ms-7094 bios

spud107 · Nov 25, 2007, 05:36 AM

anyone good with bios's
need to find out if vcore options are there,
1 is original, other has pci lock and other things enabled.

Ketxxx · Nov 25, 2007, 02:44 PM

I looked at the AGP \ PCI lock version, without those your not going to be able to OC very far anyway. Having a quick look I didnt see any CPU vcore options, but I did unlock a shitstorm of stuff, including an options for G.lan which your board seemingly has looking at its specs, but the option in the BIOS was locked out

Its not like your G.lan is crap either, supports up to 1000MB\s.

So in total here is what I did unlock

Load failsafe defaults (yes this was hidden.. go figure)
Various voltage monitoring stats (+3.3v, vbat etc)
CPU shutdown temp (yep you can now adjust this)
Fan3 speed (unsure if this is a monitor option or something that allows fan speed control.. eitherway its there)
PCI\VGA palette snoop
Vlink data rate (default 4x, 8x also selectable)
MTRR mapping
CPU cache options

Thers a load of other stuff too, but thats all I can remember off the top of my head.

spud107 · Nov 25, 2007, 03:44 PM

thanks, il give it a try in a bit,
any idea what mtrr mapping is for? discrete or continuous
got glan but everything else here has 100mb, but been having probs with the onboard, using pci card instead,
do you use modbin for this?

without the pci lock i cant read the sate drive above 223mhz, so it def helps lol

DanTheBanjoman · Nov 25, 2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

Its not like your G.lan is crap either, supports up to 1000MB\s.

Impressive, most Gigabit NIC's only do 1 Gigabit.(hence their name) But one that does 1000Mb/s surely is nice. (assuming you meant Mb and not MB of course)

Besides, I doubt the whole NIC was disabled, that wouldn't be very cost effective. Probably just the ability to boot from the thing.

spud107 · Nov 25, 2007, 04:18 PM

-lan device
-lan controller
-lan boot rom
thats whats enabled

Vertol · Nov 25, 2007, 08:37 PM

I also have this MOBO ,question when flashing and it asks what file I am trying to up date ,should I type in NEO2FMOD.BIN or should I type in W7094vms.360 Thanx .
I have flashed bios many times before ,but has not been for awhile now .

Ketxxx · Nov 25, 2007, 11:52 PM

Type the filename of the .bin file.

gonzo · Nov 28, 2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

Type the filename of the .bin file.

hello.
I would like to flash my bios with this modified bios because i am also suffering from the lack of 'pci/agp lock' .
How can i flash my bios, i downloaded the modified bios (a .bin file)
Which flashing software should i use, and how to use it.
thanks for your help

spud107 · Nov 28, 2007, 10:21 PM

either the award utility included with the bios, use in dos
or winflash from windows,

Ketxxx · Nov 28, 2007, 11:15 PM

Hows the modded BIOS doing? Anything that could do with tweaking in respect to layout on any of the pages?

spud107 · Nov 29, 2007, 12:04 AM

its doin alright, no issues, not bothered bout the layout too much as long as the options are there, jus not had time to tweak it yet,

Ketxxx · Nov 29, 2007, 12:47 AM

I'm a perfectionist

so if anything even looks a bit funny tell me an ill adjust the layout

spud107 · Nov 29, 2007, 12:50 AM

cool, will do,
btw was there a modded bios for the 1950pro agp? not sure if it was for pcie only,

Ketxxx · Nov 29, 2007, 01:03 AM

I think I did do some. I remember making a post with a bunch of AGP BIOSes an telling ppl not to bug me if something didnt work with them cos I had no way of testing the AGP versions.

spud107 · Nov 29, 2007, 01:10 AM

think thats why i didnt wanna try at the time, gonna see if i can make a usb stick bootable . .

Vertol · Nov 29, 2007, 03:53 AM

Yea , I sat back and kind of watched if any one responsed ! And thanx all .
What the bios mod was ( I took out and old DFI cd and it had an older version of Winflash on it ) I installed it and the rest is history .lol ) Thanx Ketxxx you the man .

