stupid system idle process :@

choppy · Dec 31, 2007

system slooowdown

this damn process has appeared out of nowhere and is making my system run noticeably slower, where if i click any open window in my taskbar it actually takes about 5 seconds for it to appear, is there any way to get rid of this stupid process, its eating up to 90% of my cpu :mad:

Namslas90 · Dec 31, 2007

Windows System Idle Process is kind of weird. If it says its using 90% of your CPU - that means that 90% of your CPU is not running anything. To get your speed back up use MS config to turn off things like Fast user switching, Indexing services, Print Spooler(if no printer), Secondary login, and updater services(just remember to check for updates once in a while), etc. These things will take up "access speed" when the CPU System Idle Process is "running"(doing nothing).

Check the Windows Optimization Thread for more info on Optimizing Windows; http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11119

:toast:

choppy · Dec 31, 2007

ive followed the optimization guide on here, plus a few others. been through everything youve just mentioned, edited some registry settings too. defragged, used bootvis to optimize startup. all i have starting up is avg and realtek audio, startup takes about 3 loong minutes and anything that i click on takes at least a couple seconds to respond. ive only got about 25 processes running, ive never noticed system idle process before and its now that my comp has 'slowed' down . the last thing i instaleld were drivers for my printer and that was it

Namslas90 · Dec 31, 2007

You might have caught a virus, download free version of AVG and run it along with SuperAntiSpyware might just find your problem.

:toast:

btarunr · Dec 31, 2007

System Idle process = the amount your CPU is free. More is the "CPU usage" for this item, more your CPU is free.

Steevo · Dec 31, 2007

choppy said:
ive followed the optimization guide on here, plus a few others. been through everything youve just mentioned, edited some registry settings too. defragged, used bootvis to optimize startup. all i have starting up is avg and realtek audio, startup takes about 3 loong minutes and anything that i click on takes at least a couple seconds to respond. ive only got about 25 processes running, ive never noticed system idle process before and its now that my comp has 'slowed' down . the last thing i instaleld were drivers for my printer and that was it

Your WIA service is starting since you probably either A) Have a multifunction printer, or B) have a card reader on the printer or C)have crappy drivers.

Any of the above could be true.

Go to Start-->Run inthe box that opens type "services.msc" with out the quote marks, and scroll down to the bottom of the page and see if "Windows Image Acquistion" service si running and set to automatic.

My Canon stays off most of the time as everytime the system boots it tries to look for disks in the card reader, plus initilises the scanner and starts the WIA service, I finally learned to leave it off unless I was going to use it.

choppy · Dec 31, 2007

Namslas90 said:
You might have caught a virus, download free version of AVG and run it along with SuperAntiSpyware might just find your problem.

ive just ran avg for 2 hours and its found nothing, so i aint got a virus!

steevo, by multifunction you mean scanner etc.? its just a printer but i did find wia in services but it wasnt running, disabled it anyway. why would i wanna make it automatic for if i have no other use than to print?

sitting here typing system idle >80 yet i still have 'lag' with anything i click on or do :banghead:

any other ideas? im gna try uninstall them drivers and see if it makes a difference

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

hijackthis says:

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.0 (BETA)
Scan saved at 00:39:38, on 01/01/2008
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgemc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Choppy\My Documents\downloads\HiJackThis_v2.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.co.uk/
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file)
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RTHDCPL] RTHDCPL.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSConfig] C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\Binaries\MSConfig.exe /auto
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SYSTEM')
O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'Default user')
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/win...ls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1197519601343
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/mic...ls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1197519647078
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{5FA747C1-BA5E-4804-8877-EDF75086E7C9}: NameServer = 212.139.132.4,212.139.132.21
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\..\{5FA747C1-BA5E-4804-8877-EDF75086E7C9}: NameServer = 212.139.132.4,212.139.132.21
O17 - HKLM\System\CS2\Services\Tcpip\..\{5FA747C1-BA5E-4804-8877-EDF75086E7C9}: NameServer = 212.139.132.4,212.139.132.21
O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Browseui preloader - {438755C2-A8BA-11D1-B96B-00A0C90312E1} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Component Categories cache daemon - {8C7461EF-2B13-11d2-BE35-3078302C2030} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AVG E-mail Scanner (AVGEMS) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgemc.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: Macromedia Licensing Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Macromedia Shared\Service\Macromedia Licensing.exe
O23 - Service: NBService - Nero AG - C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe

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End of file - 4938 bytes

anything dodgy catch anybodys eye?

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

actually i just noticed ctfmon.exe running 4 times? is that what it means :/

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

btw i cant even watch any video either online or local, it just plays at like 2/3 fps. summats definitely f**ked up...

Steevo · Jan 1, 2008

Post a everest report, just block out your XP key, and any other personal information.

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

well so far , i tried to play FEAR and the video is so jerky like it has trouble playing it. this in comparison to last night when i was playing FEAR with no problems at all.

uninstalled everything that was related to the printer, nothings changed.
uninstalled gfx card drivers, updated to latest nvidia drivers, nothings changed.

downloaded spybot s&d, when i click it, it runs in the task manager at 90% cpu usage but never actually loads up :/

im lost as to what this could be

steevo would you like hardware or software report?

