on "Very High" settings via the tweaked cvars, either.

I too would like to know if these new cards are a MAJOR step up or just a mild boost to what we have now. The only way to tell is to punish them with the most demanding soft.

My 2 pennies...

3870 should by all means take your 1950xt to the town...
My 2600xt gddr4 competes hand and hand with my old 1950pro...

And a set of 2900 pro's I put in a customers machine a few weaks ago beats up my 1950xt's pretty good.

bim27142 · Nov 19, 2007

ei ya'll guys! i have a question.... i believe this card is PCIe 2.0 right? will this be compatible with my board (EpoX 9NPA3 Ultra) which i believe is PCIe 1.1... i've read a PCIe 2.0 board accepts PCIe 1.1 cards but will it be the same vice versa?

thanks

newconroer · Nov 19, 2007

Aye, it might just take the 1950 'to town,' but will it take Crysis 'to town?'

@Bim

Yes sir, it will. And you needn't worry that by having a 1.1 board that your 2.0 card will not be performing at max capacity. GPUs do not yet use all of the bandwidth available through PCI-E 1.1 :0

bim27142 · Nov 19, 2007

aight thanks! that's very enlightening....

niko084 · Nov 19, 2007

newconroer said:
Aye, it might just take the 1950 'to town,' but will it take Crysis 'to town?'

@Bim

Yes sir, it will. And you needn't worry that by having a 1.1 board that your 2.0 card will not be performing at max capacity. GPUs do not yet use all of the bandwidth available through PCI-E 1.1 :0

I think it will improve massively with drivers and crysis updates...

FYI-
Notice these numbers are given from Windows XP...

The 3850/3870's are known right now to perform very poorly in XP and moderately in Vista.

Dr. Spankenstein · Nov 19, 2007

niko084 said:
3870 should by all means take your 1950xt to the town...
My 2600xt gddr4 competes hand and hand with my old 1950pro...

Yeah, but who wants a 2600xt anymore?!? :laugh:

And a set of 2900 pro's I put in a customers machine a few weaks ago beats up my 1950xt's pretty good.

Blimey! I would certainly hope so! But by what margin vs. PITA and expense!
With "Crossfire Fever" taking over, makes you wonder if they have actually maxed-out the potential for GPU architecture and have no alternative but to use multiple chips (ala rendering farms) or are we just getting feed some bunk to get us to buy more hardware.
I have yet to see crossfire results that have made me gasp at the gains. Maybe someone needs to educate me as to the real benefits.

Wile E · Nov 19, 2007

Dr. Spankenstein said:
Yeah, but who wants a 2600xt anymore?!?

Blimey! I would certainly hope so! But by what margin vs. PITA and expense!
With "Crossfire Fever" taking over, makes you wonder if they have actually maxed-out the potential for GPU architecture and have no alternative but to use multiple chips (ala rendering farms) or are we just getting feed some bunk to get us to buy more hardware.
I have yet to see crossfire results that have made me gasp at the gains. Maybe someone needs to educate me as to the real benefits.

To put the relative performance difference in perspective, my stock 2900XT more than doubled the performance of my OCed X1800XT.

Dr. Spankenstein · Nov 19, 2007

Now that's some gain! Then again, we're now talking 2900xt, which is a different beast!

I'm just dubious of the whole Crossfire deal.

erocker · Nov 19, 2007

Idk, I've seen some voltmodded x1950pro's that are pretty insane. Not 8800 numbers mind you, but better than x1950xtx numbers.

trt740 · Nov 19, 2007

Dr. Spankenstein said:
Now that's some gain! Then again, we're now talking 2900xt, which is a different beast!

I'm just dubious of the whole Crossfire deal.

not really the 3870 performs almost exactly like a 2900 xt

Wile E · Nov 19, 2007

Dr. Spankenstein said:
Now that's some gain! Then again, we're now talking 2900xt, which is a different beast!

I'm just dubious of the whole Crossfire deal.

Sorry, misread your other post. I thought you were doubtful of moving away from your 1950.

Crossfire shows gains of between 60-75% on average, depending on the game.

niko084 · Nov 19, 2007

Wile E said:
Sorry, misread your other post. I thought you were doubtful of moving away from your 1950.

Crossfire shows gains of between 60-75% on average, depending on the game.

Unfortunately Crysis is one of the few that show next to no gain for it...
I am more than certain this issue will be addressed and fixed!

Even if you wanted to go up... A 3850 might even contend if not flat out beat your 1950 as soon as we get a driver update or 2.

As for the 2600xt, anyone who uses linux might want one... LOL
Dx10, low power requirement, fairly quick and runs under linux like a champ!
And for $100, you still can't touch it in dx10, dx9 not too shabby either, people complain that the 1950gt's and pro's will beat them with AA, true but you "need" that AA on the 1950 for the same IQ that the 2600xt gives without it.

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