Winflash was the way to go !

gonzo · Nov 29, 2007, 09:13 AM

Thank you for the answers.

So i am going to try to flash my bios with this new one.
I will use winflash utility because i don't have any floppy drive so i don't know how to boot in dos.
Any version of winflash should work?

about winflash, it seems that there are some options to mark or unmark

which one should i use (above image is not from my computer so it is another version of bios written).

I really hope this will work.
I saw on a forum that there was an other way to lock PCI/AGP frequencies of K8T neo2 v2.0 motherboard, by using clockgen and changing the values of the byte 9 bit 6 from 7F to 3F. I tried it but it results systematicly in a freeze of my computer, arghh

, so the modified bios is the last chance for me to overclock my amd3700+

Ketxxx · Nov 29, 2007, 11:36 AM

Upgrade all parts of the BIOS.

Vertol · Nov 30, 2007, 12:32 AM

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=275177
This is what I boot into windows now ,all stable .
I used Crystal Cupid to raise my voltage to just over 1.4 volt ( could not get it to go any more ) And I used the clockgen download ( In the techPowerUp ,download section here ) and in the pll dropdown bar I used ics950405 pll ,then in clockgen options I checked appy at startup and thats it . I'll leave it at 2764.4 MHz (276.44 * 10)for now .thanx again

Vertol · Nov 30, 2007, 12:35 AM

Ketxxx < I just saw that post of yours ,did you re-mod the bios bin again ? thanx

Ketxxx · Nov 30, 2007, 01:44 AM

Nope. I'll change any minor layout issues there may be in the BIOS, but as of yet nobody has mentioned any so I assume all is good.

smoggy · Dec 5, 2007, 05:50 PM

Hi, I've got the K8T Neo2-F V2.0 with a 3700+. I've installed ketxxx's bios - great work -
the agp/pci lock works great, I've overclocked to the max possible in the bios which
is 232 MHz which makes my chip run at 2551 MHz. But I think this processor can do
more, motherboard sensor says temperature is only 28 deg. C. I'm using linux so I
can't use something like clockgen. Is there any way the bios can be hacked so that
I can type in a number larger than 232 for the fsb speed? I'm thinking that if clockgen
can reprogram the clock generator chip for a higher frequency, the bios should be
able to as well. Does anyone know if the 232 limit is real or is just some artificial
limit msi have put in for stability or marketing reasons (ie they want to you buy the
more expensive "overclocking" board). Can the bios be modded so that I can type
in a number larger than 232 to get a higher FSB?

spud107 · Dec 5, 2007, 10:57 PM

i wish there was,

CaptCrunch · Dec 15, 2007, 04:40 PM

I can't get above 220 MHz fsb, sata hard drive I get a boot failure. Where in the bios exactly is the pci/agp lock?? Downloaded and installed Ketxxx moded bios, no problems, but cant find the pci/agp lock?? Memory is OCZ pc3200 platinum V.2, cpu amd 64 x2 4200+ manchester. I think I just need to find the pci/agp lock in the bios and all will be good. Thanks in advance for any help.

spud107 · Dec 15, 2007, 05:39 PM

there is no pci/agp lock option, its just enabled somewhere within the bios code,
have you flashed your bios with the correct one?
because with the pci/agp lock bios the sata should function fine regardless of fsb