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

im guessing software! its a big ass report, so il post whats relevant? would you like services report too, its pretty long mind,,

--------[ Processes ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AppleMobileDeviceService.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe 32-bit 2260 KB 1724 KB
avgamsvr.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe 32-bit 396 KB 2688 KB
avgcc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe 32-bit 344 KB 3832 KB
avgemc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgemc.exe 32-bit 1888 KB 2432 KB
avgupsvc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe 32-bit 676 KB 780 KB
everest.exe C:\Program Files\Lavalys\EVEREST Corporate + Ultimate Edition\everest.exe 32-bit 7768 KB 26612 KB
Explorer.EXE C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE 32-bit 28036 KB 18992 KB
iexplore.exe C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe 32-bit 12360 KB 26448 KB
lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe 32-bit 1520 KB 3864 KB
nvsvc32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe 32-bit 4504 KB 2732 KB
RTHDCPL.EXE C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE 32-bit 22704 KB 17812 KB
RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE 32-bit 5324 KB 2808 KB
services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe 32-bit 3508 KB 1808 KB
smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe 32-bit 400 KB 168 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe 32-bit 22108 KB 14392 KB
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe 32-bit 5008 KB 3220 KB
uTorrent.exe C:\Program Files\uTorrent\uTorrent.exe 32-bit 35840 KB 42188 KB
winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe 32-bit 3364 KB 6128 KB
wscntfy.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe 32-bit 2396 KB 680 KB

Steevo · Jan 1, 2008

Sounds like a hardware malfunction, like a overheating CPU that is throttling down. Thus the whole report.

Or check your temps.

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

steevo your bang on, check this new thread http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=48475

the thing is my temps are fine as reported by speedfan and the bios itself, so what else couls have gone wrong? i'll put up the whole report for you m8 jut give u a while cos im off out

Yin · Jan 1, 2008

check if your L2 cache is enabled, one time my L2 cache on my cpu got disable and everything lagged to do this go to

start>run

type in regedit

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/SesionManager/MemoryManagement
-> DWORD SecondLevelDataCache

is set to the right value (change it to 0 for autodetect I wouldnt advise that tho)

Steevo · Jan 1, 2008

Windows XP no longer has control over the l2 cache unless it is mapped through the memory addresses directly, and that hasn't been done for a long time. The old motherboards that had 512Kb or 1M on the board itself is where that key comes into play, as it was considered part of your physical RAM and was directly accessible by address.

Some people have gotten a boost out of older systems that don't report the memory pool to windows through the drivers, or through the BIOS, but the CPU in modern processors is in charge of the L2 Cache.

newtekie1 · Jan 1, 2008

The L2 cache problem was a problem with Windows and socket 478 Prescotts. It wouldn't use all 1M, it was a known problem. It doesn't affect any socket 775 processors, so your Celeron 420 won't have that problem.

I know this might be a long shot, but check to see if any of your drives are in PIO mode.

Go into Device Manager, and find the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers. Go into the properties of each channel and under Advanced Settings everything should read Ultra DMA. If anything is set to PIO that is probably your problem. Unintall the Channel then reboot and it should fix it.

choppy · Jan 1, 2008

yin, i had already set the l2 cache value in registry to 512k

newtekie, i have also checked the drives to check and they are DMA

please check the thread i posted earlier, im carrying on this prob there

Processor	Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 3.40GHz (400x8.5)
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Rev 1.1
Cooling	Xigmatek HDT-S1283
Memory	2x Crucial Ballistix DDR2 2GB 4:5 @ 500MHz 5-5-5-15
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX 560Ti 1GB TOP Edition
Storage	Crucial M4 128GB SSD + WD Black 500GB WD5001AALS
Display(s)	Samsung P2370HD @ 1920x1080 60Hz
Case	Antec 300
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster Live! 24-bit w/ Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 200W
Power Supply	CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 600w
Software	Windows 7 Professional Edition SP1 64-bit

Processor	Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 3.40GHz (400x8.5)
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Rev 1.1
Cooling	Xigmatek HDT-S1283
Memory	2x Crucial Ballistix DDR2 2GB 4:5 @ 500MHz 5-5-5-15
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX 560Ti 1GB TOP Edition
Storage	Crucial M4 128GB SSD + WD Black 500GB WD5001AALS
Display(s)	Samsung P2370HD @ 1920x1080 60Hz
Case	Antec 300
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster Live! 24-bit w/ Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 200W
Power Supply	CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 600w
Software	Windows 7 Professional Edition SP1 64-bit

System Name	RBMK-1000
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling	DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory	2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage	Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s)	BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case	Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s)	ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse	ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard	Gamdias Hermes E2
Software	Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Compy 386
Processor	7800X3D
Motherboard	Asus
Cooling	Air for now.....
Memory	64 GB DDR5 6400Mhz
Video Card(s)	7900XTX 310 Merc
Storage	Samsung 990 2TB, 2 SP 2TB SSDs and over 10TB spinning
Display(s)	56" Samsung 4K HDR
Audio Device(s)	ATI HDMI
Mouse	Logitech MX518
Keyboard	Razer
Software	A lot.
Benchmark Scores	Its fast. Enough.

Processor	Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 3.40GHz (400x8.5)
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Rev 1.1
Cooling	Xigmatek HDT-S1283
Memory	2x Crucial Ballistix DDR2 2GB 4:5 @ 500MHz 5-5-5-15
Video Card(s)	Asus GTX 560Ti 1GB TOP Edition
Storage	Crucial M4 128GB SSD + WD Black 500GB WD5001AALS
Display(s)	Samsung P2370HD @ 1920x1080 60Hz
Case	Antec 300
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster Live! 24-bit w/ Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 200W
Power Supply	CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 600w
Software	Windows 7 Professional Edition SP1 64-bit

stupid system idle process :@

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Motherboard	ASUS RAMPAGE II Extreme
Cooling	CM v10
Memory	Corsair 3 x 2GB TR3X6G1866C9DF
Video Card(s)	Nvidia XFX 8800GT Stock
Storage	Seagate ST3500320AS, 2 x Samsung HD103UJ
Display(s)	2408WFP
Case	Corsair 800D
Power Supply	Corsair HX750W

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Motherboard	AsRock Z470 Taichi
Cooling	Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans
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Storage	500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache
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Power Supply	eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3
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