RealTemp General Discussion

toohot · Mar 22, 2010

I have kaspersky internet security 2010 and realtemp is in trusted zone.I just cannot figure it out.
Thanks.Toohot

unclewebb · Mar 22, 2010

You're not the first person to have trouble with RealTemp while using Kaspersky. RealTemp might be in the trusted zone but RealTemp calls the WinRing0 library and I think Kaspersky has blocked that before because it is potentially dangerous.

In reality, it's only dangerous if some software is using WinRing0 in a dangerous manner. WinRing0 by itself isn't dangerous.

You can try uninstalling Kaspersky to see if that is the problem. I'm not sure if it's possible to add WinRing0 to your trusted list. If not then you might have to become a Core Temp user.

SuperJoker · Mar 22, 2010

unclewebb said:
You're not the first person to have trouble with RealTemp while using Kaspersky. RealTemp might be in the trusted zone but RealTemp calls the WinRing0 library and I think Kaspersky has blocked that before because it is potentially dangerous.

In reality, it's only dangerous if some software is using WinRing0 in a dangerous manner. WinRing0 by itself isn't dangerous.

You can try uninstalling Kaspersky to see if that is the problem. I'm not sure if it's possible to add WinRing0 to your trusted list. If not then you might have to become a Core Temp user.

Well I'm glad I use Avast, As Avast doesn't have a problem with either RealTemp or WinRing0, Oh and for Malware neither does Spybot Search and Destroy as It gets along with both RealTemp and WinRing0 also.

somebody · Mar 22, 2010

toohot said:
I just cannot figure it out.
Thanks.Toohot

toohot, try this.

Run a "Command Prompt" as administrator
enter "sc delete WinRing0_1_2_0" without the quotes. If it says the deletion is pending you will have to reboot.
Run 3.58

unclewebb · Mar 22, 2010

Good idea somebody.

I use Autoruns which lets you access the 1001 things in your start up sequence so you might be able to delete WinRing0 that way as well, reboot and then hopefully RealTemp 3.58 will work.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

WinRing0 shows up in:

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services

toohot · Mar 22, 2010

Thanks for all your advice.No luck,so I will just have to wait for next version.hopefully that will be soon.version 3.56 works great.its version 3.58 thats giving me a hard time since windows 7 repair.

Mussels · Mar 23, 2010

i have no trouble here, with kaspersky.

I havent had to do this, but you might.

Make sure its trusted app, NOT exclusion - and make sure all boxes are ticked.

somebody · Mar 23, 2010

That's a pity. I would still bet on it being a WinRing0 driver configuration problem.

Have a look in the registry under "HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services" that Unclewebb posted and see if there are any WinRing0 entries.

One other thing you could try is to backup and remove the files RealTemp.exe and RealTemp.ini in the directory for 3.56 and replace them with the 2 files RealTemp.exe and RealTemp.ini from 3.58. Do not extract or use any of the other files in 3.58.

toohot · Mar 23, 2010

Thanks to Unclewebb all is now ok and working fine with a slight mod to ver 3.58.Thanking you all for your support in finding a solution to problem.Thank you uncle for ver 3.58.1

somebody · Mar 23, 2010

Good to hear it's working toohot, now I'm intrigued as to what the real problem was

Mussels · Mar 23, 2010

somebody said:
Good to hear it's working toohot, now I'm intrigued as to what the real problem was

could have just been a broken driver (thought it was installed when it wasnt) and an new/different version number installed fine in its place.

unclewebb · Mar 23, 2010

Weird problem finally solved.

Code:

	// try to open the WinRing0 dll library
	InitializeOls();
	Sleep(50);

	DWORD dDllStatus = GetDllStatus();

In theory, after you initialize the WinRing0 library, you should be able to check its status immediately to see if it opened correctly or not. On most computers, this would work fine by doing things that way but on some computers, you need to wait for 50 milliseconds after calling the initialize routine to give the library time to finish opening.

I recently deleted the Sleep(50) line trying to make thngs more efficient at startup but that caused an issue for some users like toohot. It was an easy fix to add that line back in to slow things down. I think I'll go add a few more milliseconds to that delay to be on the safe side.