System Name:	spuds K8-X2
Processor:	amd athlon X2 4200+ toledo s939 2750mhz 250x11 1.4 vcore
Motherboard:	MSI K8N Neo4-F v1.0 (MS-7125) nforce4 sata2 mod, zalman nb cooler,
Cooling:	akasa evo "blue" + 90mm fan, 2x120mm front, 250mm side, 120mm rear, 120mm in psu, pci slot exhaust.
Memory:	OCZ Platinum XTC DDR PC3200 4GB(4x1024) @250mhz ddr500 3-3-3-8 2T
Video Card:	sapphire HD3870 512mb GDDR4 vf900cu, several ramsinks on components
Harddisk:	hitachi DS 160gb sataII(slightly fried) / hitachi DS 120gb ATA / Seagate Barracuda 160gb sataII
CD/DVD Drive:	PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 / LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H / XBOX360 HDDVD drive
CRT/LCD Model:	CTX EX1300F 20" flatscreen CRT - 1280x1024@100hz, 15" lcd secondary rotated - 768x1024
Case:	mesh server/gaming black case, 9x 5.25' drive bays, silvestone auto fan controller
Sound Card:	onboard realtek alc850 7.1 - technics SH-E85 DSC - sony home theatre surround speakers/sub
PSU:	winpower 650w, system draws around 400w under load
Software:	Vista64 as main, xp as backup os.
Benchmarks:	too busy playing games lol

System Name:	Prowler. V5.
Processor:	Q8400 @ 3.6GHz 450FSB (testing)
Motherboard:	P5Q Pro w\ my custom BIOS
Cooling:	CPU: CNPS 9500, VGA: VF900, RAM: XTC Cooler, Rest: 1x80mm LED, 2x 120mm LED, 1x 40mm LED, 1x 135mm
Memory:	2x2GB Transcend aXeRam PC2-8500
Video Card:	2x XFX HD4830 512MB
Harddisk:	Maxtor DM10 NCQ, 16MB cache, SATA 250GB (WD Black 640GB ordered)
CD/DVD Drive:	Pioneer 112DSV 18x dual DVD-RW, Lite-On 16x DVD combo
CRT/LCD Model:	22" LG Flatron W2242S
Case:	Unique
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar DX 7.1 PCI-E
PSU:	Hi-Power 800W Modular. 3.3 & 5v rails 30A, 4x 12v rails @ 20A each.
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Nov 25, 2007, 03:44 PM	#3
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	thanks, il give it a try in a bit, any idea what mtrr mapping is for? discrete or continuous got glan but everything else here has 100mb, but been having probs with the onboard, using pci card instead, do you use modbin for this? without the pci lock i cant read the sate drive above 223mhz, so it def helps lol __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.” Last edited by spud107; Nov 25, 2007 at 04:12 PM.

System Name:	spuds K8-X2
Processor:	amd athlon X2 4200+ toledo s939 2750mhz 250x11 1.4 vcore
Motherboard:	MSI K8N Neo4-F v1.0 (MS-7125) nforce4 sata2 mod, zalman nb cooler,
Cooling:	akasa evo "blue" + 90mm fan, 2x120mm front, 250mm side, 120mm rear, 120mm in psu, pci slot exhaust.
Memory:	OCZ Platinum XTC DDR PC3200 4GB(4x1024) @250mhz ddr500 3-3-3-8 2T
Video Card:	sapphire HD3870 512mb GDDR4 vf900cu, several ramsinks on components
Harddisk:	hitachi DS 160gb sataII(slightly fried) / hitachi DS 120gb ATA / Seagate Barracuda 160gb sataII
CD/DVD Drive:	PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 / LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1H / XBOX360 HDDVD drive
CRT/LCD Model:	CTX EX1300F 20" flatscreen CRT - 1280x1024@100hz, 15" lcd secondary rotated - 768x1024
Case:	mesh server/gaming black case, 9x 5.25' drive bays, silvestone auto fan controller
Sound Card:	onboard realtek alc850 7.1 - technics SH-E85 DSC - sony home theatre surround speakers/sub
PSU:	winpower 650w, system draws around 400w under load
Software:	Vista64 as main, xp as backup os.
Benchmarks:	too busy playing games lol

Processor:	Dual Xeon 5506
Motherboard:	Asus Z8NA-D6
Cooling:	2x Thermalright HR-01 X/passive
Memory:	6GB Corsair something
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 260 Core 216
Harddisk:	None
CD/DVD Drive:	None
CRT/LCD Model:	24" Asus
Case:	Thermaltake Swing
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	620W CM
Software:	Win2k8

Nov 25, 2007, 04:18 PM	#5
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	-lan device -lan controller -lan boot rom thats whats enabled __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

Nov 25, 2007, 08:37 PM	#6
Vertol Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 17 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I also have this MOBO ,question when flashing and it asks what file I am trying to up date ,should I type in NEO2FMOD.BIN or should I type in W7094vms.360 Thanx . I have flashed bios many times before ,but has not been for awhile now .

