Overclocking Phenom 9850 BE with Asus M3N-HT deluxe mb.

fullinfusion · Jul 12, 2008

go and do what I've mentioned and then check your core temps... betcha ya run way cooler if you followed what I've said... good luck and remember....with thermal grease... thiner is better

jkatt12 · Jul 12, 2008

wow, thread is alive again! well cant wait to get my cards but im having to actually sell one of them, gf is pissed but its good now. she gotz lotz of $$. was wanting to run sli but will have to upgrade my psu as well. grrrrrrrrrrr. compulsive buyer. anywayz, will bench and post the results when i get em! cant really tell which is faster 9800gx2 ssc or the gtx 280 ftw by reading all the reviews so far.
still think its my psu thats holding me back from a cpu oc to 3ghz.

trik81 · Jul 12, 2008

fullinfusion said:
go and do what I've mentioned and then check your core temps... betcha ya run way cooler if you followed what I've said... good luck and remember....with thermal grease... thiner is better

I redid the arctic 5, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference in the core temp. Do I need to wait the 200 hours before I see a decent decrease in temp? I'd be happy with a 2-3C drop, which would put me at 60C under full load.

Core Temp shows me running at around 44C when IDLE! I don't really understand why the temp is so high. I suppose I can try and drop the voltage a bit. Raising the multiplier doesn't create a lot of heat, does it?

trik81 · Jul 12, 2008

fullinfusion said:
use rubbing alcohol if you have with a lint free rag...or carb cleaner if you have... other wise just use what ya got and just try to clean it rite up... one thing about the 1066 memory... try dropping it to 800mhz and set the timings down to 4.4.4.10.14
or see if you can go 4.4.3.12.15
i also have 1066mhz ram and trying to o/c sucks using the 1066 setting... besides you'll be way faster at 800mhz with low timings...
one thing about thermal grease is to much defeats the purpose... all your trying to do is fill in all the microscopic pores on the mating surface.... like i said just apply a size of a BB to the center of the cpu and after attaching the cooler just give it a twist back n forth a few times and your good to go...
what i normally do is coat the cooler and cpu with the silver and use a plastic bag with my finger in it and smear the grease around and then without any solvent just use a rag and wipe all the grease off then i apply the BB sized amount to the cou and clamp the cooler down... this way your filling all the tiny holes on the mating surfaces .... works the best dude...

When I change the memory timings, the system does run noticably faster. However, every once in a while I get a background program that Vista tells me has just stopped running. I don't ever get that with the memory at 1066 5.5.5.15. I think I'll play with it a bit more. I get programs dropping all over the place with 4.4.3.12.15, but I may be able to get it to run with the 4.4.4.10.14

trik81 · Jul 12, 2008

A little update. With the 800 4.4.4.10.14 memory timings, I was able to drop the vcore a step and reduce idle temp to about 42C and full load temp peaking at 57C, but typically running around 55C.

These temps are considerably better than the previous 62C peak at load. I think the memory timings may have been limiting my OCing potential. Thank you VERY much for the advice.

Edit: Ran OCCT to get the readings for 1 hour. It reports system as stable.

jkatt12 · Jul 13, 2008

trik, can you get cpuz and post screenshots, curious what speed you are running at.

http://www.cpuid.com/

fullinfusion · Jul 13, 2008

trik81 said:
I redid the arctic 5, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference in the core temp. Do I need to wait the 200 hours before I see a decent decrease in temp? I'd be happy with a 2-3C drop, which would put me at 60C under full load.

Core Temp shows me running at around 44C when IDLE! I don't really understand why the temp is so high. I suppose I can try and drop the voltage a bit. Raising the multiplier doesn't create a lot of heat, does it?

try to drop the cpu multi and raise the bus speed... that way the cpu is a tad relaxed and gives the memory a bump in speed... and yeah i had to wait around the 200hrs but one more thing is to cycle the pc... when its hot and you shut it off it helps the curing... so when your not using it just power down...

fullinfusion · Jul 13, 2008

trik81 said:
A little update. With the 800 4.4.4.10.14 memory timings, I was able to drop the vcore a step and reduce idle temp to about 42C and full load temp peaking at 57C, but typically running around 55C.

These temps are considerably better than the previous 62C peak at load. I think the memory timings may have been limiting my OCing potential. Thank you VERY much for the advice.

