Sapphire HD 3870 Toxic 512 MB

W1zzard · 02-28-2008, 02:19 PM

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newtekie1 · 03-13-2008, 12:17 AM

Wow, Sapphire really missed the target with this card. Slower than a 9600GT, costs more, and worse overclocking.

And I never thought we would see a card that was louder than the x1800GTO. Was the "Atomic" edition just as loud? I would think sacrificing 10C to get a quieter card would be preferable.

DrunkenMafia · 03-13-2008, 01:08 AM

Jeez.... A stock HD3870 actually beats this card in a lot of the game tests, only by 1-2 fps but still. what were they thinking with this one, the card is clocked higher and should perform a lot better...

Oh well.

Great review W1zz, but I think a lot of your graphs are being cpu limited. Especially at the lower res'. I know you want to keep everything the same for all the cards, and you obviously cannot go back and bench all those cards again but a lot of them are becoming pointless at 1024 & 1280. from about half way down the graph all the cards are pretty much the same. the higher res' are still showing the cards capability though.

You are going to have to upgrade your cpu soon though..

Surely you can scam a free one from somewhere....

HousERaT · 03-13-2008, 08:21 PM

I'm very disappointed with the overclocking. I'd figure these would have been the cherry cores, easily getting up around 900Mhz on stock cooling. They'll have to drop the price more on these before they sell.

WarEagleAU · 03-13-2008, 10:19 PM

actually Im not disappointed with the overclocking at all, its pretty much near its maximum already and then you can till oc it between 8 & 9 % as W1zzard has said. Im not a fan of Sapphire Toxic cards and the price isnt really worth it.

Nice review as always W1zz.

Easy Rhino · 03-13-2008, 10:37 PM

well the card is name 'toxic' for a reason i guess!

eidairaman1 · 03-14-2008, 02:20 AM

easy solution, if you dont like the stock cooling of most 3870 cards, grab a cooler from a third party and use it.

02-28-2008, 02:19 PM	#1
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03-13-2008, 01:08 AM	#3
DrunkenMafia Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairns QLD, Aussie Posts: 1,444 (1.38/day) Thanks: 69 Thanked 113 Times in 108 Posts System Specs	Jeez.... A stock HD3870 actually beats this card in a lot of the game tests, only by 1-2 fps but still. what were they thinking with this one, the card is clocked higher and should perform a lot better... Oh well. Great review W1zz, but I think a lot of your graphs are being cpu limited. Especially at the lower res'. I know you want to keep everything the same for all the cards, and you obviously cannot go back and bench all those cards again but a lot of them are becoming pointless at 1024 & 1280. from about half way down the graph all the cards are pretty much the same. the higher res' are still showing the cards capability though. You are going to have to upgrade your cpu soon though.. Surely you can scam a free one from somewhere.... __________________

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WarEagleAU Bird of Prey Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gurley, AL Posts: 8,917 (7.25/day) Thanks: 2,212 Thanked 490 Times in 458 Posts System Specs	actually Im not disappointed with the overclocking at all, its pretty much near its maximum already and then you can till oc it between 8 & 9 % as W1zzard has said. Im not a fan of Sapphire Toxic cards and the price isnt really worth it. Nice review as always W1zz. __________________ =-TheEagle-= Heatware: WarEagleAU 9-0 and growing. “You crazy? Surfing any website without an antivirus is like fucking a hooker without a condom” -OzzmanFloyd120

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