Nov 25, 2007, 11:52 PM	#7
Ketxxx Eligible for custom title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingdom of gods Posts: 6,384 (4.44/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 569 Times in 411 Posts System Specs	Type the filename of the .bin file. __________________ WARNING: I am cracking down on stupidity in the forums. Anyone caught making a dumb statement clearly not knowing many, if any of the facts, will promptly be directed to xtremesystems. Sig edited. If anyone wants to know about the E4400 (E7200 sold) drop me a PM

Nov 28, 2007, 10:21 PM	#9
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	either the award utility included with the bios, use in dos or winflash from windows, __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

Nov 28, 2007, 11:15 PM	#10
Ketxxx Eligible for custom title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingdom of gods Posts: 6,384 (4.44/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 569 Times in 411 Posts System Specs	Hows the modded BIOS doing? Anything that could do with tweaking in respect to layout on any of the pages? __________________ WARNING: I am cracking down on stupidity in the forums. Anyone caught making a dumb statement clearly not knowing many, if any of the facts, will promptly be directed to xtremesystems. Sig edited. If anyone wants to know about the E4400 (E7200 sold) drop me a PM

Nov 29, 2007, 12:04 AM	#11
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	its doin alright, no issues, not bothered bout the layout too much as long as the options are there, jus not had time to tweak it yet, __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

Nov 29, 2007, 12:47 AM	#12
Ketxxx Eligible for custom title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingdom of gods Posts: 6,384 (4.44/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 569 Times in 411 Posts System Specs	I'm a perfectionist so if anything even looks a bit funny tell me an ill adjust the layout __________________ WARNING: I am cracking down on stupidity in the forums. Anyone caught making a dumb statement clearly not knowing many, if any of the facts, will promptly be directed to xtremesystems. Sig edited. If anyone wants to know about the E4400 (E7200 sold) drop me a PM

Nov 29, 2007, 12:50 AM	#13
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	cool, will do, btw was there a modded bios for the 1950pro agp? not sure if it was for pcie only, __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

Nov 29, 2007, 01:03 AM	#14
Ketxxx Eligible for custom title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingdom of gods Posts: 6,384 (4.44/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 569 Times in 411 Posts System Specs	I think I did do some. I remember making a post with a bunch of AGP BIOSes an telling ppl not to bug me if something didnt work with them cos I had no way of testing the AGP versions. __________________ WARNING: I am cracking down on stupidity in the forums. Anyone caught making a dumb statement clearly not knowing many, if any of the facts, will promptly be directed to xtremesystems. Sig edited. If anyone wants to know about the E4400 (E7200 sold) drop me a PM

Nov 29, 2007, 01:10 AM	#15
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	think thats why i didnt wanna try at the time, gonna see if i can make a usb stick bootable . . __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

Nov 29, 2007, 03:53 AM	#16
Vertol Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 17 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yea , I sat back and kind of watched if any one responsed ! And thanx all . What the bios mod was ( I took out and old DFI cd and it had an older version of Winflash on it ) I installed it and the rest is history .lol ) Thanx Ketxxx you the man . Winflash was the way to go ! Last edited by Vertol; Nov 29, 2007 at 03:55 AM. Reason: winflash

Nov 29, 2007, 09:13 AM	#17
gonzo Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the answers. So i am going to try to flash my bios with this new one. I will use winflash utility because i don't have any floppy drive so i don't know how to boot in dos. Any version of winflash should work? about winflash, it seems that there are some options to mark or unmark which one should i use (above image is not from my computer so it is another version of bios written). I really hope this will work. I saw on a forum that there was an other way to lock PCI/AGP frequencies of K8T neo2 v2.0 motherboard, by using clockgen and changing the values of the byte 9 bit 6 from 7F to 3F. I tried it but it results systematicly in a freeze of my computer, arghh, so the modified bios is the last chance for me to overclock my amd3700+

