HIS Radeon HD 3870 X2 1 GB

W1zzard · 01-25-2008, 10:57 AM

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eidairaman1 · 01-28-2008, 06:32 AM

pretty nice review, costs way less than the Single GPUs at that, plus performs higher than the other boards, Crysis and Supreme Commander are washout games anyway.

ShinyG · 01-28-2008, 06:38 AM

Much better reviews than the other 3870x2 reviews I've seen on the internet! Good job!

eidairaman1 · 01-28-2008, 06:42 AM

you mean these 2 reviews?

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...3870-x2-review

http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...70X2-1-GB.html

DaMulta · 01-28-2008, 06:48 AM

Nice review, and I'm very surprised about the lack of PCI-E 2.0.

Would you be able to use 2 maze4 GPU water blocks on this card?

Jelle Mees · 01-28-2008, 06:50 AM

Very, very nice review!

Only one thing missing, the 8800 Ultra. I think that a lot of people want to know how fast this one is compared to the "old" fastest card available.

It costs 590$ in my country, that's to bad...

sneekypeet · 01-28-2008, 06:52 AM

I dont think so DM look at my thread and look at the naked pic of W1zzards. The spacing of the holes is farther from the core on mine than his....mine will obviously use the maze4.

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DaMulta · 01-28-2008, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I dont think so DM look at my thread and look at the naked pic of W1zzards. The spacing of the holes is farther from the core on mine than his....mine will obviously use the maze4.

The block looks like it would hit the bridge chip, and some of the memory. I guess that it wouldn't be long till there is some full coverage blocks out.

tkpenalty · 01-28-2008, 07:08 AM

The performance of the card is just.... wow. Well the noise issue can be easily fixed by purchasing two VF900CUs

or something like that. The card runs cool doesnt it? Its just the bad choice for the fan thats the problem. W1zzard, the reason why the second core runs warmer is due to the hot air from the first core. The air that gets to the second core can be considered as exhuast. Thats the reason why one runs warmer, its not because of how the drivers are written.

btarunr · 01-28-2008, 07:25 AM

Rice review but 8/10

Also the card being PCI-E 1.1 is a revelation. But didn't some rumored articles on TomsHardware predict massive differences between using this on PCI-E 1.1 and 2.0 slots? I could have put up the link but Tomshardware removed the article.

Finally, the fastest video-card is an ATI. After say a huge time gap? But for how long?

Jelle Mees · 01-28-2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Rice review but 8/10

8 is fair. It uses a lot of power and it's very noisy. Not to mention that the driver support for this card will be terrible in the first weeks/months.

8/10 is the correct score.

eidairaman1 · 01-28-2008, 08:01 AM

ya i guess a 5/10 is average.

DrunkenMafia · 01-28-2008, 08:34 AM

great review, its a shame it sux in crysis though as that is the game a lot of people compare to these days, I love the power of it in almost all of the other games / Bench apps though..

I hope that ATI can make the drivers for this card really work. Their other twin gpu cards have not been all that great so it would be nice to see this thing really rock out... And 2 of em in crossfire!!!!! now that is what I wanna see.

As always your reviews are by far the best on the net imo....

BTW W1zz, what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good.

btarunr · 01-28-2008, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkenMafia

what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good.

The price of this card hasn't been decided/put-up yet. I guess W1zzard will put up those charts such as performance / dollar when definitively we know its price at least in the US markets. But still I wonder why Performance/Watt chart hasn't been put up.

Judas · 01-28-2008, 08:54 AM

Overall a very fairly good product "well done AMD/ATI " power consumption is not too bad if you think its running two core's. As for Crysis well what card runs well with it? it does fairly well for first drivers. Crysis is not a game its a benchmark for newer cards

Mussels · 01-28-2008, 09:30 AM

finally a review of the x2 from someone i can trust!

eidairaman1 · 01-28-2008, 09:55 AM

That game just plain sucks, what were they thinking when they released that game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkenMafia

great review, its a shame it sux in crysis though as that is the game a lot of people compare to these days, I love the power of it in almost all of the other games / Bench apps though..

I hope that ATI can make the drivers for this card really work. Their other twin gpu cards have not been all that great so it would be nice to see this thing really rock out... And 2 of em in crossfire!!!!! now that is what I wanna see.

As always your reviews are by far the best on the net imo....

BTW W1zz, what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good.

Mussels · 01-28-2008, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

That game just plain sucks, what were they thinking when they released that game.

i liked the game - that said, i had to run it on medium graphics with a system wel beyond the reccomended specs. If the performance patch comes out, people will see it as the game was intended and it will be a very different game. Without the graphics, crysis really does lose its best aspect.

Lazzer408 · 01-28-2008, 10:13 AM

Isn't that CPU bottlenecking these benchmarks? Any of the games that are cpu dependant (like Crysis) will get poor results and not reflect what the card is capable of.

Mussels · 01-28-2008, 10:17 AM

he makes a good point: wizzard, would you be willing to re-test with a faster, or overclocked CPU? preferably around 3GHz? (thats about the highest stock core 2 in the average consumers price range)

Even if you just choose 2-3 benchmarks and do tests at 3GHz and say, 3.4 or 3.6Ghz that would really be appreciated.

eidairaman1 · 01-28-2008, 10:36 AM

Well with what you just said that proves the point the game sucks. Also the point the card does well in a wide range of games is good in my book with the specs he tested with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

i liked the game - that said, i had to run it on medium graphics with a system wel beyond the reccomended specs. If the performance patch comes out, people will see it as the game was intended and it will be a very different game. Without the graphics, crysis really does lose its best aspect.