Edit: Ran OCCT to get the readings for 1 hour. It reports system as stable.

glad to hear its working better for ya now.. :toast:

Frostywite · Jul 13, 2008

Ooct Possible Issue Help

New build help, this has been a frustrating build. Ill get straight to it. MSN-HT Deluxe with 9850 BE. 4 gig Corsair 8500 ram specs set to manual at 5 5 5 15 2T and 2.1v, the rest is auto. Chip is set manually to 12.5 multiplier and 200 bus with volt at 1.31 Bois is 1009. Running cool master 212. No video card at the moment, want to work the bugs out. Antic 500w PSU. The computer has randomly crashed about 4 times. Mostly after leaving it on all night at idle, has happened while loading into windows once. After crash comp will not boot, power turns on, no video. After disconnecting the power cord, the computer boots fine. I have been using mem test and occt to try and diagnose the problem. Mem test passed but I can’t pass occt, best I have got was 20 min. Each time, error code 1 comes up. If I try and mess with over clocking, I fail occt even sooner. Cpu temp has been great at 37 deg idle and load at 52. Any ideas? I’m running short on time for the great Fry’s return policy!

jkatt12 · Jul 14, 2008

frosty,

i havnt ran into your particular problem (not using hybrid/onboard video) so im not sure,
is your onboard video enabled in the bios? try setting your memory settings to ddr2 800 and see if that gets you stable, lower your mem volts to 1.8 - 1.9. (just suggestions) i got rid of my ddr2 1066 (geil and g.skill, tried both) because i wasnt able to overclock with them as well as with my g.skill ddr2 800. if you do get a vid. card then definitely upgrade your psu as well.
im completely stable with bios 901 right now, running overclock @ 2.750 35C cpu multi @ 12.5 - fsb/ht - 220, 1.30v.

trik81 · Jul 14, 2008

jkatt12 said:
trik, can you get cpuz and post screenshots, curious what speed you are running at.

http://www.cpuid.com/

I'll get you a screenshot as soon as I can. As I was taking the screenshot, my new comp just turned off. I went to turn it back on and the PSU "popped". Turns out it was a defective power supply. So now I have to wait until I get it replaced before I can boot it back up. :/

The memory timings I used are 4.4.4.10.14 at 800. The voltage was one step up above what it came at for me. Bus speed is 200 and the multiplier is 15.5x.

Frostywite · Jul 15, 2008

jkatt12 said:
frosty,

i havnt ran into your particular problem (not using hybrid/onboard video) so im not sure,
is your onboard video enabled in the bios? try setting your memory settings to ddr2 800 and see if that gets you stable, lower your mem volts to 1.8 - 1.9. (just suggestions) i got rid of my ddr2 1066 (geil and g.skill, tried both) because i wasnt able to overclock with them as well as with my g.skill ddr2 800. if you do get a vid. card then definitely upgrade your psu as well.
im completely stable with bios 901 right now, running overclock @ 2.750 35C cpu multi @ 12.5 - fsb/ht - 220, 1.30v.

just passed my first occt! running at 2.835 13.5x fsb at 210. set the ram down to 800 mhz with 4 4 4 12 2t and left the voltage at 2.10. let everst run for 5 hours and passed occt for 1 hr no more errors. now just need a video card to post some real numbers. thanks for the advice. also after changing the ram settings, i did run the everst test with a before and after, very slight difference. ram speed now is showing 420 mhz vs 537 mhz set at 1066. all take the slight decrease in ram speed over stability any day.

jkatt12 · Jul 17, 2008

my babies are both up on ebay for sale!! 2 evga gtx 280 FTW edition!!

laugh at me please! lol

jkatt12 · Jul 18, 2008

just bought a new xfx gtx 280 xxx edition, card seems faster than my evga 9800gx2 ssc! frame rates really good in crysis.

jkatt12 · Jul 20, 2008

stable @ 2.966
cpu multi - 13x
fsb - 228
cpu volts - 1.56v !!!

jkatt12 · Aug 1, 2008

upgraded to a 9950 and sooooo happy, this thing can overclock with low voltages and cool temps!! very nice!

jkatt12 · Aug 4, 2008

had to up the volts but am able to get 3.3ghz.