Nov 29, 2007, 11:36 AM	#18
Ketxxx Eligible for custom title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingdom of gods Posts: 6,384 (4.44/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 569 Times in 411 Posts System Specs	Upgrade all parts of the BIOS. __________________ WARNING: I am cracking down on stupidity in the forums. Anyone caught making a dumb statement clearly not knowing many, if any of the facts, will promptly be directed to xtremesystems. Sig edited. If anyone wants to know about the E4400 (E7200 sold) drop me a PM

Nov 30, 2007, 12:32 AM	#19
Vertol Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 17 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=275177 This is what I boot into windows now ,all stable . I used Crystal Cupid to raise my voltage to just over 1.4 volt ( could not get it to go any more ) And I used the clockgen download ( In the techPowerUp ,download section here ) and in the pll dropdown bar I used ics950405 pll ,then in clockgen options I checked appy at startup and thats it . I'll leave it at 2764.4 MHz (276.44 * 10)for now .thanx again

Nov 30, 2007, 12:35 AM	#20
Vertol Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 17 (0.02/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ketxxx < I just saw that post of yours ,did you re-mod the bios bin again ? thanx

Nov 30, 2007, 01:44 AM	#21
Ketxxx Eligible for custom title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingdom of gods Posts: 6,384 (4.44/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 569 Times in 411 Posts System Specs	Nope. I'll change any minor layout issues there may be in the BIOS, but as of yet nobody has mentioned any so I assume all is good. __________________ WARNING: I am cracking down on stupidity in the forums. Anyone caught making a dumb statement clearly not knowing many, if any of the facts, will promptly be directed to xtremesystems. Sig edited. If anyone wants to know about the E4400 (E7200 sold) drop me a PM

Dec 5, 2007, 05:50 PM	#22
smoggy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, I've got the K8T Neo2-F V2.0 with a 3700+. I've installed ketxxx's bios - great work - the agp/pci lock works great, I've overclocked to the max possible in the bios which is 232 MHz which makes my chip run at 2551 MHz. But I think this processor can do more, motherboard sensor says temperature is only 28 deg. C. I'm using linux so I can't use something like clockgen. Is there any way the bios can be hacked so that I can type in a number larger than 232 for the fsb speed? I'm thinking that if clockgen can reprogram the clock generator chip for a higher frequency, the bios should be able to as well. Does anyone know if the 232 limit is real or is just some artificial limit msi have put in for stability or marketing reasons (ie they want to you buy the more expensive "overclocking" board). Can the bios be modded so that I can type in a number larger than 232 to get a higher FSB?

Dec 5, 2007, 10:57 PM	#23
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	i wish there was, __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

Dec 15, 2007, 04:40 PM	#24
CaptCrunch Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 7 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can't get above 220 MHz fsb, sata hard drive I get a boot failure. Where in the bios exactly is the pci/agp lock?? Downloaded and installed Ketxxx moded bios, no problems, but cant find the pci/agp lock?? Memory is OCZ pc3200 platinum V.2, cpu amd 64 x2 4200+ manchester. I think I just need to find the pci/agp lock in the bios and all will be good. Thanks in advance for any help.

Dec 15, 2007, 05:39 PM	#25
spud107 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: scotland Posts: 842 (0.77/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 113 Times in 109 Posts System Specs	there is no pci/agp lock option, its just enabled somewhere within the bios code, have you flashed your bios with the correct one? because with the pci/agp lock bios the sata should function fine regardless of fsb __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature/u8360.png[/img] 2nd system - Spare Bits - athlonxp 2400@2.3ghz - 1.5gb ddr - 40gb fujitsu hd - nvidia 6800 ultra 256mb - xp32 msi history - 6368coppermine 6373palomino 6577northwood 6570thoroughbred-b 7094san diego 7125toledo “if it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.”

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