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I wonder if mixing an ATi video card with an 8-series nVidia card for a PPU can be done WITHOUT driver conflicts. Those with both can you attempt to install, test for me and post results.

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You can use nvidia for phisix and ati for graphic in xp, vista won't allow you.
 

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You can use nvidia for phisix and ati for graphic in xp, vista won't allow you.

Mmk, have any screenies or links? I just want to make sure. I was thinking of modding one of my PCIe 1x slots to fit an 8400GS.
 

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Oh ok, thank you!!!

Anyone else?
 

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Vista only allows one video driver active at a time. Mixing both brands doesnt work.

It does under XP, so long as you play it carefully (what i did was made sure the ATI CCC wasnt set to load on boot, last time i did this the CCC loaded too fast and caused problems accessing a card that 'didnt exist')
 

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Hmmmm, so as long as 'autostart' is disabled in MSCONFIG for CCC and manually launch after boot should be no problems?
 

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it worked stable enough when i did it (long before SP3 came out)
I'd suggest doing a backup before trying it, because the other time i tried it, it hosed the OS...
 

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why bother? at best you'll likely have instability issues, I say sell the two cards and invest in one card that can handle higher settings that the one card, and who REALLY needs physics? :p
 

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why bother? at best you'll likely have instability issues, I say sell the two cards and invest in one card that can handle higher settings that the one card, and who REALLY needs physics? :p

I was actually thinking of doing this when I upgrade CPU(maybe e7300)+Video(possibly 4850) on my rig and giving hers a small facelift with an HD3870+8400GS+e1200.
 

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That is very interesting.
 

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Just trying this out...(How to post a picture)

This image is from a post @ ngohq.com

 
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Hey..I just noticed that's vista..so someone got it going.

Interesting.
 

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Interesting. and under vista too.
 

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Very cool fastmix! I don't think my 7900gt can do phyx, but I am intrigued by your success.
 

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How much is an 8600?

But then I am still runnig pci-e 1 and my mobo....when you are runnig two cards splits it x8x8 so it's probably not worth it anyway.

P.S. Yes I know..waiting for Nehlam to upgrade.


That is not my system in the pic.
 

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As I understood it, it was vista 64 bit that would only allow I video card. I read it would work on vista 32.
 

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If you open an elevated command prompt (in vista 32) and type " bcdedit.exe /set testsigning on" and reboot..it put the computer in test mode, that's probably how they did it.
It allows you to use unsigned system drivers.
 

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I was looking around a bit on the web today and found this article at Tom's Hardware.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-physx-ati,5764.html

It seems that physx can be enabled on ATI graphic cards...so no need for a Nvidia counterpart. =/

Edit: with the help of some modified drivers that is.
 

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Ah. I see. I really didn't check the date. It's just that this peaked my interest. I hope they are released. then there will be no reason to buy NVIDIA cards just because they have physx. Deep down, I hope physx fails. I don't see its potential. just one more component that needs to be in a computer that doesn't really need to be.
 
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I have an asus m2n-e board:



I like to try this ati + nv physx thing. I have a hd3870 in the x16 slot.
I have a pci-e x16 8600gt 512mb too. Can i use it in the x4 slot (the black one) ?
 

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That's an open slot, not sure if it is going to work...try.
 
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