HIS Radeon HD 3870 X2 1 GB - Page 8

Dr. Spankenstein · 02-12-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xvi

I hope this isn't against forum rules, but ExtremeTech has a review that pits this card against a pair of crossfire 3870s. It looks like it might not be as efficient as two 3870s, only wining because of the increase in core clock.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2252547,00.asp

Actually it would make the X2 look less appealing if they would get their Crossfire working correctly!

Someone needs to link some of these "reviewers" to my "How-to". Then everyone will stop poo-pooing Crossfire.

eidairaman1 · 02-12-2008, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wile E

It beats the GTX in almost all the high-res tests. The fact that it has 2 gpus doesn't matter, it's the price compared to the GTX that matters, and the X2 is cheaper than the GTX.

Cheaper than the Ultra for that matter

Mussels · 02-12-2008, 08:44 AM

price and drivers are the two keys. and the drivers seem to be improving at a steady rate.

Whilhelm · 02-12-2008, 04:16 PM

Wow there must be something with my 3D Mark 03 because I cannot come close to 56000 marks. It seems that my card runs that benchmark as if I only have one 3870 installed becasue I score around 36000. Everything else seems to work with the card just fine though. Any thoughts as to why I am having this odd problem.

Tatty_One · 02-12-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Whilhelm

Wow there must be something with my 3D Mark 03 because I cannot come close to 56000 marks. It seems that my card runs that benchmark as if I only have one 3870 installed becasue I score around 36000. Everything else seems to work with the card just fine though. Any thoughts as to why I am having this odd problem.

Is there not a multi GPU patch for 3D Mark 2003? have you installed it if there is otherwise the bench will not be optimised for more than one GPU.

If you have not got it already, you can get the latest patch here.....see if that helps:

http://www.futuremark.com/download/3dmark03patch360/

beastgreeley · 02-12-2008, 11:08 PM

Will your ATI Tool work for the HD 3870 x2 W1zzard?

Mussels · 02-13-2008, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beastgreeley

Will your ATI Tool work for the HD 3870 x2 W1zzard?

try asking in the ATI tool section of the forum

Blacklash · 02-13-2008, 08:14 AM

Hanners @ EB didn't have a very good experience with the card either-

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/ind...=531&Itemid=27

Mussels · 02-13-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacklash

Hanners @ EB didn't have a very good experience with the card either-

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/ind...=531&Itemid=27

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanners

with some game titles offering little or no performance gains over a single Radeon HD 3870, and others (notably Need For Speed: Pro Street) exhibiting performance losses with CrossFire enabled.

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Originally Posted by hanners again

Firstly, it initially refused to post at all on our Striker II, nForce 780i-based platform, although thankfully ASUS were extremely fast in getting a motherboard BIOS update out to us which resolved the issue. We then moved on to our Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5 motherboard, which even more bizarrely refused to detect or allow us to boot from IDE optical drives, although they were fine within Windows Vista itself - naturally, this gave us some OS installation headaches which required changing the graphics board until Vista was fully installed from the DVD drive.

^ those two are the most concering from the review, for those who dont/cant click the link

Kirby123 · 05-30-2008, 09:58 AM

i like my card

i have the his had 3870 X2

blackberryf1 · 06-01-2008, 07:17 AM

hello! first post here I do not know much (almost nothing about cards) and I have two questions.... first, do you think the Collin McRae DiRT game can be played with this card? and second for other applications different from games, do you think this card will be good enough? I mean to render complex animations from programs like Cinema 4D, 3DS Max, etc. etc.

thanks a lot!
bye!

Kirby123 · 06-01-2008, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackberryf1

hello! first post here I do not know much (almost nothing about cards) and I have two questions.... first, do you think the Collin McRae DiRT game can be played with this card? and second for other applications different from games, do you think this card will be good enough? I mean to render complex animations from programs like Cinema 4D, 3DS Max, etc. etc.

thanks a lot!
bye!

i play crysis perfectly fine with everything maxed out with my X2... 35-103 fps and the demo grip i only get around 77 average fps...

hayder.master · 06-01-2008, 07:57 AM

good work my friend so can you give me compare it with 9800gx2

Kirby123 · 06-06-2008, 11:53 PM

i use to own a 9800 GX2, didnt like it costly for the performance.... the super clock version -.- i changed it out for a oc version of the HIS hd 3870 X2 my fps jumped around 18 on crysis

Wile E · 06-07-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby123

i play crysis perfectly fine with everything maxed out with my X2... 35-103 fps and the demo grip i only get around 77 average fps...