Mussels · 01-28-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Well with what you just said that proves the point the game sucks. Also the point the card does well in a wide range of games is good in my book with the specs he tested with.

Some games have more CPU needs than others. 2.2Ghz is quite low by TPU's standards, with with a dual GPU card it would be nice to see if the CPU is limiting it.

You're just a crysis hater, so i'm not talking about that anymore. You're ignoring my comments about the patch/performance needed as if thats killed it, when it hasnt - the patch isnt even out yet.

Live OR Die · 01-28-2008, 10:44 AM

Not a bad card looks like it likes DX9 better though

eidairaman1 · 01-28-2008, 10:45 AM

ya that performance patch sounds like what Microsoft Promises with Service Pack 3 for XP
(a performance boost)

Mussels · 01-28-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

ya that performance patch sounds like what Microsoft Promises with Service Pack 3 for XP
(a performance boost)

hey i'm quite optimistic about XP3's service pack

01-25-2008, 10:57 AM	#1
W1zzard Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 7,609 (3.77/day) Thanks: 79 Thanked 2,485 Times in 931 Posts System Specs	HIS Radeon HD 3870 X2 1 GB To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_3870_X2/ Please Digg the review to help us promote it. Last edited by W1zzard; 01-29-2008 at 01:20 PM.

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01-28-2008, 06:38 AM	#3
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01-28-2008, 06:32 AM	#2
eidairaman1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stationed in Florida, Home is Houston, Texas Posts: 4,146 (4.75/day) Thanks: 225 Thanked 308 Times in 280 Posts System Specs	pretty nice review, costs way less than the Single GPUs at that, plus performs higher than the other boards, Crysis and Supreme Commander are washout games anyway.

01-28-2008, 06:42 AM	#4
eidairaman1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stationed in Florida, Home is Houston, Texas Posts: 4,146 (4.75/day) Thanks: 225 Thanked 308 Times in 280 Posts System Specs	you mean these 2 reviews? http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...3870-x2-review http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...70X2-1-GB.html

01-28-2008, 06:48 AM	#5
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01-28-2008, 06:52 AM	#7
sneekypeet Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,128 (6.92/day) Thanks: 799 Thanked 1,832 Times in 1,676 Posts System Specs	I dont think so DM look at my thread and look at the naked pic of W1zzards. The spacing of the holes is farther from the core on mine than his....mine will obviously use the maze4. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=46287 MINE^^^^^ http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...ages/front.jpg X2^^^^ __________________ Hers: DFI BLOOD IRON / E8600 / Xig Dark Knight / 4X2GB GSkill Pi Blacks 4-4-4-12 / EVGA GTX 285 @ FTW clocks /OCZ GXS 700W / Vista Ultimate 64 / CoolerMaster HAF 922

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01-28-2008, 07:25 AM	#10
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01-28-2008, 08:01 AM	#12
eidairaman1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stationed in Florida, Home is Houston, Texas Posts: 4,146 (4.75/day) Thanks: 225 Thanked 308 Times in 280 Posts System Specs	ya i guess a 5/10 is average.

01-28-2008, 08:34 AM	#13
DrunkenMafia Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairns QLD, Aussie Posts: 1,444 (1.38/day) Thanks: 69 Thanked 113 Times in 108 Posts System Specs	great review, its a shame it sux in crysis though as that is the game a lot of people compare to these days, I love the power of it in almost all of the other games / Bench apps though.. I hope that ATI can make the drivers for this card really work. Their other twin gpu cards have not been all that great so it would be nice to see this thing really rock out... And 2 of em in crossfire!!!!! now that is what I wanna see. As always your reviews are by far the best on the net imo.... BTW W1zz, what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good. __________________

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01-28-2008, 08:54 AM	#15
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Mussels Outdated Meme Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 17,874 (9.55/day) Thanks: 889 Thanked 2,873 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	finally a review of the x2 from someone i can trust! __________________ AMD tech support - see how bad it really is 5 port E-sata cage. 4x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 7 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information 48x0 card support Getting DXVA working in windows 7!

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01-28-2008, 10:13 AM	#19
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01-28-2008, 10:17 AM	#20
Mussels Outdated Meme Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 17,874 (9.55/day) Thanks: 889 Thanked 2,873 Times in 2,493 Posts System Specs	he makes a good point: wizzard, would you be willing to re-test with a faster, or overclocked CPU? preferably around 3GHz? (thats about the highest stock core 2 in the average consumers price range) Even if you just choose 2-3 benchmarks and do tests at 3GHz and say, 3.4 or 3.6Ghz that would really be appreciated. __________________ AMD tech support - see how bad it really is 5 port E-sata cage. 4x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 7 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information 48x0 card support Getting DXVA working in windows 7!

01-28-2008, 10:44 AM	#23
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01-28-2008, 10:45 AM	#24
eidairaman1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stationed in Florida, Home is Houston, Texas Posts: 4,146 (4.75/day) Thanks: 225 Thanked 308 Times in 280 Posts System Specs	ya that performance patch sounds like what Microsoft Promises with Service Pack 3 for XP (a performance boost)

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