Maxamp00 · Aug 16, 2008

First OC on 9950

Hey guys, I just got my 9950 and new mobo (in my sig) I have it running at 3.15 with only on prob, in task manager and cpu-z it is only showing 2 cores??? I tried a couple things to no avail. Any Ideas??

jkatt12 · Aug 17, 2008

in bios:
advanced
cpu configuration
processor downcore - select disabled, im pretty sure yours will say 2 core right now.

Maxamp00 · Aug 17, 2008

jkatt12 said:
in bios:
advanced
cpu configuration
processor downcore - select disabled, im pretty sure yours will say 2 core right now.

Yea I checked that it is disabled, the only thing I can think of is mabyee it is a windows issue?? I upgraded from a 6400+ bb and a m2n-32 sli deluxe without reloading windows. Mabyee the ACPI is still looking for 2 cores??

Maxamp00 · Aug 17, 2008

I also downloaded a gadget for vista that reads cpu usage and mem usage it is only showing 2 cores. I turned off downgrading have the latest bios for my board, the only thing I didn't do is reload vista.

jkatt12 · Aug 17, 2008

could be, do you have the new bios installed which is version 1003??

Maxamp00 · Aug 17, 2008

yup im running 1003 Mabyee a windows repair since I started with the 6400+ BB?? Btw Nice new rig fullinfusion!! I got started on techpowerup on a thread Fullinfusion started on overclocking the 6400+ BB.

jkatt12 · Aug 17, 2008

i did the same, i went from a phenom 9500/6400BE m2n32-sli deluxe w/out re-installing windows to a 9850 and then a 9950 with the m3n-ht deluxe. had a lot of issues, seems like you dont have a lot installed yet so try it.

Maxamp00 · Aug 18, 2008

what else do need to install????

System Name	PreenGoop
Processor	amd phenom II 955 x4
Motherboard	asus m3n-ht deluxe
Cooling	CoolIT Freezone cpu cooler
Memory	corsair dominator xms ddr2 1066 8gb
Video Card(s)	xfx gtx 280 xxx edition
Storage	2x - sata/300 320gb and 750gb
Display(s)	samsung 204b 21" lcd
Audio Device(s)	onboard
Power Supply	pc power & cooling silencer 750 quad (crossfire edition)
Software	windows vista x64 ultimate sp1

Processor	AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz
Motherboard	ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE/MEMPIPE
Cooling	ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm
Memory	CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
Video Card(s)	EVGA GeForce GTX 280
Storage	Seagate Barracuda ES.2 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Case	Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan
Power Supply	ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ900 900W
Software	Windows Vista 64

Processor	AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz
Motherboard	ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE/MEMPIPE
Cooling	ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm
Memory	CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
Video Card(s)	EVGA GeForce GTX 280
Storage	Seagate Barracuda ES.2 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Case	Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan
Power Supply	ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ900 900W
Software	Windows Vista 64

Processor	AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz
Motherboard	ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE/MEMPIPE
Cooling	ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm
Memory	CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 1066
Video Card(s)	EVGA GeForce GTX 280
Storage	Seagate Barracuda ES.2 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Case	Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan
Power Supply	ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ900 900W
Software	Windows Vista 64

System Name	PreenGoop
Processor	amd phenom II 955 x4
Motherboard	asus m3n-ht deluxe
Cooling	CoolIT Freezone cpu cooler
Memory	corsair dominator xms ddr2 1066 8gb
Video Card(s)	xfx gtx 280 xxx edition
Storage	2x - sata/300 320gb and 750gb
Display(s)	samsung 204b 21" lcd
Audio Device(s)	onboard
Power Supply	pc power & cooling silencer 750 quad (crossfire edition)
Software	windows vista x64 ultimate sp1

System Name	Second Build
Processor	Phenom 9950 BB Oc'd to 3.15
Motherboard	Asus M3N-HT Deluxe
Cooling	Rosewill RCX-Z3 92mm Ball CPU Cooler
Memory	4 Gigs Mushkin Extreme DDR2 800 (4,4,4,12)
Video Card(s)	Dual Palit 8800gt Super +1g
Display(s)	Chimei 22 inch Wide and acer 20 inch wide
Power Supply	XION Supernova XON-600F14R-201 ATX12V 600W
Benchmark Scores	3dmark Vantage P11935

Overclocking Phenom 9850 BE with Asus M3N-HT deluxe mb.

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