At what resolution?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby123

i use to own a 9800 GX2, didnt like it costly for the performance.... the super clock version -.- i changed it out for a oc version of the HIS hd 3870 X2 my fps jumped around 18 on crysis

If that's the case, there was a problem with your system when you had the GX2. First, Crysis doesn't scale properly with Crossfire, so the second ATI gpu on the 3870X2 adds very little performance, if any at all.

Second, the Gx2 is hands down the faster card. There is absolutely no disputing it.

Kirby123 · 06-07-2008, 12:10 PM

compairing the HIS superclock to the 9800gx2 ultra clock at the coolmaster event both max gpus on both cards max clocked the his superclock had better performance in everything from 2 fps to 30 fps depending on what they were running. crysis they were almost the same. seeing is believeing in my book so idk what to say :/

eidairaman1 · 06-07-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

At what resolution?If that's the case, there was a problem with your system when you had the GX2. First, Crysis doesn't scale properly with Crossfire, so the second ATI gpu on the 3870X2 adds very little performance, if any at all.

Second, the Gx2 is hands down the faster card. There is absolutely no disputing it.

Crysis has a problem with DUAL Cards beyond 1900x****. TBH if its 1 game that has the problem, but everything else runs fine with it, im not going to blame the technology used for the hardware.

Wile E · 06-07-2008, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Crysis has a problem with DUAL Cards beyond 1900x****. TBH if its 1 game that has the problem, but everything else runs fine with it, im not going to blame the technology used for the hardware.

I wasn't blaming anything. I was just pointing out that he obviously had a problem with his 9800GX2 setup if Crysis plays better on the 3870X2. Crysis doesn't scale well with any multi gpu setups, but it does scale better with nVidia.

Kirby123 · 06-07-2008, 09:58 PM

i get lower fps with everything with that 9800 gx2... i bought it just testing it out and i didnt like it so i trade it in for another 3870 x2... i know it wasnt the layout cuz i have mobos laying around my house enought to build a few computers... seems like a big waist but i admit when i oc it i can go higher with invidia before volt moding it. but with both volt mod there about equal... i have his superclocks and just running one of them outdoes the ultra superclock of the gx2 9800 series.... im not sure what was going on i got a mobo recomended for it and i didnt like the fact that i lost 18 fps to just one of the his superclocked.... a bug in the hardware on invidias part? replacing it with another didnt help though.... mobo replacement to the same kind it ran the same.... well im just going to stick with the he 3870 X2 i run everything perfectly maxed out

Wile E · 06-07-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby123

i get lower fps with everything with that 9800 gx2... i bought it just testing it out and i didnt like it so i trade it in for another 3870 x2... i know it wasnt the layout cuz i have mobos laying around my house enought to build a few computers... seems like a big waist but i admit when i oc it i can go higher with invidia before volt moding it. but with both volt mod there about equal... i have his superclocks and just running one of them outdoes the ultra superclock of the gx2 9800 series.... im not sure what was going on i got a mobo recomended for it and i didnt like the fact that i lost 18 fps to just one of the his superclocked.... a bug in the hardware on invidias part? replacing it with another didnt help though.... mobo replacement to the same kind it ran the same.... well im just going to stick with the he 3870 X2 i run everything perfectly maxed out

Could've been anything. Hardware conflict, bugged driver, etc., etc.

If the 3870X2 works better for you, then so be it. I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying there was definitely a problem with the GX2 setup, as it should've been faster in everything, period.

