HIS Radeon HD 3870 X2 1 GB - Page 4

Hawk1 · 01-28-2008, 06:34 PM

Nice find.

wtf8269 · 01-28-2008, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Lets just hope you get a QX9650 running at 4.5gig+ to realise the full potential!!

Me too. I'm hoping they'll be out in time for me to finish my system. If not I may just resort to an e8400.

Urbklr · 01-28-2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trog100

yes it does seem to be a gain.. but u wont see the same in the gpu bench..

That was the GPU bench

MrW · 01-28-2008, 06:45 PM

Excellent review. Very detailed. Hope there is a follow-up after drivers have matured.

Judas · 01-28-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Yup......thats £300, we get over $2 to the single £ these days

whick makes this price even more insulting over here as the global prices are set in US $, take a look here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=416

Over here i found the Asus Radeon HD 3870 X2 and you can pick one up for a cool 499.90 € = 372.565 £

W1zzard · 01-28-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TUngsten

that's just plain wrong!!!

its true. the sapphire card i had for review had to go back.

MrW · 01-28-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

The air that gets to the second core can be considered as exhuast. Thats the reason why one runs warmer, its not because of how the drivers are written.

I never thought of that. Makes perfect sense.

W1zzard · 01-28-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

why the second core runs warmer is due to the hot air from the first core. The air that gets to the second core can be considered as exhuast. Thats the reason why one runs warmer, its not because of how the drivers are written.

what information is this based on?

newtekie1 · 01-28-2008, 07:31 PM

Am I seeing that picture correctly? Is one of the heatsinks made of Aluminum, and the other Copper?

Either way, the second core is going to run warmer than the first because it is being cooled by warmer air.

Steevo · 01-28-2008, 07:33 PM

Not if the first core isn't recieving the same cooling potential the second is.

newtekie1 · 01-28-2008, 07:42 PM

That true.

candle_86 · 01-28-2008, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Rice review but 8/10

Also the card being PCI-E 1.1 is a revelation. But didn't some rumored articles on TomsHardware predict massive differences between using this on PCI-E 1.1 and 2.0 slots? I could have put up the link but Tomshardware removed the article.

Finally, the fastest video-card is an ATI. After say a huge time gap? But for how long?

Untill the 21st of febuary.

[I.R.A]_FBi · 01-28-2008, 07:51 PM

nvidia deladey [rofl] i guess theyre throwing there resources to combat the new r700

candle_86 · 01-28-2008, 07:52 PM

well the leaked G100 specs look like it should anyway.

384 shaders, GDDR4 2400mhz, 512bit bus 1024mb.

[I.R.A]_FBi · 01-28-2008, 07:53 PM

finally nvidia goes ddr4 ...

Lazzer408 · 01-28-2008, 08:14 PM

Crossfire needs a fast cpu to show the best improvement over a single card. It's already known that games demand both a fast gpu and cpu. Crysis on a 3ghz quad sort of eliminated the cpu bottleneck so going to 3.4 on that same quad will show little improvement. The e6550 used in the test setup is most definitly effecting framerates and even more so with crossfire.

Lazzer408 · 01-28-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

what information is this based on?

Physics.

Lazzer408 · 01-28-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbklr911

Crysis- CPU 3.44GHz Card stock- 32FPS Average, Min 18, Max 38
Card 830/900- 34FPS Average, Min 23, Max 41
3.4GHz Card 830/900- 29FPS Average, Min 20, Max 34

That looks like a pretty decent boost, 34FPS vs 29FPS....

Ah here we go. How did I miss this post.

Urbklr if you dont mind, can you run the benchmark at stock clocks vs. 3.44?

Thanks.

Hawk1 · 01-28-2008, 09:19 PM

Heres another waterblock for it.

InnocentCriminal · 01-28-2008, 09:20 PM

I take it the 7.11 drivers came with the card?

W1zzard · 01-28-2008, 09:22 PM

added fan noise measurements - page 22 - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...870_X2/22.html

W1zzard · 01-28-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

I take it the 7.11 drivers came with the card?

We used 8.1 v8.451.2, the driver recommended by AMD. I asked "what driver do I use for my review" and got a link to the driver I used in return.

Hawk1 · 01-28-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

added fan noise measurements - page 22 - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...870_X2/22.html

Doesn't surprise me. ATI have always (well the last few years at least) had high db fans on their top end cards. How come no NV FX5500 noise comparison (just so I feel a little better

)

InnocentCriminal · 01-28-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

We used 8.1 v8.451.2, the driver recommended by AMD. I asked "what driver do I use for my review" and got a link to the driver I used in return.

So why is the 7.11 listed in the review?

erocker · 01-28-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Am I seeing that picture correctly? Is one of the heatsinks made of Aluminum, and the other Copper? Either way, the second core is going to run warmer than the first because it is being cooled by warmer air.

The second core actually runs cooler since it isn't a utilized as much as the first. Plus having a copper sink in #2 helps as well. Judging by the best drivers ATi has ever made for crossfire, I doubt they will ever get this card to fully utilize the 2nd core, and they are by far the best at doing it.

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01-28-2008, 07:33 PM	#85
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01-28-2008, 07:52 PM	#89
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01-28-2008, 09:20 PM	#95
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01-28-2008, 09:22 PM	#96
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