Here's RealTemp 3.58.1 if anyone needs it.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rxl01

TrackerFrost · Apr 16, 2010

Howdy

After searching for awhile trying to find into on cpu temps and safe zones I found you guys.

I'm still not sure on what is safe, and spent quite awhile reading here. I have a Core i3 Clarkdale (as you'll see in the image). Running the Sensor test with Prime scared the crap out of me, since Asus's "PC Probe II" that came with all the motherboard stuff kept yelling at me that I was overheating.

I didn't get the screen capture during the 10min stress test, at 100% it was at 22 and 20 Distance. As you can see I've overclocked a bit. It seems that where Probe starts complaining (60c) is actually not that hot, and I should be fine to go quite a bit higher. Am I correct in this?

Thanks for any help/info!
Edit: Also, would love advice on what temp to set the warning at!

burebista · Apr 16, 2010

You're still fine. As long as distance to TJMax is >20 in daily use don't bother.
But indeed for that Vcore and frequency your temps are a lil' bit high. Do you have box cooling? What case and airflow? Ambient temperature is?

My advice is to buy an aftermarket cooler. Is better for OC and for silence.

TrackerFrost · Apr 16, 2010

Its pretty warm in here today...I'd guess its 70f or so in the room.

Just has stock cooling for the cpu heatsink/fan. Case came with 2 fans...120, and 140mm in a push/pull airflow. I'd like to get 2 more to put in the top of the case. The case is: at Newegg.

I do use the chip built in gpu(clarkdale) and that may account for some of the heat. When I can budget it (and justify it to the mrs.) I'd like to get a cooling system, and up it a little further to 3.5. It'll do it easily now with ok temps, but I worry about the temp while gaming (mostly wow).

burebista · Apr 16, 2010

Case is fine. 21°C is fine too but still a lil' bit high on load temps. Are you sure that all those pesky push-pins are secured in place? God I HATE that push-pin system.
If all it's OK next investment should be an aftermarket heatsink with backplate and bolt-thru mounting system.

TrackerFrost · Apr 16, 2010

I think its well secured, but I'll check again tonite.

Any favorites for a heatsink/fan?

burebista · Apr 16, 2010

TrackerFrost said:
Any favorites for a heatsink/fan?

Oh boy that's a tough one. You've opened Pandora's box

It depends on budget and on your OC goals. Eventually it depends on silence too.
You have to choose between top dogs like king of the hill Noctua NH-D14 or Prolimatech Megahalems, Thermalright TRUE rev.C/VenomousX, Zalman 10X/Flex/Quiet or very good performers like Scythe Mugen2 (pain in the a*s to mount but good performer), Cogage TRUE Spirit or very affordable HDT ones like Xigmatek Thor's Hammer, Titan Fenrir, Tuniq Extreme, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+.

As for fans for example Scythe Slipstream/Gentle Typhoon/S-Flex are good candidates price/performance/CFM/noise.

NordicDawn · Apr 21, 2010

Hello everyone,

I've got the following problem: when I startup RealTemp, Load is at 100%. Is there any way to fix that?

Specs:
i7 920 @OC

Greetings,

burebista · Apr 21, 2010

RealTemp puts 100% load on your CPU? Never heard of that until now. :confused:

NordicDawn · Apr 21, 2010

Never seen it myself either. When running the test temperatures drop though, but stay high in the standard window @100% load.

burebista · Apr 21, 2010

A screenshot from Task Manager/Process Explorer?

Mussels · Apr 21, 2010

we'll likely find something else is loading him, and not realtemp

NordicDawn · Apr 21, 2010

Mussels said:
we'll likely find something else is loading him, and not realtemp

I must be missing something...

Mussels · Apr 21, 2010

yeah, thats weird indeed

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System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

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Motherboard	ASRock B450 PRO4
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
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Video Card(s)	MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Storage	ADATA SX8200 PRO 512GB + Intel 535 Series 120GB + WD 6400AAKS
Display(s)	Benq EW2420
Case	Antec P182
Power Supply	Antec Signature 650
Software	Win 10

System Name	Rocket
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Motherboard	ASRock B450 PRO4
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
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Display(s)	Benq EW2420
Case	Antec P182
Power Supply	Antec Signature 650
Software	Win 10

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