Kirby123 · 06-08-2008, 07:16 AM

well im just saying from seeing it with my own eyes crossfireX did better thatn sli 9800GX2 superclock on the ocing spree (crossfireX gpu1 953/1154 gpu2 944/1103) (sli 850/1250 both cores both gpu)

Wile E · 06-08-2008, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby123

well im just saying from seeing it with my own eyes crossfireX did better thatn sli 9800GX2 superclock on the ocing spree (crossfireX gpu1 953/1154 gpu2 944/1103) (sli 850/1250 both cores both gpu)

I believe you. I'm just saying that there was something wrong with your nvidia setup.

Kirby123 · 06-08-2008, 07:51 AM

possibly what? i would like to build another computer to compair my his superclock the the 9800gx2 superclock and load up pictures

hayder.master · 06-08-2008, 08:05 AM

ok that will be good

Kirby123 · 06-08-2008, 08:14 AM

what?

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02-12-2008, 08:44 AM	#178
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02-12-2008, 04:16 PM	#179
Whilhelm Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Barrie, Canada. Posts: 557 (0.45/day) Thanks: 125 Thanked 115 Times in 97 Posts System Specs	Wow there must be something with my 3D Mark 03 because I cannot come close to 56000 marks. It seems that my card runs that benchmark as if I only have one 3870 installed becasue I score around 36000. Everything else seems to work with the card just fine though. Any thoughts as to why I am having this odd problem.

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02-12-2008, 11:08 PM	#181
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02-13-2008, 08:14 AM	#183
Blacklash Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 130 (0.13/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts System Specs	Hanners @ EB didn't have a very good experience with the card either- http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/ind...=531&Itemid=27

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05-30-2008, 09:58 AM	#185
Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	i like my card i have the his had 3870 X2

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06-01-2008, 07:17 AM	#186
blackberryf1 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bogota Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello! first post here I do not know much (almost nothing about cards) and I have two questions.... first, do you think the Collin McRae DiRT game can be played with this card? and second for other applications different from games, do you think this card will be good enough? I mean to render complex animations from programs like Cinema 4D, 3DS Max, etc. etc. thanks a lot! bye!

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06-01-2008, 07:57 AM	#188
hayder.master Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: iraq Posts: 3,215 (5.53/day) Thanks: 176 Thanked 269 Times in 210 Posts System Specs	good work my friend so can you give me compare it with 9800gx2

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06-06-2008, 11:53 PM	#189
Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	i use to own a 9800 GX2, didnt like it costly for the performance.... the super clock version -.- i changed it out for a oc version of the HIS hd 3870 X2 my fps jumped around 18 on crysis

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06-07-2008, 12:10 PM	#191
Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	compairing the HIS superclock to the 9800gx2 ultra clock at the coolmaster event both max gpus on both cards max clocked the his superclock had better performance in everything from 2 fps to 30 fps depending on what they were running. crysis they were almost the same. seeing is believeing in my book so idk what to say :/

06-07-2008, 09:58 PM	#194
Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	i get lower fps with everything with that 9800 gx2... i bought it just testing it out and i didnt like it so i trade it in for another 3870 x2... i know it wasnt the layout cuz i have mobos laying around my house enought to build a few computers... seems like a big waist but i admit when i oc it i can go higher with invidia before volt moding it. but with both volt mod there about equal... i have his superclocks and just running one of them outdoes the ultra superclock of the gx2 9800 series.... im not sure what was going on i got a mobo recomended for it and i didnt like the fact that i lost 18 fps to just one of the his superclocked.... a bug in the hardware on invidias part? replacing it with another didnt help though.... mobo replacement to the same kind it ran the same.... well im just going to stick with the he 3870 X2 i run everything perfectly maxed out

06-08-2008, 07:16 AM	#196
Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	well im just saying from seeing it with my own eyes crossfireX did better thatn sli 9800GX2 superclock on the ocing spree (crossfireX gpu1 953/1154 gpu2 944/1103) (sli 850/1250 both cores both gpu)

06-08-2008, 07:51 AM	#198
Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	possibly what? i would like to build another computer to compair my his superclock the the 9800gx2 superclock and load up pictures

06-08-2008, 08:05 AM	#199
hayder.master Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: iraq Posts: 3,215 (5.53/day) Thanks: 176 Thanked 269 Times in 210 Posts System Specs	ok that will be good

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Kirby123 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 155 (0.27/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	what?

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